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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21274560 - 02/14/15 07:41 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Why do you think education only happens in college?

Trickle down economics does work and please tell me just exactly what economic experience the current socialist fucktard in the Oval Office, who you consistently support, has?





David fuck'n Stockman says it doesn't work and he invented it.

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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21274565 - 02/14/15 07:43 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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College is not the only source of an education and can in fact do more harm than good considering the idiocy that is so rampant on college campuses these days.



Idiocy?  Such as???



http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/20-completely-ridiculous-college-courses-being-offered-at-u-s-universities
http://www.onlineuniversities.com/blog/2009/10/100-hilarious-college-courses-that-really-exist/
http://mrconservative.com/2013/06/19016-10-absurd-courses-taught-at-liberal-colleges/
http://www.mandatory.com/2013/01/31/the-stupidest-college-courses/
http://jimfishertruecrime.blogspot.com/2012/03/majoring-in-stupid-ridiculous-college.html

I googled stupid college courses and got over 10 million hits.  I am sure there is some overlap.



The article should have been called college courses with clever titles.  The very first one, for example, "What if Harry Potter Is Real?" has nothing to do with Harry Potter.  It's a clever name for a course that might be over your head.


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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21274596 - 02/14/15 07:49 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Trickle down economics does work



You obviously weren't a business or econ major.

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please tell me just exactly what economic experience the current socialist fucktard in the Oval Office, who you consistently support, has?



Let me repeat what I've been saying for you:
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the more educated one is, the more likely one is to believe in anything that has an experts consensus.




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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21274615 - 02/14/15 07:53 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Perhaps putting it in a rhyme...



You're the only here not able to follow the conversation, so I won't waste anymore time.  :shrug:


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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #21274637 - 02/14/15 07:58 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I have time.

What part of the job requires a degree?

How does Walker not having a degree equate to "Republicans just don't seem to like science or education no more"?


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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: sweeper54]
    #21274645 - 02/14/15 07:59 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

“It is not surprising, then,” Stockman concludes, “that during the last bubble (from 2002 to 2006) the top 1 percent of Americans — paid mainly from the Wall Street casino — received two-thirds of the gain in national income, while the bottom 90 percent — mainly dependent on Main Street’s shrinking economy — got only 12 percent. This growing wealth gap is not the market’s fault. It’s the decaying fruit of bad economic policy.”

http://flaglerlive.com/8577/david-stockman-reagan-nixon-bush-trickledown/

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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #21274648 - 02/14/15 08:00 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Apparently your education has not encompassed much reading comprehension.  I said

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I don't think college is a particularly good place to get an education




Evolution is taught in high school biology.  Usually sophomore year.  Or didn't you know that?



Let me repeat for you :facepalm::
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The more educated one is, the more likely one is to believe in evolution.



It doesn't matter if they teach evolution in kindergarten; the people that go to college are more likely to accept it because they finally begin to understand why that theory is accepted.



Does Scott Walker ascribe to the theory of evolution?  And why do you think education is only found in college?


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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21274651 - 02/14/15 08:01 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Why do you think education only happens in college?

Trickle down economics does work and please tell me just exactly what economic experience the current socialist fucktard in the Oval Office, who you consistently support, has?




2 things: I agree with you can get educated outside college. OJT, failure, there are other ways of learning.

As much as I hate answering a a question with a question, how does or has trickle down economics worked?

Reagan = a widening income gap and stangnant wages and to this day the right doesn't have a solution to this, well other than blame someone else.

My opinion but if I'm missing something..


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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: Citizen X] * 1
    #21274672 - 02/14/15 08:07 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Trickle down economics does work



You obviously weren't a business or econ major.





Talk about playing the role of Captain Obvious with that statement.

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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: sweeper54]
    #21274673 - 02/14/15 08:07 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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“It is not surprising, then,” Stockman concludes, “that during the last bubble (from 2002 to 2006) the top 1 percent of Americans — paid mainly from the Wall Street casino — received two-thirds of the gain in national income, while the bottom 90 percent — mainly dependent on Main Street’s shrinking economy — got only 12 percent. This growing wealth gap is not the market’s fault. It’s the decaying fruit of bad economic policy.”





Tell me in your own words what trickle down economics is.


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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: elax420]
    #21274682 - 02/14/15 08:09 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Trickle down economics does work



You obviously weren't a business or econ major.





Talk about playing the role of Captain Obvious with that statement.




No, I was a business owner.  So was my wife.  Money trickled down to us from richer people who spent it.  See, I don't need to learn that in college.  I live it.


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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: Citizen X]
    #21274689 - 02/14/15 08:11 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Why do you think education only happens in college?

Trickle down economics does work and please tell me just exactly what economic experience the current socialist fucktard in the Oval Office, who you consistently support, has?




2 things: I agree with you can get educated outside college. OJT, failure, there are other ways of learning.

As much as I hate answering a a question with a question, how does or has trickle down economics worked?

Reagan = a widening income gap and stangnant wages and to this day the right doesn't have a solution to this, well other than blame someone else.

My opinion but if I'm missing something..




Reagan was 30 years ago.  The income gap has widened since Obama was President.  Socialism, illegal immigration and the decline of the nuclear family is to blame for the stagnation of wages


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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21274718 - 02/14/15 08:18 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Trickle down economics does work



You obviously weren't a business or econ major.





Talk about playing the role of Captain Obvious with that statement.




No, I was a business owner.  So was my wife.  Money trickled down to us from richer people who spent it.  See, I don't need to learn that in college.  I live it.






Bro you were a small business owner.
Don’t over play your hand

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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21274728 - 02/14/15 08:20 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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I was a business owner.  So was my wife.  Money trickled down to us from richer people who spent it.  See, I don't need to learn that in college.  I live it.



Most businesses would be far better off if everyone spent money on them, and not just the rich.


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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21274746 - 02/14/15 08:25 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Reagan was 30 years ago.  The income gap has widened since Obama was President.



That's because Obama hasn't reversed many trickle down policies.

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Socialism and illegal immigration have gone down.  I'd be interested to see your statistics to back up your claim that the decline of the nuclear family impacts wages.


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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #21274749 - 02/14/15 08:25 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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I was a business owner.  So was my wife.  Money trickled down to us from richer people who spent it.  See, I don't need to learn that in college.  I live it.



Most businesses would be far better off if everyone spent money on them, and not just the rich.




I happen to be closer to the top of the food chain than most.  I made money and I spent it and thus those further down benefited.  I also actually created something.  I wasn't replacing a broken window.

1 rich guy hires 5 contractors who hire 50 workers who spend their money.  At every level of transaction the government gets its tax cut.  Working.  Now what happens when the government takes that money and gives it to some shit for doing nothing?  How much in taxes does that dead end pay?


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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #21274764 - 02/14/15 08:29 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Reagan was 30 years ago.  The income gap has widened since Obama was President.



That's because Obama hasn't reversed many trickle down policies.




ITt's so sad that you have to blame a guy from 30 years ago for your hero's failures.  Pitiful grasping.
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Socialism and illegal immigration have gone down.  I'd be interested to see your statistics to back up your claim that the decline of the nuclear family impacts wages.




Don't change my posts.  Desperate women will take any wage they can get.


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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #21274784 - 02/14/15 08:35 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I dont agree with the shitty economics but i agree with his premise. Its stupid to penalize economic success and reward failure. You ever notice how every little ghetto rat has braces? Do you know how much braces cost? Ya our tax money is paying for that :lol:




It doesn’t excuse the mega rich (fucking mitt romney, who pays less in taxes than like all of us)  from hiding income, and utilizing tax havens.


I hate it when people bitch about taxing the rich. The people who bear the largest tax burden are the upper middle class. If anyone deserves a tax break its the people who just barely broke through (100k-500k a year) After 500k i stop losing sympathy because if you dont have some serious net worth when you are pulling in 500k a year you just suck at personal accounting, and somehow lucked your way into a goldmine.

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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21274785 - 02/14/15 08:35 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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I made money and I spent it and thus those further down benefited.



I didn't say no one benefited.  I said they would have benefited even more if more people had money to spend on them.

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I also actually created something.  I wasn't replacing a broken window.



You should know from many past discussions that I don't support breaking windows.

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1 rich guy hires 5 contractors who hire 50 workers who spend their money.  At every level of transaction the government gets its tax cut.  Working.  Now what happens when the government takes that money and gives it to some shit for doing nothing?  How much in taxes does that dead end pay?



Who do you think provides business for the rich guy to hire 50 workers?  The more people that have money, the more money is spent, the more people are hired, the more taxes are collected.

We saw in World War II how effective Government spending was to the economy.


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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #21274818 - 02/14/15 08:45 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

What he is saying is some stuffy jerk off Romney type hires 5 contracts to build his private island retreat for his mistress. Those contractors then go on to hire 50 blue collar dudes, to do the labor. Then those 50 blue collar dudes go buy some Budweiser and food for their families after work and the money goes full circle.

The problem with trickle down is that it sounds good in theory, but it really just means I’m not going to tax the guys who donated to my campaign because they are “job creators” then they hoard that wealth in Switzerland, and the government misses out on a bunch of revenue

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