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OfflineChiefThunderbong
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Bible verse about suffering of innocents
    #2127654 - 11/21/03 04:35 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I read I verse from the bible (prolly was here) where someone asked god why the innocent good people suffer and he basically responded who are you to question the allmighty. If someone could find the part I'm talkin about, I'd greatly appreciate it.


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Re: Bible verse about suffering of innocents [Re: ChiefThunderbong]
    #2127686 - 11/21/03 04:50 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

This the one you're talkin about?

Romans 9
18Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.
19One of you will say to me: "Then why does God still blame us? For who resists his will?" 20But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? "Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, 'Why did you make me like this?' "[8] 21Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use?
22What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath--prepared for destruction? 23What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory-- 24even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles?


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Re: Bible verse about suffering of innocents [Re: kb73]
    #2127692 - 11/21/03 04:52 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

BTW, good source for lookin up stuff like that is Bible Gateway. You can search using keywords and stuff.

http://bible.gospelcom.net/



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Re: Bible verse about suffering of innocents [Re: kb73]
    #2127696 - 11/21/03 04:54 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Thats not it, it's a conversation between someone and god....I wish I could remember who.


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Re: Bible verse about suffering of innocents [Re: ChiefThunderbong]
    #2127738 - 11/21/03 05:23 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Father Maxi: "Friends, we gather in this place to mourn the victims of yesterday's tragedy: nine good people who were run over in the street by an elderly woman driver.
It is sometimes hard, in times like these, to understand God's way. Why would he allow nine innocent people to be run down in the prime of their lives by a senior citizen who, perhaps, shouldn't be driving? It is then that we must understand, God's sense of humor is very different from our own. He does not laugh at the simple "man walks into a bar" joke. No, God needs complex irony and subtle farcical twists that seem macabre to you and me. All that we can hope for is that God got his good laugh and a tragedy such as this will never happen again."
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I don't know why people would even want to believe in a God. He must surely be an asshole if he lets so many people suffer for so long.


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Re: Bible verse about suffering of innocents [Re: kb73]
    #2127782 - 11/21/03 05:46 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I found it! Job 38....it's not quite the same as the version I had before though.


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Re: Bible verse about suffering of innocents [Re: ChiefThunderbong]
    #2127869 - 11/21/03 06:41 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

You can change the version of the text by clicking from the dropdown list at the top of the page.


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Re: Bible verse about suffering of innocents [Re: kb73]
    #2128544 - 11/22/03 01:33 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

On one hand there is Freewill.

On the other hand there are miracles.

WHY> did God make this hell.  I don't know.  But the next time I see him I'll ask.  :grin: 


Edited by medicinebag (11/22/03 01:34 AM)


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Re: Bible verse about suffering of innocents [Re: medicinebag]
    #2128585 - 11/22/03 02:07 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

the bible has a lot of stupid things in it

I don't know the passage, but there is a quote about how all man's knowledge is foolishness in comparison to god. Fuck that. I like the technological advances of mankind. The bible was the "truth" 2000 years ago, but it's time to evolve our ideas and get past this arcane crap


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Re: Bible verse about suffering of innocents [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2128692 - 11/22/03 03:58 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I like the idea of a holy book.. too bad it sucks


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Re: Bible verse about suffering of innocents [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #2128778 - 11/22/03 07:14 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

This passage always made me a doubter of the whole "loving god" thing...

"Was not Esau Jacob's brother?" the LORD says. "Yet I have loved Jacob, 3 but Esau I have hated, and I have turned his mountains into a wasteland and left his inheritance to the desert jackals."


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Re: Bible verse about suffering of innocents [Re: bigfatdork]
    #2129185 - 11/22/03 03:31 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

"Life's a bitch and so am I." -- God


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