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OfflineEllis Dee
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Re: THIS MEANS WAR!!!! [Re: Ezuma]
    #21258514 - 02/11/15 01:10 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Only home to an estimated 5 million Muslims out of 60 + million people... shit that means even more supporters of ISIS than Muslims in France... well that certainly is crazy if those numbers hold true.
Still I somehow doubt the locals actually terrorized directly by ISIS feel the same as Muslims in france.



I think people in the areas at war are joining up. Even people from France and the UK are going over to join up. I find this personally disturbing.


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Re: THIS MEANS WAR!!!! [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #21258528 - 02/11/15 01:11 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I agree. Islam is worrisome. Christianity, at its core, is problematic, but nowadays most Christians are so far from the original teachings that they're hardly christian in my eyes, and don't really threaten anyone. Islam though... way too much rampant fundamentalism.
There are historical reasons for this of course. And waging war on a group doesn't ted to make em any nicer...

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Re: THIS MEANS WAR!!!! [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #21258535 - 02/11/15 01:13 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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http://www.newsweek.com/16-french-citizens-support-isis-poll-finds-266795 Ok 16% of French citizens support Isis. I think 16% is about the percent of Muslims in France.




I take some issue with the way that study was conducted. But in anycase I also think that the Muslim population in France is like 8 percent or so. So suprisingly that percentage includes non-Muslims as well!! Now that is pretty interesting

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Re: THIS MEANS WAR!!!! [Re: point5wonder] * 1
    #21258554 - 02/11/15 01:17 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

2 groups will benefit from this, US defense contractors. Zionists.


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Re: THIS MEANS WAR!!!! [Re: Ezuma]
    #21258590 - 02/11/15 01:24 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)


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I agree. Islam is worrisome. Christianity, at its core, is problematic, but nowadays most Christians are so far from the original teachings that they're hardly christian in my eyes, and don't really threaten anyone. Islam though... way too much rampant fundamentalism.
There are historical reasons for this of course. And waging war on a group doesn't ted to make em any nicer...



Christianity at its core is a slave religion. Be faithful to your government and masters. Thats why it was spread by Kings, it passified conquored people if they could be converted. It made people easier to rule. Islam is more of an opposite, a religion of Jihad and war is taught to the people, it makes them violont zealots instead of harmless worshippers of a slave god.

Christianity makes slaves want to be loyal out of duty to their god.

Colossians 3:22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord. 23Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters,

But Islam at its core requires murder from its adherants.

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful.  And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. 

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". 


Now for full disclosure, I do not generally care for any organized religion but I don't mind it too much because it gives people comfort. But Islam only is the religion that I find to be a direct threat to all free people. This is because of the inherent nature of Islam, which is to subvert and murder all non-muslims by any means possible. Islam is dangerous. Any organized religion can be perverted into fanaticism, but this murder is not a perversion if Islam, it is exactly what Islam says.


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Re: THIS MEANS WAR!!!! [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #21258631 - 02/11/15 01:33 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I agree. However I do think there are more moderate Muslims, who have modified, more modern beliefs. However the sheer number of crazies is impossible to ignore.
As much as I dislike religion as a whole, I gotta say, Islam is one of the few religions where I feel certain it does more harm than good.

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Re: THIS MEANS WAR!!!! [Re: larry.fisherman] * 2
    #21258685 - 02/11/15 01:47 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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War. Huh. What is it good for?



economical growth for us in the west,sad but true im afraid.


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Re: THIS MEANS WAR!!!! [Re: Ellis Dee] * 1
    #21258693 - 02/11/15 01:49 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Ezuma said:
I agree. Islam is worrisome. Christianity, at its core, is problematic, but nowadays most Christians are so far from the original teachings that they're hardly christian in my eyes, and don't really threaten anyone. Islam though... way too much rampant fundamentalism.
There are historical reasons for this of course. And waging war on a group doesn't ted to make em any nicer...



Christianity at its core is a slave religion. Be faithful to your government and masters. Thats why it was spread by Kings, it passified conquored people if they could be converted. It made people easier to rule. Islam is more of an opposite, a religion of Jihad and war is taught to the people, it makes them violont zealots instead of harmless worshippers of a slave god.

Christianity makes slaves want to be loyal out of duty to their god.

Colossians 3:22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord. 23Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters,

But Islam at its core requires murder from its adherants.

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful.  And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. 

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". 


Now for full disclosure, I do not generally care for any organized religion but I don't mind it too much because it gives people comfort. But Islam only is the religion that I find to be a direct threat to all free people. This is because of the inherent nature of Islam, which is to subvert and murder all non-muslims by any means possible. Islam is dangerous. Any organized religion can be perverted into fanaticism, but this murder is not a perversion if Islam, it is exactly what Islam says.




Ummm to be honest those qoutes are completely out of context. That's actually part of a story being told in the Quran not an actual guideline. In that story the prophet mohamed is being told by God that because his people are being slaughterd and murdred for their beliefs that he must fight back even though he hates the idea of killing.

It then says that when his enemies cease attacking that there is to be no aggression.
Basically it's like saying in the bible: 'and then on the 5th day God said let their be light'
Out of context one would assume that only on Friday should their be any light.

My guess is these terrorist haven't even read a Quran themselves and if they have they sure as hell have skewed it to make sense for themselves.

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Re: THIS MEANS WAR!!!! [Re: point5wonder]
    #21258831 - 02/11/15 02:23 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

*CUE TEAM AMERICA SONG*

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Re: THIS MEANS WAR!!!! [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #21258844 - 02/11/15 02:25 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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We went int Iraq under entirely different circumstances and "flawed" intelligence.....mostly "W's" lack of. These ISIS people threaten our society and society as a whole...they need to be eliminated .....crushed. This can't be accomplished with drones alone. This is not a war on a country....it is just making the "war on terror" a real war.

Fuck ISIS and the camels they rode in on!




"These ISIS people threaten our society"

Just because CNN and Fox say so, it doesn't mean it's true.  They drive around in old Toyota pickup trucks, do you think they're going to invade the US?  :lol:

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Re: THIS MEANS WAR!!!! [Re: qman]
    #21258855 - 02/11/15 02:26 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Anyone who thinks ISIS is a serious threat to america....
That's just funny. ISIS is an ant compared to the US

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Re: THIS MEANS WAR!!!! [Re: Mescalean]
    #21258891 - 02/11/15 02:31 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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We went int Iraq under entirely different circumstances and "flawed" intelligence.....mostly "W's" lack of. These ISIS people threaten our society and society as a whole...they need to be eliminated .....crushed. This can't be accomplished with drones alone. This is not a war on a country....it is just making the "war on terror" a real war.

Fuck ISIS and the camels they rode in on!









But if it was a republican fuck them right fuck war. 2 party system is dead. Dead



That is an absolutely ridiculous comment....This has nothing to do with party lines. It is simply the right thing to do...and the republican congress will surely authorize it.:shrug: That gif is hilarious though.


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Re: THIS MEANS WAR!!!! [Re: qman]
    #21258898 - 02/11/15 02:33 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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baltimark said:
We went int Iraq under entirely different circumstances and "flawed" intelligence.....mostly "W's" lack of. These ISIS people threaten our society and society as a whole...they need to be eliminated .....crushed. This can't be accomplished with drones alone. This is not a war on a country....it is just making the "war on terror" a real war.

Fuck ISIS and the camels they rode in on!




"These ISIS people threaten our society"

Just because CNN and Fox say so, it doesn't mean it's true.  They drive around in old Toyota pickup trucks, do you think they're going to invade the US?  :lol:



LOL...so did Osama Bin Laden....drive in a old pick up truck. And, I hate faux news.


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