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PsilocyBen17
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First time spawning oysters
#21259390 - 02/11/15 04:15 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I pasturized some coffee grounds (at field capacity) and I have a quart of fully colonized rye. I'm just going to throw it all into a bread bag and tie a knot in the top. When it is fully colonized I will cut some x's where I want it to fruit...
Will this allow for enough gas exchange? Or should I prick it with a pin a few dozen times?
First time doing this....
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Aren't you running a class where people are paying you money to teach them how to grow oysters...
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This belongs in growing gourmet and medicinals.
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PirateSwazey said: Aren't you running a class where people are paying you money to teach them how to grow oysters... 
yea. so I figure I should fruit these Oysters before I teach my class to do it.
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psilocybeMAN said: This belongs in growing gourmet and medicinals.
k. thanks for the advice. A mod will move it when they come along...I can't.
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PirateSwazey said: Aren't you running a class where people are paying you money to teach them how to grow oysters... 
yea. so I figure I should fruit these Oysters before I teach my class to do it.
Wait.. What?
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Re: First time spawning oysters (moved) [Re: PsilocyBen17]
#21259900 - 02/11/15 05:55 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Mushroom Cultivation.
Reason: Belongs here.
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PirateSwazey said: Aren't you running a class where people are paying you money to teach them how to grow oysters... 
yea. so I figure I should fruit these Oysters before I teach my class to do it.
Wait.. What?
You just need to stay one step ahead of the class! I gave a workshop on log inoculation last year having done it myself exactly once.
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PirateSwazey said: Aren't you running a class where people are paying you money to teach them how to grow oysters... 
yea. so I figure I should fruit these Oysters before I teach my class to do it.
Personally I wouldn't teach I class in anything (but especially something fairly complicated [IMO] such as growing mushrooms and especially for money) without first having done it several times myself. just my 
I have never had success with 100% coffee grounds as a substrate for oysters. I have found it to be relatively acidic, high in nitrogen, and prone to over-absorbing water, all of which seem to favor bacterial growth over oyster myc. I think you will probably have more success if you mix it 1:1 with sawdust or another fairly high carbon substrate. In any case, good luck and please let us know how this turns out.
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You got it mang. So just to be clear, I'm planning to spawn 1 quart of oyster to 1 quart of pasturized coffee grounds. I will mix it all up in a clear plastic bag and tie a knot in the top. then I will prick it with a pin a couple dozen times for FAE.
I'm not worried about the class. I taught them the PF Tek. I've done that dozens of times. I just like to ask questions about what I'm doing so I make sure to get the spawning part right.
I might throw a quart of pasturized coir/verm mix in there cuz i hear coffee contams easy.
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PirateSwazey said: Aren't you running a class where people are paying you money to teach them how to grow oysters... 
yea. so I figure I should fruit these Oysters before I teach my class to do it.
Wait.. What?
You just need to stay one step ahead of the class! I gave a workshop on log inoculation last year having done it myself exactly once.
Seems a bit unethical charging people for a class that you're teaching, on a subject you don't know anything about Spreading bullshit to your friends is one thing, charging people for it is deplorable.
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Nah, I didn't charge for it, that really would be unethical! It was at a festival (the Northern Green Gathering no less) and was really just to get some practice giving workshops on my part.
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PsilocyBen17
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I'm not here to talk about the class I'm teaching. The class covers the PF Tek and fundamental mycology. I'm co teaching it with a mycologist who is more experienced than I am and has done commercial scale grows...
Can we please get back to the OP? I've never spawned oysters to coffee grounds in plastic bags. Is there any advice anyone can give me before I do the spawn run?
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Why not just your boy then, brah...
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Because I'm asking you Swazey. I made this post because I was looking for some advice from the community. I have a dozen quarts of colonized rye and 10 lbs of coffee grounds I'm about to pasteurize. The issue isn't that I won't be able to grow Oysters....the issue is that I would like some advice from the shroomery how to do it efficiently with the best results.
I have asked my my boy brah, and he says this method works fine. If I've learned one thing from the Shroomery its this: there is always more than one way of doing things. The more advice you get from people the better. I was looking to you as an experienced cultivator for some opinions and hopefully tips. Not criticisms.
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PsilocyBen17 said: You got it mang. So just to be clear, I'm planning to spawn 1 quart of oyster to 1 quart of pasturized coffee grounds. I will mix it all up in a clear plastic bag and tie a knot in the top. then I will prick it with a pin a couple dozen times for FAE.
I'm not worried about the class. I taught them the PF Tek. I've done that dozens of times. I just like to ask questions about what I'm doing so I make sure to get the spawning part right.
I might throw a quart of pasturized coir/verm mix in there cuz i hear coffee contams easy.
This sounds fine, I think pricking might make it slightly more likely to contam though. It's up to you really but I would skip that step personally. I think oysters should be fine colonizing in a high co2 environ.
With a 1:1 spawn rate and added coir/verm contams are much less likely to take hold, So I would think this will work.
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Thanks les, thats just the advice I was looking for...
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OK so I spawned 1 quart Oyster Spawn to 2.5 quarts coffee/coir/verm.
I made up 1 tray, 3 coffee cups, and 1 bag.

About a week ago they were all placed in a clear plastic tub with a loosely fitting lid to allow for colonization. Everything has colonized nicely except the bag, which has hardly colonized. Is this because it didnt have enough gas exchange? I never tied a knot in the top of the bag, only twisted it, sorta losely. I think I might just toss it, but in the future should I prick the bag a bit with a pin to allow for GE?
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Prick the bag with a pin 4 or 5 times along the side in a row, do maybe 4 rows of 4 to 5 pin holes.
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Re: First time spawning oysters [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#21279344 - 02/15/15 07:02 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Will do brother. I thought about doing this earlier but someone said it wasnt necessary.
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