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occollegeboi
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How much drug testing is in the network security industry? Or any other computer industry?
#21290158 - 02/17/15 07:09 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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So, you know, I smoke weed. Anyway, I want to get certified in comptia a+, network+, and security+
so do these types of jobs drug test a lot? Initial drug tests are fine, those are easy to pass, but do they do ongoing drug testing and/or random drug testing?
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Re: How much drug testing is in the network security industry? Or any other computer industry? [Re: occollegeboi]
#21290174 - 02/17/15 07:12 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fake piss kits are pretty foolproof. Keep one in your car for emergencies.
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Re: How much drug testing is in the network security industry? Or any other computer industry? [Re: Matt87]
#21290184 - 02/17/15 07:14 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Matt87 said: Fake piss kits are pretty foolproof. Keep one in your car for emergencies.
Are you talking about just the synthetic urine or do I need the fake dick looking thing. I won't be observed while pissing, will I? Do you work in the computer industry? What do you do?
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Re: How much drug testing is in the network security industry? Or any other computer industry? [Re: occollegeboi]
#21290211 - 02/17/15 07:20 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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In general, the Computer/Tech/IT industry in my experience is one of the least likely to drug test you. A vast majority of IT people I know smoke weed. I've held many Tech jobs and several in IT... I was never drug tested for pre-employment in them. The only ones that might are major corporations, government or retail environments. And if they DO test you (unlikely for most IT positions).. it would likely only be a pre-employment screen.
If you do get piss tested I recommend real powdered human urine kits. They are more expensive, but pretty much foolproof, provided you get the temperature right. The synthetic urine is NOT foolproof.. high tech lab tests CAN detect synthetic urine these days. It will almost certainly NOT be an observed test. Those are generally for probation or court-ordered piss tests.
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Re: How much drug testing is in the network security industry? Or any other computer industry? [Re: occollegeboi]
#21290215 - 02/17/15 07:21 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Usually no. You won't be observed. I've personally used synthetic urine three times and it was fine. Get a jock strap or tight underwear to keep it in, for appropriate temperature and cause if you get a drug test/physical, the doc will touch your lower stomach (some kits strap to your belly). They work for sure. My friend had is the most recent user of one I know and he used the belly kind against this same advice I'm giving you, and got busted, but the doc pretended not to notice and passed him.
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Re: How much drug testing is in the network security industry? Or any other computer industry? [Re: Matt87]
#21290227 - 02/17/15 07:23 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Post script: a government gig might want to see the old Pringles can for your test, but that's just speculation.
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Re: How much drug testing is in the network security industry? Or any other computer industry? [Re: Matt87]
#21290233 - 02/17/15 07:25 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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The FBI actually wants to hire a bunch of hackers but they can't because they all smoke weed
They are considering loosening up their restrictions due to that. Almost all the best hackers toke and they aren't willing to give it up for a government gig
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Re: How much drug testing is in the network security industry? Or any other computer industry? [Re: Matt87]
#21290239 - 02/17/15 07:26 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I need a job like this
Smoking weed and writing code all day and night
Sounds like a fun life to me
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Re: How much drug testing is in the network security industry? Or any other computer industry? [Re: Matt87]
#21290271 - 02/17/15 07:31 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you get a reputable brand of synthetic urine, they are supposed to update the synthetic urine every year in order to stay current with all the new drug testing. It's like microsoft security updates, when they find new viruses, they release a security update to protect you.
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Re: How much drug testing is in the network security industry? Or any other computer industry? [Re: occollegeboi]
#21290288 - 02/17/15 07:34 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I haven't heard that.. but I would still be wary if a good job depended on it.. I'd spend the extra 10-20 bucks for the real stuff and not have to worry about it.
But that said, you are extremely unlikely to be tested unless it's for a government job or a corporate retail environment or similar. As stated.. most tech/IT/hacker guys smoke lots of weed. It's one of the few relatively good paying industries that doesn't drug test you by default.
It's something I was pleasantly relieved to find out when I started working in the industry. I was expecting to get tested at every major job I took.. never was.. except one retail environment.
And if they do test, it's 99% chance it's only a pre-employment screen. No random test bullshit.
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Re: How much drug testing is in the network security industry? Or any other computer industry? [Re: Shroomism] 1
#21295043 - 02/18/15 06:38 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: The FBI actually wants to hire a bunch of hackers but they can't because they all smoke weed
They are considering loosening up their restrictions due to that. Almost all the best hackers toke and they aren't willing to give it up for a government gig 
Hey do you have a source or some internet articles about this? I would love to tell my friends but they would definitely need evidence like a google article rather than me just spouting what I heard on some drug shroomery forum lol. Thanks.
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Re: How much drug testing is in the network security industry? Or any other computer industry? [Re: occollegeboi]
#21295148 - 02/18/15 07:04 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I work for a major tech firm and they don't drug test.
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Re: How much drug testing is in the network security industry? Or any other computer industry? [Re: Warrior]
#21295156 - 02/18/15 07:06 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Most industries besides hospitality aka restaurants drug test. Some don't. Also, I'm sure most headshops don't, for obvious reasons.
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