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EZ Harvest Monotub
#21281935 - 02/16/15 10:10 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here is a little project I've been thinking about doing. It would make harvest time very quick and easy and the sub would never have to leave the tub. What you guys think?
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Your idea is cool. I can imagine little hinges on one of the long sides so that the tub never really comes fully apart ... just 'hinges open' like a door. That way you'd only have to duct tape three sides and it might be easier to use.
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I like it but duct tape after awhile will get expensive and sticky on your tub. I assume. Maybe find some sort of rubber seal or something..
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: Hashish]
#21282054 - 02/16/15 10:43 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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instead find two tubs that sit inside each other, cut the inner 1 down to 5 inches hight(4ich sub+ 1 inch for casing) so it slots inside the other!! no air gaps round the edge then(easier to control fae andd humidity) attache two bit of string to sides(two holes and knots on the string) of inner tub so you can lift out fro harvest! been doing it for years( dont tell anyone my secret!!)
oneday i will show my lower hole plugs that make dialing in monos less guess work(densitys of polfil) and easy to replicate and adjust. they have with a set density so you only have to make small measurable adjustment to get the frank horrigan 'halos' making it more user friendly and controlable 
also makes filling with sub so much easier and can get it perfect and level so no need for a liner, another eco friendly plus side and no breaking sub when lifting inner tub out!
also i dont tape holes when colonising i use plugs as i hate wasting tape!! i use these- http://www.mocap.co.uk/plastic-plugs-center-pull.html
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The idea itself is sound. I think what he meant to say is this was a concept, what you do in regard to fastening the top of the tub to the bottom could be your own innovation to the concept instead of using duct tape.
Anywho, good idea 3P.
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I would love pics/info on your setup mustangbob
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: TheChief]
#21282088 - 02/16/15 10:50 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Show us some pics mustangbob3. I'm very curious to see what you got going on.
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: MBabble]
#21282109 - 02/16/15 10:54 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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MBabble said: I would love pics/info on your setup mustangbob
i not a big shower of my work but very soon i will be doing a grow show i promised dourd3n very soon and giving away ksss prints like he requested.
you will get to see very soon!! i thought by altering others methods people would not recieve my ideas in the way i would want and would prevoke arguments but as i have been asked i will make sure to explain my setup in detail for that next grow!!
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: TheChief]
#21282152 - 02/16/15 11:02 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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TheChief said: The idea itself is sound. I think what he meant to say is this was a concept, what you do in regard to fastening the top of the tub to the bottom could be your own innovation to the concept instead of using duct tape.
Anywho, good idea 3P. 
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very soon i will be doing a grow show i promised dourd3n very soon and giving away ksss prints like he requested.
If you have any extra prints i would like one if possible. It would be greatly appreciated. i look forward to your "grow show"
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: Hashish]
#21282235 - 02/16/15 11:20 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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very soon i will be doing a grow show i promised dourd3n very soon and giving away ksss prints like he requested.
If you have any extra prints i would like one if possible. It would be greatly appreciated. i look forward to your "grow show"
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: Hashish]
#21282250 - 02/16/15 11:22 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was thinking about this the other day. What about using a cat littler enclosure? You could put your sub and liner in the bottom and then all you'd need to do is mod it to control airflow and it already comes into two piece right where you want it.

I would just silicone the clear door shut and then you even have a window in for light... might not be enough though
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: urthtown]
#21282437 - 02/16/15 12:03 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I like it. I think I would try and find a shoebox or tray that fitted the top of a tote perfectly or at least really close. Then fill the shoebox with the sub, drill the holes in the tote to line up appropriately when flipped over and make it like a dub tub but with dimensions of a mono. Might be neater and if you got them to line up really good you could even bore some small holes in the totes and shoebox and fasten them with wire or something so you could just flip the top over when ya want to harvest. Lots of possibilities here
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I like this. kinda like a dubtub but better
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: blackdust]
#21282574 - 02/16/15 12:27 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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blackdust said: I like this. kinda like a dubtub but better
Right? I have tubs I use over and over, it would be worth investing the time.
Actually yea even duct tape doesnt sound like a bad idea, just cut the tubs and put a line of duct tape around it.
I recently needed more tubs and converted some old S GFCs into mono tubs by just taping up the holes with lines of packing tape, it holds humidity in just fine so I dont see why duct tape wouldn't be as better.
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: mushpunx]
#21282704 - 02/16/15 12:52 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cool thought. I was thinking about something that could be done on the cheap and easy, and this is what I've come up with. Still have to test out the idea, but it could work.
Cut a piece of stiff cardboard, roughly the same size as the bottom of the tub. Now cut a few pieces of ribbon or string about 4-5 feet long and lay them in the tub with the ends hanging outside. Lay the cardboard in the tub, over the ribbons and then just line the tub as normal. Once you're ready to harvest, this part might be a team sport, but you would just grab the ends of the ribbon/sting and lift the sub out of the tub. Granted you might need to cut any tape you have used on your tub liner to stick it to the sides, but hopefully you get the basic idea.
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Fungus Mountain said: Cool thought. I was thinking about something that could be done on the cheap and easy, and this is what I've come up with. Still have to test out the idea, but it could work.
Cut a piece of stiff cardboard, roughly the same size as the bottom of the tub. Now cut a few pieces of ribbon or string about 4-5 feet long and lay them in the tub with the ends hanging outside. Lay the cardboard in the tub, over the ribbons and then just line the tub as normal. Once you're ready to harvest, this part might be a team sport, but you would just grab the ends of the ribbon/sting and lift the sub out of the tub. Granted you might need to cut any tape you have used on your tub liner to stick it to the sides, but hopefully you get the basic idea.
Totally understand, I was actually thinking about a rack made of metal coat hangers last year that would be placed under the liner before spawning with pull handles in every corner, same concept as what you are talking about
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I think I might give it some real world testing. Cardboard and string are easy to come by.
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Hell yea man, I have some extra tubs, I think next grow-a-round I'll try the cut tub idea also
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I think I might give it some real world testing. Cardboard and string are easy to come by.
Maybe try and find something more sturdy, you may end up breaking the sub in half because the cardboard is thin and also more than likely going to be wet from condensation. Maybe cut out plastic from a tub lid
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I wonder if 1/8" MDF isn't the way to go?!? Could even run a coat of seal on it if the moisture became an issue.
If you used a plywood type material, you could even drill holes in the corners and just mount the string/ribbon thru those holes.
Hummmmm......
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Another way that might be simpler and work "better" would be (I hope I can explain this).
Envision your 2 tubs nested one inside the other... Make the outside one your "bottom", cut it down to just leave say 5" for the bottom.
Then cut the bottom out of the inside tub to where it rests inside the other one to a level where you get your overlap for the "seal", but you cut enough of the bottom off that it fits with the cut edge just above your substrate level.
That way, for harvest, you simple pull the top tub off...no strings, no tape.
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: MBabble]
#21283325 - 02/16/15 02:49 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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For a tub on a shelf that would work, I understand what you are saying. But for me, I grow in this  So I need something that holds the bottom to the top so I can lift it out of the grow box
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You don't want wood in the mix. Wood can trich out in those type of conditions real quick.
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If you did the cut tub inside a tub idea you wouldn't necessarily need string or anything to get it out. Just leave like a 4 inch wide piece going up past your top holes, cut the same size holes in it, then when you wanna pull it out just bend a little inward and grab through those holes.
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: Grey]
#21283550 - 02/16/15 03:35 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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ingclassy said: If you did the cut tub inside a tub idea you wouldn't necessarily need string or anything to get it out. Just leave like a 4 inch wide piece going up past your top holes, cut the same size holes in it, then when you wanna pull it out just bend a little inward and grab through those holes.
I like it
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Pastywhyte said: You don't want wood in the mix. Wood can trich out in those type of conditions real quick.
Fair point to consider. I'm just throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks. That said, cardboard is not a good option and neither is wood. I imagine a piece of Plexiglas, or even the bottom of another sacrificial tub might work as well.
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Benefits of this versus just pulling it out with the liner?
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: taGyo]
#21283705 - 02/16/15 04:03 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think that's the whole idea of the thread. Come up with another way to pull out the sub-block without having to rely on the liner and add some support so it doesn't break upon manipulation. Upon further consideration, I think you could use some duct tape and make handle flaps that are attached to your liner, just tuck them out of the way when fruiting, and when needed just pull up the sub-block using your nifty duct tape handles. Doesn't do anything for added support though.
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PinPornProducer said: Here is a little project I've been thinking about doing. It would make harvest time very quick and easy and the sub would never have to leave the tub. What you guys think?

This way would also make using a liner much easier
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@FM,
I get it, I'm just trying to get people to generate ideas. For instance, I can see why someone wouldn't do this with a liner because you can pull it out. Then again I've cracked a few subs doing that dumbass method so I'm all for changing shit up.
When you post an idea you also have to show how it's better then what we were doing before otherwise people go "Ha.. Cool." and never do it.
@PPP,
Honestly that sounds like a great idea but as mentioned earlier duct tape would get expensive. Have to find some way to attach it and be able to remove it without some exterior force while still maintaining the seal necessary for colonization and fruiting.
Zip ties were my next best guess but who really wants to fuck with zip ties all day?
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Why not just use dubtubs?
or 2 liners with something sturdy between them for support so your sub doesn't crack when removed.
I personally just harvest right in the tub and don't remove unless its small enough to not break.
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MBabble said: I would love pics/info on your setup mustangbob
i not a big shower of my work but very soon i will be doing a grow ...
Not a shower, but a grower amirite?
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: taGyo]
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I get it, I'm just trying to get people to generate ideas. For instance, I can see why someone wouldn't do this with a liner because you can pull it out. Then again I've cracked a few subs doing that dumbass method so I'm all for changing shit up.
When you post an idea you also have to show how it's better then what we were doing before otherwise people go "Ha.. Cool." and never do it.
@PPP,
Honestly that sounds like a great idea but as mentioned earlier duct tape would get expensive. Have to find some way to attach it and be able to remove it without some exterior force while still maintaining the seal necessary for colonization and fruiting.
Zip ties were my next best guess but who really wants to fuck with zip ties all day?
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I honestly don't mind buying duct tape for this. A roll would last a long time and would act as both a seal and a latch
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Cutting the tub isn't a bad idea. But you'll have to pick it up from the bottom. Tape won't support the weight of the sub if you pick it by handles or the lip at the top under the cover. Maybe hinges on one side as someone else suggested, and 1-2 loop lock type things on the other to hold it together.
Cutting another tub at 4-5 inches to fit inside is a waste of a tub and money.
A piece of wood could work if you polyurethane it. Anything that can soak in water unless treated will probably be ripe with contams.
Line a turkey pan and put that in with a a second liner underneath for lifting.
Dubtubs... then you're buying two tubs for one project.
What's the normal way of removing a sub? Tip it to the side and carefully slide it out?
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I grab it by the liner and lift it out.
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yep. my substrates shrink about an inch all the way around and you can easily grab the liner and lift it out.
lifting a sub out or exposing it as discussed is often the best way to harvest a loaded substrate.
edit. pic of substrate out of the tub for harvest 
this is probably a 3rd flush. look how much the substrate has shrunk.
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Pastywhyte said: I grab it by the liner and lift it out.
I do that with some..if they feel strong enough on the first tug.Small ones like my mini mini lol. What about turning the tub on its side and pulling the sub so it winds up resting on the side of the tub? I haven't tried it though. Just an idea that came to mind while reading this thread.
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taGyo said: @FM,
I get it, I'm just trying to get people to generate ideas. For instance, I can see why someone wouldn't do this with a liner because you can pull it out. Then again I've cracked a few subs doing that dumbass method so I'm all for changing shit up.
When you post an idea you also have to show how it's better then what we were doing before otherwise people go "Ha.. Cool." and never do it.
@PPP,
Honestly that sounds like a great idea but as mentioned earlier duct tape would get expensive. Have to find some way to attach it and be able to remove it without some exterior force while still maintaining the seal necessary for colonization and fruiting.
Zip ties were my next best guess but who really wants to fuck with zip ties all day?


I think something like this or a latch design would be ideal.
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: taGyo]
#21284183 - 02/16/15 05:11 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you started with two shallow tubs and made a dub tub you would have the strong plastic lip of each tub to fasten hinges and latches to. Just put a piano hinge along the back and latches on the front.
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: taGyo]
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I've thought about similar designs too. The tape is gong to be more of a PITA than taking the sub out.
Most of the stuff I've tried to come up with for this made me feel like I was back in time building complicated Rubs Goldberg devices as a noob.
I didn't read all the posts so I don't know if anybody mentioned it.
You could get smaller trays that fit nicely in the mono and then just remove the trays for harvest. The smaller trays are easier to clean in your sink too.
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MBabble said: I would love pics/info on your setup mustangbob
i not a big shower of my work but very soon i will be doing a grow ...
Not a shower, but a grower amirite? 
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MBabble said: I would love pics/info on your setup mustangbob
i not a big shower of my work but very soon i will be doing a grow ...
Not a shower, but a grower amirite? 
i meant show-er as in showing off as i never really had anything i thought was worth adding and showing in a grow, as you all do a great job of it!!
i dont grow as much as most of you guys!! lol one mono tub will give me 6-10 oz and that is personal so lasts me 6-12 months depending on how greedy i am lol
i thought as i was giving away prints people would want to see were the prints came from.
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Cutting another tub at 4-5 inches to fit inside is a waste of a tub and money.
not a waste as its reusable many, many hundred of times and if it gets rid of platic liners (they cost) that go it thae trash its a bonus in my opinion
EDIT: I think i stole the inner tub idea from hippychick years ago tbh
Spitballjedi- i do it that way!! it works well for the reasons i explained in my first post.
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I re-use all my liners for a long time 
They're not damaged after a spawn run.
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: taGyo]
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taGyo said: I re-use all my liners for a long time 
They're not damaged after a spawn run.

you just started growing Gyo.  I've been trying not reply to your comments but I gotta bust your balls on this on bro.
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: blackdust]
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Check how many tubs I've done,
I haven't cut liners since,
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taGyo
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: taGyo]
#21286969 - 02/17/15 09:11 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oooh I see,
The "long time" part .
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secretagent
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Quote:
mustangbob3 said: -response-
I was referring to
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mustangbob3
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Quote:
secretagent said:
Quote:
mustangbob3 said: -response-
I was referring to 
not sure i understand?? 
are you calling me a wanker lol insult?
Edited by mustangbob3 (02/17/15 11:53 AM)
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