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Invisiblemedicinebag
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3 ingredient Ayahuasca(mushrooms,rue,brugmansia).
    #2123903 - 11/19/03 11:09 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)



How many of yall make the N.A. Ayahuasca? I usually add about 7-10 grams of freshly ground rue seeds, vie mortor/pestal, 7 grams of Cubies, also ground M/P. Smoke is blown to cleanse all tools, cauldron and work area. Cauldron is placed over camp fire for about a half a day. The final brew is strained through a clean cloth. So far this "brew" is very intense. This is enough for several particapants. I usually drink the ayahuasca while still somewhat warm. I don't like it when it is cold. Bitter. It always is hard to get the rue down. I can hold many mushroom in my mouth for hours and the bitterness doesn't bother me. I dip copenhagen and that bitterness doesn't bother me, BUt that rue is some bitter stuff.

So to the Brugmansia. I am thinking about adding one Brugmansia leaf into the mix for a little extra "kick". LOL.

I have a Bruagmansia tree. And have smoked the leaves but never ingested them or made a salve. Has anyone here drank a tea made from Brugmansia leaves? later.

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Re: 3 ingredient Ayahuasca(mushrooms,rue,brugmansia). [Re: medicinebag]
    #2123929 - 11/19/03 11:23 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Wow that brew sounds like it would yield quite an experience! How was it?


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Re: 3 ingredient Ayahuasca(mushrooms,rue,brugmansia). [Re: medicinebag]
    #2123934 - 11/19/03 11:25 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

i would check about tropanes and maois first before doing this. it doesnt sound like a very pleasent or safe combonation.


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Re: 3 ingredient Ayahuasca(mushrooms,rue,brugmansia). [Re: Infrared]
    #2124008 - 11/19/03 11:56 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Brugansia is sometimes added to the different South American Ayahuascas. I agree with you. That an Maoi is a powerful potentiator. I fast and follow the Maoi diet a day before and after. What about just the Mushrooms and the Brugmansia? that should be Physically safer.


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Re: 3 ingredient Ayahuasca(mushrooms,rue,brugmansia). [Re: medicinebag]
    #2124017 - 11/20/03 12:02 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

mushrooms and brugmansia  should be fine ( well about as fine as any tropane experience can be). harmaline is pretty safe alone or when used with tryptamines. but i was just saying watch out, because i am sure you are aware of what tropane alkaloids can do alone, now think of what would happen if they got extended and intensified by an maoi. again i dont know for sure the specifics of tropanes+maois, but you have to be very careful when using any tropane alkaloid in any way. otherwise happy sailing :smile:


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Re: 3 ingredient Ayahuasca(mushrooms,rue,brugmansia). [Re: medicinebag]
    #2124062 - 11/20/03 12:23 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Bitter. It always is hard to get the rue down. I can hold many mushroom in my mouth for hours and the bitterness doesn't bother me. I dip copenhagen and that bitterness doesn't bother me, BUt that rue is some bitter stuff.




You might also want to extract the rue in order to ease consumption (or at the very least powder the rue and insert into veggie-caps). You can do a crude extraction to make a smokeable material. Very easy to do. Might make things easier :thumbup:   


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Re: 3 ingredient Ayahuasca(mushrooms,rue,brugmansia). [Re: Xochitl]
    #2124152 - 11/20/03 01:42 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the replies.


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Re: 3 ingredient Ayahuasca(mushrooms,rue,brugmansia). [Re: medicinebag]
    #2124993 - 11/20/03 02:04 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

how do you make the smokable rue?


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Re: 3 ingredient Ayahuasca(mushrooms,rue,brugmansia). [Re: Wysefool]
    #2127080 - 11/21/03 12:31 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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BlackZombie said:
how do you make the smokable rue?



(UTFSE???)
grind seeds
soak in warm vinegar, strain & save liquid
re-soak marc in frsh warm vinegar, strain & combine vinegars
cook down vingar liquid to reduce volume
add 100 grams salt per liter liquid
chill in fridge overnight & collect solid precipitate (often they are yellowish needles --- hydrochloride salts of harmine & harmaline)(oral dose of harmala HCl salts ~ 125 - 300 mg; nominal = 167 mg, or 1/6 gram; take in divided doses to avoid nausea)
dissolve the harmala HCl salts into distilled water
add laundry ammonia (unscented, non-sudsing) to solution until precipitation ceases (the ppt is harmine/harmaline freebase)
rinse with icy cold dH2O
dry brownish mud to a chunky powder... this is smokable harmine (& harmaline) freebase; active dose ~ 20 - 50 mg...
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(if you want shiny crystals of the FB, dissolve the FB powder into a suitable solvent (ethanol, isopropanol, acetone, whatever) & allow the liquid to evaporate; oftentimes some lovely crystals will result...)


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