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amech619
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nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek)
#21288041 - 02/17/15 01:29 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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nervous first timer for pf tek. these are B+ strain, and im wondering if these are fruiting right? theres 4 mushrooms on the cake total, and all 4 growing diffrently. 1 has fatass, ands the one next to it is also a fatass but very smalle. Then on the other side of the cake is a skinny stem with dark brown cap, the one next to it is also skinny stem but has a white cap. Any feedback is much appreicated.
Edited by amech619 (02/17/15 01:33 PM)
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: amech619]
#21288319 - 02/17/15 02:10 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mushrooms do strange things, assuming this is a multispore you'll never know what you're going to get for mutations. Looks good so far. What style of fruiting chamber are you using?
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: verytastycheese]
#21288823 - 02/17/15 02:51 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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that darker cap might be an abort
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: verytastycheese]
#21288941 - 02/17/15 02:59 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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thank you im using a Shotgun style chamber, i noticed a few days ago i forgot to drill holes on TOP of lid so i did that recently. hope that will help as well.
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: amech619]
#21289165 - 02/17/15 03:23 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pic of your whole setup?
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: amech619]
#21289206 - 02/17/15 03:34 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Looks great. With ms your fruits will be very different from one another which can be a good thing. It looks like you've got an albino growing there. If it were me I'd clone the albino b+. Novelty growers like myself are always looking for interesting mutations and such. Keep it up looking good so far.
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
#21289238 - 02/17/15 03:41 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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wowimflabbergasted said: Pic of your whole setup?
It doesn't look like your holes are 2" apart in your pic. A properly built SGFC will have 1/4" holes 2" apart on all six sides in a grid pattern.
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: T-Funkadelic]
#21289501 - 02/17/15 04:51 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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The cakes look alright but I don't see many holes in your fruiting chamber. They really need to be every 2 inches.
Also next time try putting a thick layer of verm on top and bottom of your cakes. It really helps the cake maintain water and makes for a great little microclimate. I like to water the top and bottom layer of thick verm once or twice a day along with regular misting and fanning. Just look up top watering or bottom watering although it's pretty much just what I mentioned. When I say thick layer of vermiculite I mean like a 1/2 inch or more. Seems to really help me out with keeping the cakes hydrated. Good luck!
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: verytastycheese]
#21289574 - 02/17/15 05:06 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have 18 jars that have been incubating since last Monday so far 9 to 10 of them are showing great colonization. Should I rule the others out just yet?
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: chris1987]
#21289581 - 02/17/15 05:07 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: Lightinguy4]
#21289583 - 02/17/15 05:08 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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is it too late to add an extra layer of verm on top of the cakes that didnt get much??? im only 7 days in after birthing.
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: T-Funkadelic]
#21289585 - 02/17/15 05:09 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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even drill holes in the bottom of the FC?
Edited by amech619 (02/17/15 05:21 PM)
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: chris1987]
#21289621 - 02/17/15 05:14 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Chris 1987...No just wait it out and see what they do. Sometimes it takes weeks to see growth. I'm sure they will colonize or contam sooner or later. Also you can't thread jack. Read the rules cause most of the time you will get bashed for thread jacking.Good luck
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: T-Funkadelic]
#21289635 - 02/17/15 05:17 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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yep. i failed at reading directions. i will be adding more holes right now and just a heads up the humidity is that low because i was fanning at the time of the pic. the humidty is stable at 95-99 percent. what do you folks think about the lighting. my FC is right next to a window and direct light never hits the box.
Edited by amech619 (02/17/15 05:19 PM)
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: T-Funkadelic]
#21289693 - 02/17/15 05:30 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wouldn't recomend adding verm after your dunk and roll that would just make it easier for contams to set up shop.
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: amech619]
#21289711 - 02/17/15 05:32 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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amech619 said: yep. i failed at reading directions. i will be adding more holes right now and just a heads up the humidity is that low because i was fanning at the time of the pic. the humidty is stable at 95-99 percent. what do you folks think about the lighting. my FC is right next to a window and direct light never hits the box.

Ambient light from a window is fine. No direct sunlight though. Also your perlite should be 3-5" deep. looks like you should add some more.
should look like this.
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Edited by T-Funkadelic (02/17/15 05:43 PM)
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: T-Funkadelic]
#21290104 - 02/17/15 06:56 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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T-Funkadelic said: I wouldn't recomend adding verm after your dunk and roll that would just make it easier for contams to set up shop.
After birthing and first dunk, then add verm. Also I've added verm after all dunks up to the third flush and have yet to have a contam until after my 3rd to 4th flush. I tried it both ways and the cakes that I've rolled each time always out perform the ones I don't roll.
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: T-Funkadelic]
#21290120 - 02/17/15 06:58 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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T-Funkadelic said: I wouldn't recomend adding verm after your dunk and roll that would just make it easier for contams to set up shop.
After birthing and first dunk, then add verm. Also I've added verm after all dunks up to the third flush and have yet to have a contam until after my 3rd to 4th flush. I tried it both ways and the cakes that I've rolled each time always out perform the ones I don't roll.
And these are what my cakes turn out like.
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: amech619]
#21290170 - 02/17/15 07:12 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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amech619 said: is it too late to add an extra layer of verm on top of the cakes that didnt get much??? im only 7 days in after birthing.
I would wait now until after your first flush. Then dunk again for 16-24 hours then don't roll again just add verm to top and bottom. There's plenty of people that will tell you to only roll after your birth dunk and roll, but I've also talked to plenty that roll after each dunk. Id try it and see how it works for you if you notice contams are setting in early then I would stop, but I haven't had a contam until after my 3rd flush and usually it's 4th flush before contam sets in. You get the majority of your fruits on 1st and second flush anyway so anything after that is really not much. I only keep them around till they contam because I have the room for them and I like seeing how far I can push them. I'm new myself but I've done over 100 cakes now, and LOTS of verm especially on the first Dunk and roll works wonders along with bottom and top watering. My best flush so far is over 175 wet grams off one 1/2 pint single flush. good luck to you.
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: Lightinguy4]
#21290201 - 02/17/15 07:18 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Lightinguy4 said: I would wait now until after your first flush. Then dunk again for 16-24 hours then don't roll again just add verm to top and bottom. There's plenty of people that will tell you to only roll after your birth dunk and roll, but I've also talked to plenty that roll after each dunk. Id try it and see how it works for you if you notice contams are setting in early then I would stop, but I haven't had a contam until after my 3rd flush and usually it's 4th flush before contam sets in. You get the majority of your fruits on 1st and second flush anyway so anything after that is really not much. I only keep them around till they contam because I have the room for them and I like seeing how far I can push them. I'm new myself but I've done over 100 cakes now, and LOTS of verm especially on the first Dunk and roll works wonders along with bottom and top watering. My best flush so far is over 175 wet grams off one 1/2 pint single flush. good luck to you.
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: Lightinguy4]
#21290252 - 02/17/15 07:28 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Definitely add more perlite like the guy above said. Your humidity is fine right now but once you put the correct amount of holes needed for a proper SGFC, I don't think that amount of perlite will keep the humidity where it needs to be.
Proper SGFC 1/4" holes every 2 inches on ALL SIX SIDES. Add 3-5" of wet perlite. I like closer to 5 even 6 if your FC is tall enough. Your SGFC HAS to be elevated to work correctly. You must raise it at least a few inches off the surface you put it on. Right now it's oy keeping humidity up because you have do few holes. But that's not allowing enough Fresh air in for your mushrooms. They key is to get as much FAE and still keep humidity 95-100%. Cakes like the highest humidity they can get. But your mushrooms will not like all the stale air. That will also invite tons of contams in. Plenty of FAE helps keep contams away. So to recap, drill more holes on all sides including the bottom. Raise it up on shot glasses cups or whatever you have. Add more wet perlite. I would also add 1 6500k cfl light bulb over the SGFC. I went without one and just had ambient window light on the beginning of my first grow, I then added the day light 6500k bulb and they all took off. I actually have 4 CFL 6500k's surrounding my SGFC because I like then to have light from all four sides as all my tops are non translucent. If you could get just one pointing down from above that would be perfect.
I like to use desk top lamps, the ones with the bendable necks. It makes it easy to focus the light directly at your cakes. Check out your local thrift stores, I found all mine for a couple bucks each. That or walmart has nice clip on flex neck lights for around 7-8$.
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: T-Funkadelic]
#21290274 - 02/17/15 07:31 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Also, can cakes colonize in a fruiting chamber with the humidity being 99 %? I plan on knocking up some more once I birth my first batch
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: chris1987]
#21291088 - 02/17/15 10:03 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
#21291220 - 02/17/15 10:36 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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wowimflabbergasted said: Here bro... SGFC
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Re: nervous first time grower. are these growing correctly? (pf tek) [Re: Dingaling]
#21291309 - 02/17/15 11:06 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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