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OfflineMixomatosis
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the homeless.. dirty bums or clever bussinessmen?
    #2129550 - 11/22/03 09:19 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

I figure you got two choices: You can get really rich and make millions of dollars or.. you can lower your standards. For example most of us would think a cardboard house was for the birds, but if you can pretend you like it, then you're in! And it's real cheap too.

In many ways a bum is a CEO in disguise. One bum gets together with another bum and the one bum shares his ketchup with the other bum who contributes mustard and you've got.. MERGER MANIA!

The bum is the master of his environment. The bum banks on humanity's unwillingness to let its lesser fellows die in the gutter. Investing in that aspect of humanity can be one of the most secure investmenst you could ever make.

So, instead of working all day, why don't you take that time to lower your standards and live on the street?


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Re: the homeless.. dirty bums or clever bussinessmen? [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #2129851 - 11/23/03 02:04 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

cause then i'd be smelly. smellier than i already am.


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Re: the homeless.. dirty bums or clever bussinessmen? [Re: TODAY]
    #2129878 - 11/23/03 02:25 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

I hate to see this sort of posting, especially in a spirituality forum :[ I was driving around the other day and had nothing to do, saw a homeless guy walking and decided to pull over and give him a ride-- He introduced himself and told me he just need to go up the block to an empty storage facility.

He told me he was a vietnam vet in the 101st airborn-- He also told me he has a son that is 26, living in California that never talks to him. He asked me if he thinks his son ever thinks about him..

He went on to say he had his own successful roofing company when he was in his thirties. I asked him what lead to this point in his life.. I could smell the alcohol on his breath, his extremely warn clothes and a torn backpack. He said he walked in on his wife of 15 years sleeping with another guy-- and he never was the same.

So when I hear comments like this it really upsets me. We all think that we are responsible for our own actions, that we are here today because of the choices we make-- I'm in college because I'm such a smart and gifted person-- But in reality, you could be this guy. You could be the guy that was forced to go to Vietnam who was ordered to take the lives of an entire family-- Imagine the look on their eyes as you blew their fucking heads off. How would you be after that?


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Re: the homeless.. dirty bums or clever bussinessmen? [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #2129881 - 11/23/03 02:32 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

:nonono:


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Re: the homeless.. dirty bums or clever bussinessmen? [Re: trendal]
    #2129900 - 11/23/03 02:45 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

Thank you for posting that f8L.

I'm also quite unimpressed with homeless bashing. People who are very close to me have been homeless in the past.


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OfflineMixomatosis
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Re: the homeless.. dirty bums or clever bussinessmen? [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #2129939 - 11/23/03 03:10 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

If I find anybody bashing homeless people I'll let him them know


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Offlineiamhimheisme
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Re: the homeless.. dirty bums or clever bussinessmen? [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #2129949 - 11/23/03 03:17 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

i dont think the point is homeless bashing, just bringing out the point that if one were so inclined they could relinquish most responsibility and, in addition to certain sacrifices, be taken care of by everyone else, 'freedom like a shopping cart.' anyways, homeless bashing isnt allright with me, but neither are people who stand on the street at ~25-30 yeras old in nice clothes begging for change claiming they were in vietnam. people that do that kinda piss me off.


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Re: the homeless.. dirty bums or clever bussinessmen? [Re: iamhimheisme]
    #2129967 - 11/23/03 03:48 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

home less people are cool. Thats why I beat them with my camrea,


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Re: the homeless.. dirty bums or clever bussinessmen? [Re: theshiftingwalls] * 1
    #2130030 - 11/23/03 05:13 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

jsut as experience goes, most homelss people make up stuff. actually a lot of people who aren't homeless make up stuff too.

alas, you never can really tell who is really the victim and who is the liar. there are so many good ones out there.


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Re: the homeless.. dirty bums or clever bussinessmen? [Re: f8L]
    #2130060 - 11/23/03 05:44 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

He told me he was a vietnam vet in the 101st airborn

Here's an eye-opening statistic for you: One quarter of the homeless are veterans.

Source: http://www.nchv.org/background.cfm


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Re: the homeless.. dirty bums or clever bussinessmen? [Re: Jellric]
    #2130176 - 11/23/03 10:00 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

i don't mean to discredit anyone, but where are their sources???


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.---senior doobie


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Re: the homeless.. dirty bums or clever bussinessmen? [Re: kaiowas]
    #2130321 - 11/23/03 12:28 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)



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Re: the homeless.. dirty bums or clever bussinessmen? [Re: Jellric]
    #2130497 - 11/23/03 02:38 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

Homeless people are oftentimes wise too. If you ever go on the run, hook up with the right homeless people and in less than a week you will have fake ID and a pocket full of foodstamps. Kinda good for such survival situations.


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Re: the homeless.. dirty bums or clever bussinessmen? [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #2130843 - 11/23/03 07:18 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

Personally I feel that most homeless people bring it on themselves. If you give a homeles person change are they gonna save it? are they gonna invest it into cleaning their clothes? are they gonna buy food with it? are they gonna do anything to better themsleves with it?

NO

They are gonna take it and buy alcohol or drugs. They are gonna take the money that you worked hard for and willingly gave up out of the kindness in your heart to get a high. THEN the taxes that are taken out of your paychecks are used so they can have foodstamps and shelter becuz they choose to use what little money they acquire begging in destructive ways.

I say fuck them. I don't work hard so some bum can get have his crack and eat too.

And whoever was talking about driving a homeless man who claims to have been in nam-that's just a CLAIM. Doesn't mean it actually happened. And if it DID happen-So he found his wife in bed with someone else. Happens everday. He could have gone to counseling. He was evendently well-off. he could have said 'see ya later bitch' and she would have gotten NOTHING cuz she committed adultry and life could have gone on. But he chose to become a drunk. He made the choice to let that happen.

I hate the fact that every two weeks I see hundreds of MY dollars, MY hard-earned HONEST MONEY go towards taxes and then I see low-life scum totally raping the system.


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Re: the homeless.. dirty bums or clever bussinessmen? [Re: StonedShroom]
    #2130848 - 11/23/03 07:21 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

Wasn't Jesus homeless?


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Re: the homeless.. dirty bums or clever bussinessmen? [Re: Jellric]
    #2130858 - 11/23/03 07:25 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

Wasn't Jesus a character in a book that we don't even know is fiction or not? :smirk:


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Re: the homeless.. dirty bums or clever bussinessmen? [Re: Jellric]
    #2130864 - 11/23/03 07:26 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

Quote:

Jellric said:
Wasn't Jesus homeless?




Jesus was the Man, boys and girls.

You can't speak in absolutes like that. There is always going to be at least one person that doesn't fit the generality.
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Re: the homeless.. dirty bums or clever bussinessmen? [Re: StonedShroom]
    #2130866 - 11/23/03 07:27 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

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NO

They are gonna take it and buy alcohol or drugs. They are gonna take the money that you worked hard for and willingly gave up out of the kindness in your heart to get a high.




I don't really give a fuck if they get high with some spare change I might throw thier way.

If I give someone money out of "the goodness of my heart", I don't care what they do with it.

If they would rather get high than eat, so be it. I will not judge them. No matter what.


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Re: the homeless.. dirty bums or clever bussinessmen? [Re: StonedShroom]
    #2130882 - 11/23/03 07:34 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

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StonedShroom said:
Personally I feel that most homeless people bring it on themselves. If you give a homeles person change are they gonna save it? are they gonna invest it into cleaning their clothes? are they gonna buy food with it? are they gonna do anything to better themsleves with it?



INVEST it? BETTER themselves with it? WTF kind of money do you think they're making out there? And of course they're going to buy food. Do you really think they'll let themselves starve?

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They are gonna take it and buy alcohol or drugs.



So what? That's what I was gonna use the money for anyway.

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They are gonna take the money that you worked hard for and willingly gave up out of the kindness in your heart to get a high. THEN the taxes that are taken out of your paychecks are used so they can have foodstamps and shelter becuz they choose to use what little money they acquire begging in destructive ways.



When you develop an alcohol or drug addiction, tell me how easy it was for you to quit and how much self-control you had. kthx

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I say fuck them. I don't work hard so some bum can get have his crack and eat too.



If someone wants to get high, who am I to judge him? I like to get high too. Live and let live. You don't know what it's like for them, so don't go around judging others. No one said you have to give to them, but they're human beings, so have some compassion, ok?

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And whoever was talking about driving a homeless man who claims to have been in nam-that's just a CLAIM. Doesn't mean it actually happened. And if it DID happen-So he found his wife in bed with someone else. Happens everday. He could have gone to counseling. He was evendently well-off. he could have said 'see ya later bitch' and she would have gotten NOTHING cuz she committed adultry and life could have gone on. But he chose to become a drunk. He made the choice to let that happen.



See comments Re: alcoholism and self-control

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I hate the fact that every two weeks I see hundreds of MY dollars, MY hard-earned HONEST MONEY go towards taxes and then I see low-life scum totally raping the system.



My money goes to these guys too, but you don't see me bitchin about it, do ya? It's interesting to see a lesbian looking down on others and calling them scum when so many people look down on you for your sexual preference. Most homeless people have about as much control over their situation as you do over being a lesbian.


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Re: the homeless.. dirty bums or clever bussinessmen? [Re: StonedShroom]
    #2130902 - 11/23/03 07:44 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

Wasn't Jesus a character in a book that we don't even know is fiction or not?

So then he's a homeless character in a book?


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