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Re: Do you think a lot of the marijuana people consume is GMO? [Re: psi]
#21289703 - 02/17/15 05:31 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I really can't tell the difference in high from different strains. Some buds just get me higher than others.
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Re: Do you think a lot of the marijuana people consume is GMO? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#21289756 - 02/17/15 05:45 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Does it even matter if it's GMO?
Take one healthy plant and breed it with another healthy plant. Voila you have a GMO plant.
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Re: Do you think a lot of the marijuana people consume is GMO? [Re: D.M.T]
#21289764 - 02/17/15 05:47 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I find there's quite a noticable difference in the high between a super dense and sticky indica and say an extremely fluffy lightweight sativa
I feel like the indica would have distinctly more sedative effects overall and keep me high for longer but it won't make me active and more energetic like the sativa would
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Re: Do you think a lot of the marijuana people consume is GMO? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#21289786 - 02/17/15 05:53 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I can't tell. I thought I used to be able to.. definitely can't now. I've grown a lot of sativas & indicas and the taste, potency and appearance are the biggest differences I can tell. These days anyway. Don't know what I must have been smoking 10+ years ago.
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Re: Do you think a lot of the marijuana people consume is GMO? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#21289795 - 02/17/15 05:55 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Haha... nope. No GMO here yet..ha
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Re: Do you think a lot of the marijuana people consume is GMO? [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#21289799 - 02/17/15 05:56 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oeric McKenna said: Haha... nope. No GMO here yet..ha
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Re: Do you think a lot of the marijuana people consume is GMO? [Re: Shroomism]
#21289806 - 02/17/15 05:57 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: But no, the cannabis of today is not GMO.
How can you be sure?
How can you be sure it has been? If you can show me ANY evidence that the pot in the market currently is GMO cannabis, I will gladly look at it. But that's just conspiracy theory with zero substance to back it up. As was already stated in this thread.. Cannabis is one of the few plants left that hasn't been genetically engineered for mass consumption.
Growers have simply been refining techniques and strains for many many years. All the strains on the market are hybrids and have been achieved through years of selective breeding and artificial selection. Not slicing other species into their DNA in a laboratory. If there was GMO cannabis, we WOULD know about it. They certainly wouldn't be able to keep that a secret.
From all indications, the biotech giants (Monsanto, Syngenta) have PLANS and are poised to make GMO cannabis when it becomes legalized, (Fuck them both with a barbed wire dildo) but that isn't a current reality.
http://www.zengardner.com/legalize-marijuana-gmo-pot-way/ http://gmocannabiswatch.blogspot.com/ http://hemp.org/news/content/gmo-weed-connections-alleged-between-uruguay-marijuana-legalization-monsanto-and-soros http://www.dutch-passion.nl/en/news-and-development/genetically-engineered-cannabis/ http://naturalsociety.com/monsanto-unleash-gmo-marijuana/ http://www.occupycorporatism.com/washington-state-pot-scare-rise-gmo-marijuana/ http://appliedmythology.blogspot.com/2013/08/is-there-really-gmo-pot.html
I'm not trying to assert that marijuana is GMO. I am just trying to receive assurance that it isn't. I intend for this to more of a discussion rather than an argument.
So far you haven't convinced me 100% that this possibility is ruled out. You say it would be obvious if marijuana was GMO - how so? I think that it would be pretty easy to discretely slip some GMO seeds into the supply line somewhere.
EDIT: I am reading your links right now so when I get done maybe I will rest assured, but for now I am not.
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Re: Do you think a lot of the marijuana people consume is GMO? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#21289816 - 02/17/15 05:59 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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But why? When it takes extensive lab work to even generate a GMO seed, why would someone slip it discretely?
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Re: Do you think a lot of the marijuana people consume is GMO? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#21289834 - 02/17/15 06:02 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not trying to assert that marijuana is GMO. I am just trying to receive assurance that it isn't. I intend for this to more of a discussion rather than an argument.
So far you haven't convinced me 100% that this possibility is ruled out. You say it would be obvious if marijuana was GMO - how so? I think that it would be pretty easy to discretely slip some GMO seeds into the supply line somewhere.
EDIT: I am reading your links right now so when I get done maybe I will rest assured, but for now I am not.
That's NOT how Monsanto operates at all. They would have sued every grower in the country if they were using their GMO seeds. Also that would be illegal for them. Also they LOVE to brag about their GMOs. They would not just "discreetly slip it into the mass supply". That is NOT how they operate at all.
Also - I'm no uber weed scientist but there are many out there that know the genetics backwards and forwards, if some mysterious super weed popped up with all these weird ass traits like glows in the dark or whatever the fuck from splicing in lightning bug DNA or some shit, we WOULD know about it.
All the "super" strains we have are a direct result of growers hard work and cross-breeding/selective breeding. I know the guy who made Blue Dream. There's no laboratory GMO weed, yet.
There's no secret conspiracy to discreetly have GMO weed all over the place. I'm sure Monsanto would LOVE to have GMO weed all over the place... but that's not reality. If there were GMO weed... we WOULD know about it, 100% guaranteed.
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Re: Do you think a lot of the marijuana people consume is GMO? [Re: Shroomism]
#21289859 - 02/17/15 06:08 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not trying to assert that marijuana is GMO. I am just trying to receive assurance that it isn't. I intend for this to more of a discussion rather than an argument.
So far you haven't convinced me 100% that this possibility is ruled out. You say it would be obvious if marijuana was GMO - how so? I think that it would be pretty easy to discretely slip some GMO seeds into the supply line somewhere.
EDIT: I am reading your links right now so when I get done maybe I will rest assured, but for now I am not.
That's NOT how Monsanto operates at all. They would have sued every grower in the country if they were using their GMO seeds. Also that would be illegal for them. Also they LOVE to brag about their GMOs. They would not just "discreetly slip it into the mass supply". That is NOT how they operate at all.
Also I'm no uber weed scientist but there are many out there that know the genetics backwards and forwards, if some mysterious super weed popped up with all these weird ass traits like glows radioactive or whatever the fuck from splicing in lightning bug DNA or some shit, we would know about it.
All the "super" strains we have are a direct result of growers hard work and cross-breeding/selective breeding. I know the guy who made Blue Dream. There's no laboratory GMO weed, yet.
Doesn't necessarily have to be Monsanto that did it. And I don't know of any plant - not even the most radically-genetically fucked with - that "glows radioactive" from its genetic splicing. My point is, that if it were done, I don't see why it would have to be obvious.
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Re: Do you think a lot of the marijuana people consume is GMO? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#21289862 - 02/17/15 06:10 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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There's only a few companies even capable of doing it. And they would most certainly document it and flaunt it to the entire world AND have patents for it, for SURE. Show me some proof it's been done and secretly slipped into the "mass seed supply".. whatever that is. Most growers use their own seed supplies. I've given you more than enough to show you it's not happening right now. I'm sure they would love to have GMO weed all over the place, but that is NOT reality at all, and we would certainly know about it if that ever were to be the case. It sounds like you are buying into your friends conspiracy theory more than you think.
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Re: Do you think a lot of the marijuana people consume is GMO? [Re: D.M.T]
#21289871 - 02/17/15 06:11 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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D.M.T said: But why? When it takes extensive lab work to even generate a GMO seed, why would someone slip it discretely?
Yeah, typically the people with the resources to do such things want to be able to end up with some patents so that they make their money back.
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Re: Do you think a lot of the marijuana people consume is GMO? [Re: Shroomism]
#21289877 - 02/17/15 06:13 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Do you think a lot of the marijuana people consume is GMO? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
#21289915 - 02/17/15 06:22 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think it's possible that someone somewhere inserted a gene into some marijuana at some point. If that gene has desireable traits, it may have been selected for by people cros-breeding strains. A foreign gene could easily be snuck into the genome of an entire plant species if someone had the resources.
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Re: Do you think a lot of the marijuana people consume is GMO? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
#21289923 - 02/17/15 06:23 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Of course we can get into the auto-flowering strains, which I personally wouldn't mess with, nor would I want ruderalis mixed with high quality genetics, and also feminized seeds. Making feminized seeds isn't difficult in a controlled environment, and is still not genetic modification. But I'm skeptical of the auto-flowers.
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Re: Do you think a lot of the marijuana people consume is GMO? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#21289959 - 02/17/15 06:30 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not trying to assert that marijuana is GMO. I am just trying to receive assurance that it isn't. I intend for this to more of a discussion rather than an argument.
So far you haven't convinced me 100% that this possibility is ruled out. You say it would be obvious if marijuana was GMO - how so? I think that it would be pretty easy to discretely slip some GMO seeds into the supply line somewhere.
EDIT: I am reading your links right now so when I get done maybe I will rest assured, but for now I am not.
That's NOT how Monsanto operates at all. They would have sued every grower in the country if they were using their GMO seeds. Also that would be illegal for them. Also they LOVE to brag about their GMOs. They would not just "discreetly slip it into the mass supply". That is NOT how they operate at all.
Also I'm no uber weed scientist but there are many out there that know the genetics backwards and forwards, if some mysterious super weed popped up with all these weird ass traits like glows radioactive or whatever the fuck from splicing in lightning bug DNA or some shit, we would know about it.
All the "super" strains we have are a direct result of growers hard work and cross-breeding/selective breeding. I know the guy who made Blue Dream. There's no laboratory GMO weed, yet.
Doesn't necessarily have to be Monsanto that did it. And I don't know of any plant - not even the most radically-genetically fucked with - that "glows radioactive" from its genetic splicing. My point is, that if it were done, I don't see why it would have to be obvious.
There are plants that glow in the dark. They've been spliced with jellyfish genes or something like that. Also glow in the dark pigs.
http://www.dezeen.com/2014/01/13/worlds-first-glow-in-the-dark-plant-genetically-engineered/
http://americanlivewire.com/2013-12-28-gmo-animals-genetically-modified-pigs-14-45641/
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Re: Do you think a lot of the marijuana people consume is GMO? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#21290022 - 02/17/15 06:40 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cognitive_Shift said: Does it even matter if it's GMO?
Take one healthy plant and breed it with another healthy plant. Voila you have a GMO plant.
Are you serious? Do I really have to repeat the fact again that cross breeding is not genetic modification?
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Re: Do you think a lot of the marijuana people consume is GMO? [Re: Ran-D]
#21290038 - 02/17/15 06:44 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cognitive_Shift said: Does it even matter if it's GMO?
Take one healthy plant and breed it with another healthy plant. Voila you have a GMO plant.
Are you serious? Do I really have to repeat the fact again that cross breeding is not genetic modification?
Yes it is. Take a plant which produces large buds, cross it with a plant with large buds. Voila GMO plant.
Dogs are GMO's
Any time you breed something for a desired trait that's GMO.
The poison oak growing in your backyard, not GMO.
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Re: Do you think a lot of the marijuana people consume is GMO? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#21290047 - 02/17/15 06:45 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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No, BY DEFINITION THAT DOES NOT PRODUCE A GMO.
My god, I have posted the definitions already. This is ridiculous.
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Re: Do you think a lot of the marijuana people consume is GMO? [Re: Ran-D]
#21290055 - 02/17/15 06:46 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ran-D said: No, BY DEFINITION THAT DOES NOT PRODUCE A GMO.
My god, I have posted the definitions already. This is ridiculous.
By definition that's exactly what a GMO is.
Breed for desired trait GMO.
Take a plant with big green beans, breed it with another plant with big green beans. If you desire to have bigger green beans then voila GMO
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