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Help the Peyote!!
    #2126757 - 11/21/03 07:20 AM (13 years, 22 days ago)

I recieved this plant a few months ago. It just started looking very sick. I may have overwatered it about 10 days ago. The plant is very squishy as well as the root stock.

What is wrong with it?

How can I help it?

In June:


Now:


Help!

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Re: Help the Peyote!! [Re: Joshua]
    #2126769 - 11/21/03 07:49 AM (13 years, 22 days ago)

joshua,

is the pup growing out of the same rootstock?


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Re: Help the Peyote!! [Re: comario2]
    #2126790 - 11/21/03 08:24 AM (13 years, 22 days ago)

My guess is that there will be little orange spots on the inside of that peyote. I've had the same symptoms on my Peyotes this summer and I lost about 20!! I could save some infected ones by cutting of most of the infected parts, letting the wounds heal/dry and repotting them.
Looks to me like you can save the small pup and maybe lose the rest. :frown:
I'm very sorry to bring you such bad news!! It must be hard (I know I had a hard time losing so much peyotes this summer, which I was nurturing for 4 years).
But anyway, don't take this reply as the only possibility, this is only my  guess and I'm no expert!! Please wait for other peoples reply's as I'm not 100% sure that this is also what's happening with your lopho.
Good luck! 


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Re: Help the Peyote!! [Re: Funkey]
    #2126844 - 11/21/03 09:18 AM (13 years, 22 days ago)

josh:
this is not a fungus, this is a cactus!
emergency! graft the pup and pray for the rest of it.
i agree with funkey on the possible infection thoughts...
good luck with your baby.


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Re: Help the Peyote!! [Re: felixhigh]
    #2126956 - 11/21/03 11:20 AM (13 years, 22 days ago)

This is not an overwatering symptom then?

The pup is from the same stock.

Can I cut both the pup, my graftor and super glue at the edges?

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Re: Help the Peyote!! [Re: Joshua]
    #2127099 - 11/21/03 12:38 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

yes, it looks like overwatering.
i was to edit before but i had to run for my priorities but:

1 - is the big button soft? (it seems obvious)
2 - are the roots soft or softening anywhere?
3 - superglue is not the best attachment for grafting! make sure you've read enough about it ( http://www.cactus-mall.com/ccc/ ).
i'd rather use messy nylon bands than super bonder. it works but is not 'the shit'.

>>> if the roots are not soft, cut out the soft button (and a little of the roots it's attached to/infected area)

always use nice sterilized sharp blades...


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Re: Help the Peyote!! [Re: felixhigh]
    #2127115 - 11/21/03 12:46 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

The top of the root stock is infact a bit soft. The buttons are soft as well.

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Re: Help the Peyote!! [Re: Joshua]
    #2127655 - 11/21/03 04:36 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

both buttons are soft?
suspend grafting.
cut the water and pray, it might recover.
let us know then!


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Re: Help the Peyote!! [Re: Joshua]
    #2127812 - 11/21/03 06:08 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

Always start your cacti in sterile or new potting soil. Make sure it's not all hummus and perlite which hold moisture and/or fungus. Don't ever grow cacti in old soil except if they're going into the ground and it has alot of lime. That soil looks pretty heavy. Maybe I'm wrong. You need very sandy alkaline soil. For moisture retention I like volcanic rock which is pretty sterile and also, don't use regular 20 20 20 fertilizer. Use low nitro or just get cactus fert. Pull the peyotes out gently, rinse them in light bleach water and then let them dry for a week. Then repot them in new pots and new cactus soil. That's the best you can probably do.



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Re: Help the Peyote!! [Re: Joshua]
    #2128899 - 11/22/03 10:30 AM (13 years, 21 days ago)

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Re: Help the Peyote!! [Re: ]
    #2128994 - 11/22/03 12:53 PM (13 years, 21 days ago)

Looks like what i was gonna say has been said.... so i'll reiterate to reinforce it.

stop the watering, pull them outta that soil (get different soil), put them in some heat and see what happens.


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Re: Help the Peyote!! [Re: neuro]
    #2129024 - 11/22/03 01:22 PM (13 years, 21 days ago)

a thought accquired from practice on 'cactus soil mix'...
my cacti seem to like my rich dark soil mix as long as it's WELL composted. a little garden lime for pH correction and this is it...


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Re: Help the Peyote!! [Re: neuro]
    #2129056 - 11/22/03 01:49 PM (13 years, 21 days ago)

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Re: Help the Peyote!! [Re: ]
    #2130031 - 11/23/03 05:13 AM (13 years, 20 days ago)

what exactly does lime do?

Then what is the plus to dolomite if there is one?


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Re: Help the Peyote!! [Re: poppy_smirf]
    #2130046 - 11/23/03 05:23 AM (13 years, 20 days ago)

Lime is used to aquire the desired PH.


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Re: Help the Peyote!! [Re: W1ll1ams11]
    #2130072 - 11/23/03 06:04 AM (13 years, 20 days ago)

...and dolomite is also used to aquire the desired pH.
The plus is that it works longer, slowly releasing its compounts to the soil, little by little.


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Re: Help the Peyote!! [Re: ]
    #2136691 - 11/26/03 03:41 AM (13 years, 17 days ago)

Thanks for the advice. I thought about pulling the root out before, but now that you said it...I have done it.

I will keep you all posted, thank you much for the help.

As you can see, the root is in open air near a warm vent. Let me know if you see any problems with this.



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Re: Help the Peyote!! [Re: Joshua]
    #2136901 - 11/26/03 07:58 AM (13 years, 17 days ago)

Thats better :grin:. I think you saved it.


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Re: Help the Peyote!! [Re: Joshua]
    #2137319 - 11/26/03 12:19 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

Where's the buttons? I think I seem them but they look worse than before, especially the pup .. if that is the buttons..


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