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InvisibleAlgo
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hourly pay vs piece rate
    #21258105 - 02/11/15 11:21 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

i was wondering how people get paid and if you perfer hourly or piece rate (a percentage of the job). If your a hard worker piece rate can be kick ass. If not it sucks. I got paid piece rate at my last job and I loved it We Averaged 30 an hour but  other companies who were in the same line of work were paying their employees hourly with a 22 average. If this was the case what would you perfer? I am tring to decide how I will pay my employees this year.


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Re: hourly pay vs piece rate [Re: Algo]
    #21258120 - 02/11/15 11:26 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I prefer to be paid hourly. But depending on what the work is and if it's something I could do on my own and not rely on others (like telemarketing or something), and the rates were reasonable (as in I wouldn't have to work myself to death to make minimum wage) I'd probably rather be paid based piece rate.

I have no problem busting my ass, but if I'm going to have to work twice as hard to make what I would if I was paid hourly, of course I'm going to prefer hourly. It just all really depends on the work itself and the rate offered.

Right now I make around 7-800 every 2 weeks paid hourly. If I could get that same level of pay without an increase in work load, I'd take the second option, because then I would work far harder to get more money.

Generally from what I know though, commission work benefits the employer more than the employee.


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Re: hourly pay vs piece rate [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21258142 - 02/11/15 11:33 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

This will be my first year hiring a guy or two so its kinda daunting, So I appreciate the input, it will give me a better idea oN how I should offer pay.


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Re: hourly pay vs piece rate [Re: Algo]
    #21258213 - 02/11/15 11:48 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

All I can suggest is work out basic math. Commission based work should include what is reasonable for a human being to accomplish in a given slot of time. No one should feel pressured to put their own sanity and health in jeopardy just to make ends meet. Figure out what is reasonably attainable for the average person, then divide that by a reasonable living wage to figure out what commission on any one product/sale should be. If they want to just do the bare minimum to compare to a reasonable wage, then they should have the option to. If you meet those requirements, you'll no doubt have plenty who will go above and beyond to produce better than average.. If you try to make deadlines or quotas unreasonable, you'll have a bunch of stressed and taxed workers who will ONLY do what it takes to keep their job. They will not strive to thrive.

Juts my opinion.


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Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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Re: hourly pay vs piece rate [Re: Algo]
    #21258240 - 02/11/15 11:55 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Piece rate. My employer gave me the choice of getting payed per unit or minimum wage by hour. Whatever I am doing, I tend to do it pretty quickly so I chose piece rate. From this particular job, I make $400 a week opposed to maybe $90 a week I would've made if I chose hourly.

My other job is piece rate but that wasn't my choice, it's just how property management works.


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Re: hourly pay vs piece rate [Re: Webster10]
    #21258243 - 02/11/15 11:56 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Anyone worth their clout would choose piece rate unless hourly is great and the work sucks.

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Re: hourly pay vs piece rate [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21258315 - 02/11/15 12:15 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I was salaried for years and was fine with it.

Now, "technically" I'm hourly, but would have to submit special paperwork to get "leave without pay", so effectively, its salaried.  No problems with it.


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Re: hourly pay vs piece rate [Re: Algo]
    #21258864 - 02/11/15 02:28 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Well, what is your business OP? It's kind of strange to pay your employees by piece if its a restaurant for example, but not weird at all if you're a car salesman.

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Re: hourly pay vs piece rate [Re: Uzziel]
    #21258875 - 02/11/15 02:30 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

its a sealcoating and parking lot striping company.


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Re: hourly pay vs piece rate [Re: Uzziel]
    #21258876 - 02/11/15 02:30 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Usually piece rate is for manual labour. Like roofing.

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Re: hourly pay vs piece rate [Re: Algo]
    #21258906 - 02/11/15 02:35 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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AlgoRythm said:
its a sealcoating and parking lot striping company.




I'd say do it by piece then. Find a profit number that is reasonable, figure out how much you need to get paid per transaction to meet that goal, and then the rest will be split by how much % each employee did.

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Re: hourly pay vs piece rate [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21258919 - 02/11/15 02:36 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I think piece rate is what I'm gonna do.I am planning on paying them well, because I know what its like to get taken advantage of. I am also gonna do kinda like a  co-op and at the end of the year share a percentage of the profit. maybe 1-1.5% for each emeployee.


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