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Cracking and possible contam...?
    #21283409 - 02/16/15 03:04 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

So I have a few questions for you guys. First is a few of my caps are cracking, I tried to read some posts about it but some people said maybe they were too dry and some said too wet or it could just be the spores I used...really didn't get me anywhere. I figured i'd post a couple pictures and see if anyone had some better insight for me!

Also, both of these I am wondering if I should pick? I'm going for potency, not sure if they are fully ready yet though. And the last thing is today I had to take all my cakes out and wash my container and put in new substrate- an attempt to kill the bugs that were starting to take over. (Any chance the bugs were eating the shrooms and that is what caused the cracks? I saw one crawl of a cap this morning.) And I noticed a weird mold on one of my cakes, it doesn't look good. I don't know if it's something I need to get away from the other cakes asap or what..

Sorry for all the questions, I'm clearly a newb! Any help would be appreciated, thank you!

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Re: Cracking and possible contam...? [Re: mushroomjen]
    #21283511 - 02/16/15 03:25 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

they're too dry. :thumbup:

Harvest right before the veil breaks.

The thought being that once the veil breaks and the cap begins to drop spores - potency declines.

so with that in mind I would say, yes that one is ready for harvest.

With all the information you've provided I'm curious as to what your FC is like.

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Re: Cracking and possible contam...? [Re: TheBoomking]
    #21283553 - 02/16/15 03:35 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

My humidity is always at 100% and I mist the walls often, also the cakes feel very moist to the touch. How can I get them to be less dry without directly spraying them?

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Re: Cracking and possible contam...? [Re: mushroomjen]
    #21283587 - 02/16/15 03:41 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Just spray the mushrooms directly. Forget about the bad info you got about spraying just the walls. :thumbup:


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Re: Cracking and possible contam...? [Re: Fungus Mountain]
    #21283723 - 02/16/15 04:07 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Okay thank you.. anyone have any thoughts on the last picture that looks like contam?

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Re: Cracking and possible contam...? [Re: mushroomjen]
    #21283806 - 02/16/15 04:20 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Take a Q-tip and gently rub that spot on the cake. If it's mold you should see some rub off, if it's bruising nothing will transfer to the Q-tip. Looks like it could be some light bruising due to stress, but hard to be sure.


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Re: Cracking and possible contam...? [Re: Fungus Mountain]
    #21290149 - 02/17/15 07:08 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Hey thats a really cool trick I've never heard/read before fungus mountain!

awesome advice!

but Im also pretty certain thats a contam - didnt look very good from what I remember looking at. :thumbdown:

Edited by TheBoomking (02/17/15 07:09 PM)

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Re: Cracking and possible contam...? [Re: TheBoomking]
    #21290623 - 02/17/15 08:29 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

because it doesnt work like that :crazy:

bruised myc can and will also rub off on the q-tip leaving a false positive.

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Re: Cracking and possible contam...? [Re: spacechildo]
    #21292552 - 02/18/15 08:58 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah but i feel like most experienced people could tell the difference between white/blue  mycelium and mold spores.

... thus you probably wouldn't need a q-tip...

I dunno I was pretty gone last night and didnt think that one through :shrug:

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Re: Cracking and possible contam...? [Re: TheBoomking]
    #21292596 - 02/18/15 09:06 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

the way to tell is bruising is actual bluing OF the mycelium
while mold is a foreign "object" growing on top of the mycelium.
mold are never blue tho, often more of a greenish tint.

its easier to tell the diff on the myc itself instead of rubbing it off on a q-tip.

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Re: Cracking and possible contam...? [Re: spacechildo]
    #21292601 - 02/18/15 09:07 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Looks more green than blue.


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Re: Cracking and possible contam...? [Re: mushroomjen]
    #21292849 - 02/18/15 10:18 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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My humidity is always at 100% and I mist the walls often, also the cakes feel very moist to the touch. How can I get them to be less dry without directly spraying them?




Your humidity isn't at 100%.  Your hygrometer is garbage and if you can return it I highly recommend you do so.  You should go based on visual cues, like by misting if there isn't visible moisture glistening on your substrate.

Sorry, MJ.  But I think we can turn those cakes around.

I agree that some pics of your FC will also help.


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Re: Cracking and possible contam...? [Re: spacechildo]
    #21292863 - 02/18/15 10:22 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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spacechildo said:
because it doesnt work like that :crazy:

bruised myc can and will also rub off on the q-tip leaving a false positive.





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PussyFart said:
The qtip method is bunk...bruised tissue can wipe off creating a false positive....





Indeed, it appears that PF has put the hammer down on that method. Mea culpa!


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Re: Cracking and possible contam...? [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21292874 - 02/18/15 10:25 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Cake looks to dry but there are blue types of mold. Also Im pretty sure the q-tip test was debunked as bad info years ago so I wouldn't listen to that but it does look a little more green in the pic my vote its a contam


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Re: Cracking and possible contam...? [Re: Lumiz]
    #21292885 - 02/18/15 10:29 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I don't see any pre-sporulation trich mycelium, though.


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Re: Cracking and possible contam...? [Re: Psilicon]
    #21292902 - 02/18/15 10:34 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

could be its deep inside the cake working its way out


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Re: Cracking and possible contam...? [Re: Lumiz]
    #21292924 - 02/18/15 10:39 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

And the spores beat the mycelium to the surface?


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Re: Cracking and possible contam...? [Re: Psilicon]
    #21293057 - 02/18/15 11:10 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

are these on there first flush mushroomjen?

possibly already had a contam late during colonizing but was over grown with mycelium then it decided to show up during fruiting. just a guess on my part I've had it happen with cakes but it doesn't really look like bruising thats for sure.


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