Home | Community | Message Board

MRCA Tyroler Gluckspilze
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Mushroom-Hut Substrate Mix   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | Next >  [ show all ]
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
OfflinecronicrFacebook
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/07/11
Posts: 61,436
Loc: Van Isle Flag
Last seen: 2 years, 7 days
Trusted Cultivator
Growing Without A Fruiting Chamber * 19
    #21288129 - 02/17/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

I see a lot of people wondering how i did this so thought a write up may do some good, many of you know i went almost a year with out using a fruiting chamber at all just simply giving my substrates a casing layer and misting as needed or even watering my substrates, this includes pan species cubes libs and gymnopilus species i did.

The thing to remember(which is something i find misunderstood) is that the most important humidity you have is surface humidity, in other words it really doesn't matter if your fc has a rh of 40% or 99% as long as there is room for evaporation to take place the humidity that is important sits on the surface.

This is our goal with every fruiting chamber we use is surface humidity, with our monotubs we dial them in to achieve this, with our sgfc's we mist as needed to achieve this, with our gh's we (depending on your set up)use something like an ultrasonic humidifier as a timed mister to achieve this because once we have this we can focus on fae which is a great tool for everything your substrate wants for many reasons, the more the better:super:

The reason we grow in a high humidity environment is simple, mushrooms have no skin and lose moisture to the environment very easily and if they lose more then is being pumped in they simply die. This is an easy fix just simply misting your fruits:cool:

Which leads me to my adventures with no fruiting chamber:rockon:
The process is as simple as ever and done with any basic growing tek...i used grain spawn and a coir bulk substrate(just coir no verm or gysum added, none was available)

2 qt's of spawn were used to spawn to 4 qt's of sterilized coir, once it was fully colonized i simply added about 1/4 inch more of sterilized coir and introduced to fruiting conditions once it was about 30% colonized but you can simply fruit it right away with the same results as cubes are very aggresive and that does not take long at all anyway.

from this point on it is as simple as keeping that casing layer nice and moist, all i did was put my sub by a nice bright window on the table and shut any fans off, once i could see the top layering drying out i just simply mist again till it's covered in nice beads of moisture, surprisingly this would still take 3-4 hours at a time to take place but i'm sure this will differ from one spot to the next. come night time i would simply cover it up with a plastic bag or something with some holes in it(dark cycle anyway) and give it love in the morning.

Within a few days my substrates knot up/pin and it is as simple as i stated already...mist as needed, they love all the fresh air/evaporation they get and treated me well.


as long as you can keep this up you should see no low rh related issues arise:super:










Other no fc grows of mine...


(this one you can see i failed to mist a few times lol)

(the result of over misting can be be bacterial blotching)







GOOD LUCK!















--------------------

It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn

I'm tired do me a favor


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblewowimflabbergasted
supercalifragilistic
 User Gallery


Registered: 07/16/12
Posts: 18,918
Re: Growing Without A Fruiting Chamber [Re: cronicr]
    #21289107 - 02/17/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Oh shit cron! :rockon:


--------------------
TempMail | TempPMs
My Guide | MJ Grows



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehamloaf
Loaf of Fam.
Male User Gallery
Registered: 12/23/09
Posts: 20,192
Loc: Oklahoma. Flag
Last seen: 1 year, 8 months
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Growing Without A Fruiting Chamber [Re: cronicr]
    #21289113 - 02/17/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Good write-up, cron.  Nice contribution.


--------------------

   
How I Get Stuff done. - My Reference Guide. - My Grows.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinetranskei
Mr
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/24/07
Posts: 218
Loc: Texas Flag
Last seen: 1 year, 10 months
Re: Growing Without A Fruiting Chamber [Re: hamloaf]
    #21289151 - 02/17/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Point well taken


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineNightontheSun
Musician
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/23/14
Posts: 32
Loc: Above Mexico Flag
Last seen: 7 years, 9 months
Re: Growing Without A Fruiting Chamber [Re: cronicr]
    #21289276 - 02/17/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

This is great info, thanks for sharing. I've got five treasure coast cakes about a week into consolidation so they are probably ready to birth dunk and roll. But my fruiting chamber is full. I've been kinda lazy lately cause my stash of homegrown reserves is bigger than it normally is so I don't "need" to grow. So basically I'm trying to think of a fun project to use with these cakes. This just might be the ticket.


--------------------

"Without music life would be a mistake."
-Frederick Nietzsche
*               
"Girls" with scorpion tattoos d ;


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineJudPie
AnAngryDM

Registered: 02/04/15
Posts: 68
Loc: At my table, playing D&D
Last seen: 8 years, 3 months
Re: Growing Without A Fruiting Chamber [Re: hamloaf]
    #21289279 - 02/17/15 03:53 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Neat stuff, great write up bro!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineinvitro

Registered: 05/03/13
Posts: 2,529
Last seen: 1 month, 19 days
Re: Growing Without A Fruiting Chamber [Re: cronicr]
    #21289322 - 02/17/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Cronicr said : " fae ... is a great tool for everything your substrate wants for many reasons"

Care to elaborate? 
Evaporation is one reason, is more evaporation better?  How much evaporation is best?

To take it to an absurd extreme: if you take that tray and put a fan on it so that you have to mist almost non-stop to keep it moist,
what would happen?

Are there other reasons besides evaporation?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehamloaf
Loaf of Fam.
Male User Gallery
Registered: 12/23/09
Posts: 20,192
Loc: Oklahoma. Flag
Last seen: 1 year, 8 months
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Growing Without A Fruiting Chamber [Re: invitro]
    #21289340 - 02/17/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

The more evaporation the merrier.  Evaporation of moisture from the substrate is a direct effect of fresh air coming in contact with the substrate, and visa-versa. 

Your scenario happens in nature all the time.  The zone I live in is windy, but humid at the same time.  Even when it is cold. 

I hate the place where I currently reside, but if I were a mushroom, I would love it.


--------------------

   
How I Get Stuff done. - My Reference Guide. - My Grows.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinecronicrFacebook
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/07/11
Posts: 61,436
Loc: Van Isle Flag
Last seen: 2 years, 7 days
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Growing Without A Fruiting Chamber [Re: hamloaf] * 1
    #21289363 - 02/17/15 04:16 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

also a great defense against molds that thrive in stale air enviroments:thumbup:


--------------------

It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn

I'm tired do me a favor


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineurthtown
meat popsicle
Male


Registered: 10/26/13
Posts: 1,039
Loc: Eastern Canadia Flag
Last seen: 2 years, 3 months
Re: Growing Without A Fruiting Chamber [Re: cronicr]
    #21289382 - 02/17/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

:headbanger:

I remember reading your posts after er... 'losing' all your shit and seeing these wicked grows! Nice to have a place to reference the grows bud. :rockon:


--------------------
Cluster Headache sufferer? Cluster Busting :thumbup:
Veil Tear GIF
Flower Pot Grow GIF
Mini Mono Tub GIFS

"All mushrooms are edible, but some only once."
-- Croatian Proverb



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesilverstem
Caps & Stems
Male


Registered: 10/12/13
Posts: 900
Loc: jordan Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 5 months
Re: Growing Without A Fruiting Chamber [Re: invitro]
    #21289392 - 02/17/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

good read. nice job.
Quote:

invitro said: "if you take that tray and put a fan on it so that you have to mist almost non-stop to keep it moist,
what would happen?




the surface humidity would be ruined.


--------------------


Shroomery needs a gun forum!!!!!!!!! CAN WE HAVE ONE?????


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleSpitballJedi
Ancient Astronaut
Male User Gallery


Registered: 10/13/12
Posts: 8,598
Loc: Nibiru Flag
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Growing Without A Fruiting Chamber [Re: cronicr]
    #21289403 - 02/17/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

:congrats::takingnotes:


--------------------
The Basics
A little civility goes a long way

The Noob Forum
The Hammock Hangers' Forum


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinecronicrFacebook
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/07/11
Posts: 61,436
Loc: Van Isle Flag
Last seen: 2 years, 7 days
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Growing Without A Fruiting Chamber [Re: invitro]
    #21289404 - 02/17/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

invitro said:


To take it to an absurd extreme: if you take that tray and put a fan on it so that you have to mist almost non-stop to keep it moist,
what would happen?




if you could keep your sub moist and keep misting it would be fine i would think:shrug:


--------------------

It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn

I'm tired do me a favor


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinespacechildo
proletarians rise up
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/24/13
Posts: 19,243
Loc: Babylon
Last seen: 6 years, 4 months
Re: Growing Without A Fruiting Chamber [Re: cronicr]
    #21289412 - 02/17/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

great work my friend! you make it seem so easy (even when I know its anything but!) :thumbup:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleMunchauzen
 User Gallery

Registered: 06/22/11
Posts: 14,342
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Growing Without A Fruiting Chamber [Re: spacechildo]
    #21289440 - 02/17/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

:takingnotes:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblebodhisattaMDiscordReddit
Smurf real estate agent
 User Gallery
Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,889
Loc: Milky way
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Growing Without A Fruiting Chamber [Re: Munchauzen]
    #21289476 - 02/17/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

:cool:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleSpitballJedi
Ancient Astronaut
Male User Gallery


Registered: 10/13/12
Posts: 8,598
Loc: Nibiru Flag
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Growing Without A Fruiting Chamber [Re: Munchauzen]
    #21289488 - 02/17/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Why do you cover it at night? Is it because you can't mist?


--------------------
The Basics
A little civility goes a long way

The Noob Forum
The Hammock Hangers' Forum


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinecronicrFacebook
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/07/11
Posts: 61,436
Loc: Van Isle Flag
Last seen: 2 years, 7 days
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Growing Without A Fruiting Chamber [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #21289507 - 02/17/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

yeah just becauser i can't mist, i have forgotten to cover them which never killed them or anything but you cna see the cracked caps and pale fruits as a result of it:thumbup:


--------------------

It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn

I'm tired do me a favor


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineurthtown
meat popsicle
Male


Registered: 10/26/13
Posts: 1,039
Loc: Eastern Canadia Flag
Last seen: 2 years, 3 months
Re: Growing Without A Fruiting Chamber [Re: cronicr]
    #21289571 - 02/17/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

But what do you do for FAE if you don't have holes every 2" on all six sides? :rofl:


:bow2::bow2::bow2::bow2:


--------------------
Cluster Headache sufferer? Cluster Busting :thumbup:
Veil Tear GIF
Flower Pot Grow GIF
Mini Mono Tub GIFS

"All mushrooms are edible, but some only once."
-- Croatian Proverb



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehalfbakedwife
ProfessionalHousewife
Female

Registered: 02/07/15
Posts: 25
Loc: At JudPie's table, playin...
Last seen: 8 years, 10 months
Re: Growing Without A Fruiting Chamber [Re: cronicr]
    #21289575 - 02/17/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

I see youre in the frozen tundra too, whats your thoughts on the affects of the seasons? Does it matter?


--------------------
Well now its an experiment...



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | Next >  [ show all ]

Shop: Mushroom-Hut Substrate Mix   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Fruiting Chamber Question Anonymous 5,615 3 03/09/02 05:06 PM
by WakingUpLate
* Fruiting Chamber and Sterilization TinMan 2,669 9 10/17/02 10:58 PM
by SixTango
* clear tubbeware fruiting chamber thisone 2,437 8 11/19/02 07:15 PM
by thisone
* Why you like fruiting chamber so cold? badjessejames 3,266 3 07/22/02 11:17 AM
by pleezr
* Fruiting Chamber idea & humidification Ques. oO_wombat_Oo 4,191 10 03/19/02 02:22 AM
by WakingUpLate
* fruiting chamber and harvest time thisone 2,203 7 11/13/02 04:50 PM
by dog
* What's the optimal height for a fruiting chamber? paranoid2 3,607 6 07/15/02 02:42 PM
by FanaTEK
* fruiting chamber (pics) MsPacMan 5,522 18 10/22/02 11:56 AM
by Skikid16

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
35,037 topic views. 23 members, 185 guests and 43 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.035 seconds spending 0.009 seconds on 13 queries.