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Re: If light is so important [Re: taGyo]
    #21284204 - 02/16/15 05:14 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Pretty damn close

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Re: If light is so important [Re: taGyo]
    #21284226 - 02/16/15 05:18 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

it's not like we're arguing this because we're on RRs dick, it's just that the vast majority of our own experiences and seeing other peoples pictures/experiences reflects RR's quotes as well. RR is not god sure but some of his quotes come from understanding rather than him just talking shit

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Re: If light is so important [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21284311 - 02/16/15 05:32 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

RR is one of the very few who dedicated time to controlled experiments, hard not to quote that sometimes.


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Re: If light is so important [Re: cronicr]
    #21284406 - 02/16/15 05:45 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Well if you guys are going to argue a point and stand up for it, I think that those ppl should have some kind of experience in the matter not just go off what someone else has said. Try it, spawn, colonize and pin under extreme lighting, once pinning starts, move tub to complete darkness, check on it once a day to make the experiment "fair", maybe give it a camera flash every couple of days as I did and see what kind of results you get. Then come argue your point.

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Re: If light is so important [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21284421 - 02/16/15 05:46 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

He's got a point,

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Re: If light is so important [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21284461 - 02/16/15 05:51 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I kinda see light to cube mushrooms as vitamins to me. Sure, I will be fine if I skip on the vitamins but I could be healthier and better protected against illness with the vitamins. Cubes function better with some light.

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Re: If light is so important [Re: blackdust]
    #21284571 - 02/16/15 06:06 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

experience needs guidance sometimes


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Re: If light is so important [Re: cronicr]
    #21284720 - 02/16/15 06:24 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

So..... more light.....or less light. That's what we are talking here right.
Oh the places you will go....


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Re: If light is so important [Re: randoman]
    #21284748 - 02/16/15 06:29 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)



Quote:

the sunlight on cloudy days, 6000 K; in
the shade 8000 K24. Most wild mushrooms
grow in the shade.

between 480 and 460 nm and Fig. 6
suggests that we can expect 150 to 200
lumens per Watt in that waveband. Looking
back at Fig. 5, we notice that chlorophyll a
does not absorb those wavelengths, while
chlorophyll b absorbs between 5 and 100
on the absorption coefficient scale. Since
most mushrooms known to require light
are found under trees, light that is not
absorbed by the leaves is more able to reach
the mushrooms. There is another factor
influencing the light: shorter wavelengths
are more efficiently scattered, so the blue
light is scattered and re-scattered and
moves easily through the leaves6
. Plants
and fungi absorb mainly the blue-light
spectrum because it provides a greater
source of photon energy, independently of
the purpose

http://www.redalyc.org/pdf/685/68528461002.pdf



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Re: If light is so important [Re: blackdust]
    #21284865 - 02/16/15 06:44 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

But what do they absorb that light to DO?


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Re: If light is so important [Re: blackdust]
    #21284908 - 02/16/15 06:51 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

It is my understanding that a light in the blue spectrum diffused evenly across your cropping surface will aid in achieving an ubiquitous pin-set over the cropping surface. It is also my experience that lighting plays a role in fruit body development. However, I can not substantiate those assertions.


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Re: If light is so important [Re: taGyo]
    #21284917 - 02/16/15 06:52 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

they use the light to look more normal and add coloration. that's all I can say for sure.

I'm gunna continue to give my mushrooms a nice tan, idk bout u guys

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Re: If light is so important [Re: taGyo]
    #21284934 - 02/16/15 06:56 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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taGyo said:
But what do they absorb that light to DO?



you should change your title to "Mobil Contamination Unit".  :lol:


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Re: If light is so important [Re: hamloaf]
    #21284942 - 02/16/15 06:58 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

hamloaf said:
Quote:

taGyo said:
But what do they absorb that light to DO?



you should change your title to "Mobil Contamination Unit".  :lol:



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Re: If light is so important [Re: taGyo]
    #21284957 - 02/16/15 07:02 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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taGyo said:
But what do they absorb that light to DO?





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Recent advances in fungal photobiology
using molecular tools and genomic analysis
have shown specific phytochromes,
photoreceptor proteins, transcription
factors, light-regulated genes, and to a
certain extent common regulatory pathways
leading to mushroom development
and spore viability. Several blue-light
and red-light absorbing photoreceptors
receive photons and transduce the photon
energy into the cell to regulate fungal
photoresponses through differential gene
expression, e.g. carotenoid biosynthesis,
hyphal aggregation, primordia formation,
and mushroom differentiation4,18. Similar
processes are expected to occur in
commercially cultivated mushrooms, such
as Pleurotus, Lentinula, and Ganoderma.
Light-regulated genes seem to be
widespread in fungal genomes, showing
the relevance of light not only in fungal
metabolism, but also in sexual and asexual
development7,17.
It seems likely that all mushrooms, which
require light, use a common regulatory
pathway for basidioma development.
However, interesting is the case of those
species that do not require light for fruiting,
such as Agaricus bisporus, because it is
not known yet if they have inactive light
absorbing photoreceptors or alternative
mechanisms. Then we can expect that
the active photoreceptor(s) absorbs light



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Re: If light is so important [Re: blackdust]
    #21284973 - 02/16/15 07:06 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Judging by that article light matters a lot. KSSS must just not give a fuck.


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Re: If light is so important [Re: taGyo]
    #21284994 - 02/16/15 07:10 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

No where in that article does it say cubensis. Also read the last part of that article about some species not needing light to fruit

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Re: If light is so important [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21285020 - 02/16/15 07:15 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

BD, you're not linking shit that has nothing to do with Cubes are you...?

Towards the end he's talking about edibles. Bisp. I'm familiar with.


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Re: If light is so important [Re: taGyo]
    #21285263 - 02/16/15 08:06 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

P. Cubensis is said to be a photosensitive species, and experiments have been done long ago to substantiate this.

"THE EFFECT OF LIGHT UPON BASIDIOCARP INITIATION IN PSILOCYBE CUBENSIS." Mycologia. Vol. 72, No. 1. (Jan. - Feb., 1980), pp. 136-142.
Abstract: Formation of basidiocarp initials in Psilocibe cubensis occurred only when cultures were illuminated. Short durations of light (0.0025 sec of xenon-arc flash) were sufficient for initiation. Light-induced initiation was saturated at a dose of 0.345 x l04 ergs/cm2 at 460 nm. UV and blue wavelengths of 370, 440, and 460 nm were the most effective. Green and red wavelengths greater than 510 nm were ineffective.

Here is the PDF detailing the experiments and findings:
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/3759426?sid=21105879857263&uid=4&uid=2&uid=3739936&uid=3739256

It is interesting to note that the exposure time necessary to stimulate pin-head initiation was merely half a millisecond per day. Perhaps people who claim that they have successfully fruited P. Cubensis completely bereft of light, may have unwittingly provided it, albeit to a minute extent.


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Re: If light is so important [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21285267 - 02/16/15 08:06 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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No where in that article does it say cubensis. Also read the last part of that article about some species not needing light to fruit




Cubes don't grow under ground in nature. They evolved with the sun as any other edible mushroom. Why it would be an exception. And good luck trying to find an article mentioning cubensis.

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