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Fungus Mountain
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I wonder if 1/8" MDF isn't the way to go?!? Could even run a coat of seal on it if the moisture became an issue.
If you used a plywood type material, you could even drill holes in the corners and just mount the string/ribbon thru those holes.
Hummmmm......
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Edited by Fungus Mountain (02/16/15 02:41 PM)
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MBabble
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Another way that might be simpler and work "better" would be (I hope I can explain this).
Envision your 2 tubs nested one inside the other... Make the outside one your "bottom", cut it down to just leave say 5" for the bottom.
Then cut the bottom out of the inside tub to where it rests inside the other one to a level where you get your overlap for the "seal", but you cut enough of the bottom off that it fits with the cut edge just above your substrate level.
That way, for harvest, you simple pull the top tub off...no strings, no tape.
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: MBabble]
#21283325 - 02/16/15 02:49 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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For a tub on a shelf that would work, I understand what you are saying. But for me, I grow in this  So I need something that holds the bottom to the top so I can lift it out of the grow box
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You don't want wood in the mix. Wood can trich out in those type of conditions real quick.
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If you did the cut tub inside a tub idea you wouldn't necessarily need string or anything to get it out. Just leave like a 4 inch wide piece going up past your top holes, cut the same size holes in it, then when you wanna pull it out just bend a little inward and grab through those holes.
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: Grey]
#21283550 - 02/16/15 03:35 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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ingclassy said: If you did the cut tub inside a tub idea you wouldn't necessarily need string or anything to get it out. Just leave like a 4 inch wide piece going up past your top holes, cut the same size holes in it, then when you wanna pull it out just bend a little inward and grab through those holes.
I like it
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Fungus Mountain
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Pastywhyte said: You don't want wood in the mix. Wood can trich out in those type of conditions real quick.
Fair point to consider. I'm just throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks. That said, cardboard is not a good option and neither is wood. I imagine a piece of Plexiglas, or even the bottom of another sacrificial tub might work as well.
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taGyo
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Benefits of this versus just pulling it out with the liner?
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: taGyo]
#21283705 - 02/16/15 04:03 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think that's the whole idea of the thread. Come up with another way to pull out the sub-block without having to rely on the liner and add some support so it doesn't break upon manipulation. Upon further consideration, I think you could use some duct tape and make handle flaps that are attached to your liner, just tuck them out of the way when fruiting, and when needed just pull up the sub-block using your nifty duct tape handles. Doesn't do anything for added support though.
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PinPornProducer said: Here is a little project I've been thinking about doing. It would make harvest time very quick and easy and the sub would never have to leave the tub. What you guys think?

This way would also make using a liner much easier
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taGyo
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@FM,
I get it, I'm just trying to get people to generate ideas. For instance, I can see why someone wouldn't do this with a liner because you can pull it out. Then again I've cracked a few subs doing that dumbass method so I'm all for changing shit up.
When you post an idea you also have to show how it's better then what we were doing before otherwise people go "Ha.. Cool." and never do it.
@PPP,
Honestly that sounds like a great idea but as mentioned earlier duct tape would get expensive. Have to find some way to attach it and be able to remove it without some exterior force while still maintaining the seal necessary for colonization and fruiting.
Zip ties were my next best guess but who really wants to fuck with zip ties all day?
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Why not just use dubtubs?
or 2 liners with something sturdy between them for support so your sub doesn't crack when removed.
I personally just harvest right in the tub and don't remove unless its small enough to not break.
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Quote:
mustangbob3 said:
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MBabble said: I would love pics/info on your setup mustangbob
i not a big shower of my work but very soon i will be doing a grow ...
Not a shower, but a grower amirite?
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Re: EZ Harvest Monotub [Re: taGyo]
#21283865 - 02/16/15 04:29 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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taGyo said: @FM,
I get it, I'm just trying to get people to generate ideas. For instance, I can see why someone wouldn't do this with a liner because you can pull it out. Then again I've cracked a few subs doing that dumbass method so I'm all for changing shit up.
When you post an idea you also have to show how it's better then what we were doing before otherwise people go "Ha.. Cool." and never do it.
@PPP,
Honestly that sounds like a great idea but as mentioned earlier duct tape would get expensive. Have to find some way to attach it and be able to remove it without some exterior force while still maintaining the seal necessary for colonization and fruiting.
Zip ties were my next best guess but who really wants to fuck with zip ties all day?
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I honestly don't mind buying duct tape for this. A roll would last a long time and would act as both a seal and a latch
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Mushroom_J
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Cutting the tub isn't a bad idea. But you'll have to pick it up from the bottom. Tape won't support the weight of the sub if you pick it by handles or the lip at the top under the cover. Maybe hinges on one side as someone else suggested, and 1-2 loop lock type things on the other to hold it together.
Cutting another tub at 4-5 inches to fit inside is a waste of a tub and money.
A piece of wood could work if you polyurethane it. Anything that can soak in water unless treated will probably be ripe with contams.
Line a turkey pan and put that in with a a second liner underneath for lifting.
Dubtubs... then you're buying two tubs for one project.
What's the normal way of removing a sub? Tip it to the side and carefully slide it out?
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Pastywhyte
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I grab it by the liner and lift it out.
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yep. my substrates shrink about an inch all the way around and you can easily grab the liner and lift it out.
lifting a sub out or exposing it as discussed is often the best way to harvest a loaded substrate.
edit. pic of substrate out of the tub for harvest 
this is probably a 3rd flush. look how much the substrate has shrunk.
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Mushroom_J
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Pastywhyte said: I grab it by the liner and lift it out.
I do that with some..if they feel strong enough on the first tug.Small ones like my mini mini lol. What about turning the tub on its side and pulling the sub so it winds up resting on the side of the tub? I haven't tried it though. Just an idea that came to mind while reading this thread.
Put a car jack under it
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taGyo
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PinPornProducer said:
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taGyo said: @FM,
I get it, I'm just trying to get people to generate ideas. For instance, I can see why someone wouldn't do this with a liner because you can pull it out. Then again I've cracked a few subs doing that dumbass method so I'm all for changing shit up.
When you post an idea you also have to show how it's better then what we were doing before otherwise people go "Ha.. Cool." and never do it.
@PPP,
Honestly that sounds like a great idea but as mentioned earlier duct tape would get expensive. Have to find some way to attach it and be able to remove it without some exterior force while still maintaining the seal necessary for colonization and fruiting.
Zip ties were my next best guess but who really wants to fuck with zip ties all day?


I think something like this or a latch design would be ideal.
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