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cronicr



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Re: If light is so important [Re: cronicr]
#21282945 - 02/16/15 01:35 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: If light is so important [Re: cronicr]
#21282954 - 02/16/15 01:38 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice Cron,
Where do you find all of these tidbits?
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Re: If light is so important [Re: taGyo]
#21282990 - 02/16/15 01:48 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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there is a pdf library here in the community section
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bodhisatta 
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PinPornProducer said: But I'm sure another heat source is being used, not just LED lighting
Yes, the heat generated by the own substrates.

sabastian and sara only use the LED lights to fill in shadows. it's natural lighting in their farm. 
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PinPornProducer said: "Maybe" the mycelium uses the light as way of knowing which direction to focus fruits for reproduction. They think, where there is light there is air. Once they break ground, all they need is fresh air, moisture and humidity to promote healthy growth for large caps to maximize reproduction and they have already associated the direction of light to be opposite gravity so they would continue to grow opposite gravity regardless of light at this point
Most mushrooms we're concerned about here's primodria in nature start off subterranean, the original pinning site receives no light in most, but not all, circumstances.
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spacechildo
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PinPornProducer said: These were grown cold with no light
   These are the same strain grown warm with light
   The caps on the ones grown cold with no light grew dark, I'm guessing maybe to try and absorb as much heat as possible through any light it comes across. And the ones grown warm and with light, their caps grew light color because other growing conditions such as temp were optimal so be need to absorb energy through light. Just my guess 
I was like "Why did they ignore this?"
Great experiment,


MS, same "strain", not a real experiment because several conditions were altered at once and no control tub/grow was being used
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PinPornProducer
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Re: If light is so important [Re: spacechildo]
#21283839 - 02/16/15 04:25 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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MS, same "strain", not a real experiment because several conditions were altered at once and no control tub/grow was being used 
If I get the same results from this strain for 2 years and all of a sudden grow em in the dark and see a drastic change in size and appearance, that's good enough of a control for me
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Re: If light is so important [Re: cronicr]
#21283843 - 02/16/15 04:26 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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dark and cold and your discussing light and heat all over. didnt mean to offend just explain
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PinPornProducer
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Re: If light is so important [Re: spacechildo]
#21284001 - 02/16/15 04:43 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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You didn't offend me and sorry if I came off offended, the focus of this thread is on importance of light and the only importance of light that I can see is pinning. They grew just beautiful without it
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spacechildo
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Re: If light is so important [Re: spacechildo]
#21284042 - 02/16/15 04:49 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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pinning only? there's 200+ posts here suggesting otherwise!
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Pastywhyte
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Re: If light is so important [Re: spacechildo]
#21284057 - 02/16/15 04:51 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I actually think light has less to do with pinning than was originally thought. I have yet to see anyone show something that indicates pinning is a tropic response to light. I would like to see something like that however.
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Re: If light is so important [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21284077 - 02/16/15 04:54 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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get your conditions wrong and the bottom of your mono will have more pins than the top. light is more important for fruit body performance than pinning imo
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PinPornProducer
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Re: If light is so important [Re: spacechildo]
#21284109 - 02/16/15 04:59 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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And until you have done an experiment, why would you believe any of it. I've seen the results from growing in the dark and the results of pinning in the dark up close and in person so there could be 1000 posts about it and I wouldn't believe them. Witnessing results in person is worth way more than reading about it
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spacechildo
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Re: If light is so important [Re: spacechildo]
#21284113 - 02/16/15 05:00 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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yes, the light is a pinning trigger has sunk down the rank from "major" to minor to secondary, I havent done any tests or screwed up enough with my light schedule to notice any patterns but it wouldnt surprise me if light isnt that important at all (as a pinning trigger).
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Re: If light is so important [Re: bodhisatta]
#21284118 - 02/16/15 05:01 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have noticed more pinning on sides of the cake directed at the light before. personally I consider light to be almost as important as the other pinning triggers
depletion of nutrients from substrate evaporation of moisture from.... high humidity... Light..
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PinPornProducer
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Re: If light is so important [Re: spacechildo]
#21284131 - 02/16/15 05:03 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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One day it's good for you, the next day it's call 1800 bad drug
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bodhisatta 
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PinPornProducer said: And until you have done an experiment, why would you believe any of it. I've seen the results from growing in the dark and the results of pinning in the dark up close and in person so there could be 1000 posts about it and I wouldn't believe them. Witnessing results in person is worth way more than reading about it
my first few grows were in the dark, they looked like shit, then again my method was shit. other people's grown in the dark/improper light shrooms look like shit. you're one of few evidences to the contrary
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Pastywhyte
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If there was a response triggered by light exposure then we would never see tubs or any substrate pin in darkness or the pinset would always be poor. I prefer to think of light as something that is going to aid in colonization and establish a circadian rhythm. In that sense it could help speed pinning up in terms of helping the substrate to achieve full colonization, or have a set rhythm once it is colonized, but I doubt that it directly influences pinning at all. Nothing has been demonstrated to prove that it does but lots of commonly done "experiments" have indicated that its contribution to the pinning response is marginal at best.
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Re: If light is so important [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21284161 - 02/16/15 05:09 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Has anyone gotten a full canopy with 0 light?
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Re: If light is so important [Re: taGyo]
#21284179 - 02/16/15 05:11 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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taGyo said: Has anyone gotten a full canopy with 0 light?
I think budmanman got a decent pinset. A canopy would be hard because cubes with poor lighting tend to be pretty sad affairs with small caps.
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taGyo
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Re: If light is so important [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21284188 - 02/16/15 05:12 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'll lurk around,
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