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fungusrangler
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grain to mono help
#21282595 - 02/16/15 12:32 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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not sure what is happening but I have followed franks 12 and after casing went on i patch partial colonization of casing and lowered temp, introduced FAE, and added 12/12 with a 4' shop light. the only issue I could see possibly is that on a couple occasions the temp rose above 77 in the chamber but it only lasted hours. could this be whats causing my issues
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alot more info on your grow and some pics would help
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What issues are you even talking about...
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like to ask about pics the formats that are available for upload all seem to be movie formats so I dont now how to load them in the message
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After you upload them there will be a BBCode.
Click on the bb code, come back to this forum, right click, paste, submit.
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I will up load pics of my set up and supplies and a pic of my different fruiting methods that's for the help and sorry about the respond time
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this is my fruiting tub for the BRF tek and the monotub that I am trying for the first time I cant remember which guys tek I follow for the design but it was one listed in the thread for a proven tek and design also I have a couple LC in the black pot and a pic up close of some G2G that I have tried as well also seen are two cased trays going in a perlite tub since so far that with the cakes has been pretty dam simple. as I said though for my question the mono is as seen and that has been cased and fruiting conditions applied and nothing been 4 days after case. oh also cause I over due everything the tub in the colonizing hole are azurescens that have gone from wheat sawdust 2 cardboard 2 maple alder chips and i have a two tub cooling system that has been tested at temps from 33 f to 60f so I figured Id give the impossible indoor azures a try. tell you the truth and I know i have yet gotten to the difficult part for the Hammond but they have been the easiest to colonized I have had. sorry for all the info but once again I am excited to be here and would appreciate any help also have pics of supplies and complete set if there needed
Edited by fungusrangler (02/17/15 02:46 AM)
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I am a newb so take my advise with a grain of salt. If I understand correctly you are saying that you waited until your mono was 100% colonized, then cased it. Now 4 days later nothing has happened. If that is your worry, don't worry, 4 days is not much, give it more time. That being said I do not recognize the design on the mono. It might work but it is like nothing I have seen. Usually you have 1 hole on each end up high stuffed loosely and 2 on each long side down at substrate level stuffed tightly. I also do not recognize the design of your FC for the cakes. Most people here recommend a shotgun fruiting chamber. (1/4 holes every 2 inches on all 6 sides with 4-6 inches of perlite). You can find info on it using the search function.
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wall of text 
get a closer pic of the first tub. the g2g jar in last pic is either very over colonized, or bacterial.
of course u didn't get to the difficult part of azurecens dude. its just colonizing now :P
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I don't understand. The tub you're trying to fruit is azurescens?
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Re: grain to mono help [Re: Psilicon]
#21286867 - 02/17/15 08:45 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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In this hobby keep your sentences short. We grow and use drugs, nobody has an attention span for shit.
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monotub= FAE+RH-doing anything=fruits
with what I have what could be the problem
have grown cake four times and with misting and fanning works great
the tek used doesnt matter its the conditions obtained by said tek that is important
can I obtain said conditions with what I have
and thank you four the heads up on four days not being enough will wait
and this is the tek I follow for the tub https://www.shroomology.org/topic/46-how-to-grow-shrooms-in-bulk-monotubs/
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oh yea and close ups of tub and I do thank all for the info on the jars and such that is why I posted but Ill get back to all that later in another thread
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and yea I know not a shroomery tek but in my research the dial in resolution on this tub was the best offering an advanced mycologist the most flexibility, and I am in now way an advanced mycologist but as I have said in past threads I am a physics prof and this became my hobby
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Patience, friend. I think you're doing alright.
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the tub does not look healthy,and you should not have taped your liner. the cakes fc needs holes for air to pass through the perlite. the jars in pic 3 are too full if they are grain too big if they are cakes and remove the foil either way. pic 4 does not look right either but i can't say for sure. good luck though!
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Re: grain to mono help [Re: cronicr]
#21288990 - 02/17/15 03:02 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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the liner is not taped that is micropore on the outside over the holes to lessen or increase air flow i am trying to dial in the right combination for proper RH also one of the reason I said may be why it never fruited holes in the bottom of perlite and i fan and mist and "tub does not look healthy" is why I asked this forum question I am looking for suggestions of why and what you see that says "not looking good"? also once again I have had success with this cake tek so I am not looking for help with this i appreciate the info though
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thanks for the encouragement it sucks having success one way and failure so completely on this tek
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being it's not cubes it is hard to say, all you can do is keep an eye and nose on it
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Re: grain to mono help [Re: cronicr]
#21289070 - 02/17/15 03:06 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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and once agian these are cubes APE to be exact the azurescens are the tub in the colonization pics , the one with the jars the pics of the montub are APE
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if your tub is cubes just keep an eye on it, like i said i can't really put my finger on it atm but it doesn't' look horrible or anything..maybe a little dry
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Re: grain to mono help [Re: cronicr]
#21289306 - 02/17/15 04:00 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'd say to be prepared to spawn, or case that jar. Before doing so, however, after the mycelium is broken up and media closure removed, a good "scent-test" (give the mycelium a wiff) to tell if the sweet mushroomy smell is detected should be employed before proceeding to the next step.
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Re: grain to mono help [Re: cronicr]
#21289369 - 02/17/15 04:17 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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cronicr said: if your tub is cubes just keep an eye on it, like i said i can't really put my finger on it atm but it doesn't' look horrible or anything..maybe a little dry
I think he's trying to say his tub is azurescens.
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fungusrangler said: ..."tub does not look healthy" is why I asked this forum question I am looking for suggestions of why and what you see that says "not looking good"?
I think he's commenting on the fact that it doesn't look fully or evenly colonized. Was your bulk substrate and casing layer at field capacity? Since its a casing layer you don't need to wait for 100% colonization again, but it does look a little oddly uneven, and perhaps dry. Wouldn't hurt to spray it up.
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Quote:
van der griegen said:
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cronicr said: if your tub is cubes just keep an eye on it, like i said i can't really put my finger on it atm but it doesn't' look horrible or anything..maybe a little dry
I think he's trying to say his tub is azurescens.
i sorta thought so but then he said this and it got confusing...
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fungusrangler said: and once agian these are cubes APE to be exact the azurescens are the tub in the colonization pics , the one with the jars the pics of the montub are APE
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Re: grain to mono help [Re: cronicr]
#21289543 - 02/17/15 05:00 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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fungusrangler said: the one with the jars the pics of the montub are APE
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Re: grain to mono help [Re: Psilicon]
#21289669 - 02/17/15 05:23 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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That mono looks all crazy... You have odd holes on the bottom, and a bunch of them. Along with the big holes you have too much fae. I can't even see condensation on the sides. Tape up all the bottom holes and stuff the poly in the big holes a little tighter. Should up the humidity.
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Re: grain to mono help [Re: cronicr]
#21289678 - 02/17/15 05:26 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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cronicr said:
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van der griegen said:
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cronicr said: if your tub is cubes just keep an eye on it, like i said i can't really put my finger on it atm but it doesn't' look horrible or anything..maybe a little dry
I think he's trying to say his tub is azurescens.
i sorta thought so but then he said this and it got confusing...
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fungusrangler said: and once agian these are cubes APE to be exact the azurescens are the tub in the colonization pics , the one with the jars the pics of the montub are APE

Huh??? So the Azures are in the monotub? Or in the jars? Or do you have 1 mono of apes and 1 of Azures? Everyone is confused.
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Re: grain to mono help [Re: gremtu]
#21289696 - 02/17/15 05:30 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: grain to mono help [Re: taGyo]
#21289863 - 02/17/15 06:10 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Neither of your tubs follow the typical standards we usually see at the Shroomery. You may have had success with these tubs, but now you are not.
The tub with the cakes does not seem to be getting enough FAE; I don't see any holes in it and your perlite is shallow. Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC)
The other tub, the one with the holes and stuffing, looks dry. The walls are all dry except where it looks like you may have been misting the substrate. Using tape to cover holes is a hard way to control FAE and RH. I'm not really sure how to fix it except to make a new one. More misting of the substrate may help with drying. Spitball's Monotub Tek
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Edited by SpitballJedi (02/17/15 06:11 PM)
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