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OfflinePsychoKinesiS
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Most of the posts in TPE these days are about bad trips.
    #21253026 - 02/10/15 11:56 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not going to bother posting them all but I as a look around, I see mostly new threads about bad trips, difficulty tripping, or general negativity. For example:

"Breath stops while tripping"
"Nervous as can be!"
"All boundaries dissolved... All alone"
"Trapped Inside My Head"
"Shaking uncontrollably"
"Panic Attack From Weed"
"the ultimate trip" (suicide thread)

I myself I am guilty. I'm just curious about what is going on. All the threads used to be about good trips. Is there some new energy vibration coming in?


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Re: Most of the posts in TPE these days are about bad trips. [Re: PsychoKinesiS]
    #21253070 - 02/10/15 12:07 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

well the nervous as can be one is me haha, and it's not about a bad trip, i'm very familiar with tripping whhen it comes to mushrooms and such, but dmt for some reason gets me anxious every time I consider doing it, and was wondering if this was a common thing or not :P like the power of the experience is what is deterring me even though that's what i'm looking forward to

on the other note though, i do see what you mean, thread has been full of negativity lately.

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Re: Most of the posts in TPE these days are about bad trips. [Re: PsychoKinesiS] * 1
    #21253329 - 02/10/15 01:18 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

winter in the northern hemisphere.  or something. :shrug:


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Re: Most of the posts in TPE these days are about bad trips. [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #21253350 - 02/10/15 01:22 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like a lot of people running from what's being brought to them instead of allowing themselves to marinate in it and learn to understand the nature of their experience.

I'm saying this because that is what I've learned to do with psychedelics.

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Re: Most of the posts in TPE these days are about bad trips. [Re: CokeNasmilee]
    #21253361 - 02/10/15 01:26 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Like anything everything happens in cycles. I'm sure if you did enough trolling through the vast shroomery archives you could find a pattern of up and down nrg.

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Re: Most of the posts in TPE these days are about bad trips. [Re: CokeNasmilee]
    #21253367 - 02/10/15 01:28 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Right man I'm tripping on 1.5mg of 25i it feels so good and it's so fucking beatiful!
Just these newcomers bringing down the vibe if they want a good trip the best advice I can give them is to bring nothing but the good vibes then they'll have the time of their fucking life!


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Re: Most of the posts in TPE these days are about bad trips. [Re: aler]
    #21253379 - 02/10/15 01:32 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

But in order to have good vibes you need to do good things. Lot's of liars and cheaters in the world. It's hard to be forced to confront your actions which is where I believe bad trips come from. Not marinating in your bullshit and accepting your punishment so to speak. Then and only then will the substance reward you! :smile:

Good vibes!

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Re: Most of the posts in TPE these days are about bad trips. [Re: CokeNasmilee]
    #21253425 - 02/10/15 01:52 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Bad trips are the best, man. For me, they tend to be the deepest, the most emotionally driven experiences that leave really powerful imprints on my mind. Whether it is a good thing depends on why the experience is bad.

If its just resisting the psychedelic experience, then that may be "damaging".

But if it relates to ones psychological state of depression, anxiety, or deep seated emotions, it can be a powerfully positive thing to go through the pain.

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Re: Most of the posts in TPE these days are about bad trips. [Re: fx1]
    #21253527 - 02/10/15 02:12 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

What you're talking about is what I'm meaning to say. Just said it metaphorically because it's fun :smile:

But when people refuse to look at their issues, that's usually the start of a bad experience. In my own experience anyway.

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Re: Most of the posts in TPE these days are about bad trips. [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #21254050 - 02/10/15 04:28 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I gotta agree with PrimalSoup. Negative trips can easily happen what with all the dead plants and being stuck indoors most of the time, can be difficult to keep the good vibes going y'know?

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Re: Most of the posts in TPE these days are about bad trips. [Re: Thetriangle]
    #21254188 - 02/10/15 04:52 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I've noticed it too, and it's been bummin me out so bad. I had an LSD trip last Friday and it was quite pleasant. Didn't make a thread about it because it wasn't that mindblowing to mention.


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Re: Most of the posts in TPE these days are about bad trips. [Re: CokeNasmilee]
    #21254397 - 02/10/15 05:27 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

CokeNasmilee said:
Sounds like a lot of people running from what's being brought to them instead of allowing themselves to marinate in it and learn to understand the nature of their experience.

I'm saying this because that is what I've learned to do with psychedelics.




I have a thread "Trying to forget about hyperspace." I marinated for a year and  couldn't handle not talking to anyone about my experience so I joined up here. I guess it can be viewed as a negative thread but a bunch of people posted quality stuff in there which is positive.

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Re: Most of the posts in TPE these days are about bad trips. [Re: johnymush]
    #21254441 - 02/10/15 05:34 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I think just bad trips, bad thoughts or being nervous really just plays on our emotions, so they get repeorted more.

Only really goood trips will get reported, medicore/mundane ones (If thats even possible), why bother right?

Plus, the cold and/or wet season doesnt help with S.A.D. going around :shrug:



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Re: Most of the posts in TPE these days are about bad trips. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21255177 - 02/10/15 07:34 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

The posts are just reflecting reality which has been denied around here for some time.

I have heard a shit ton of nonsense around here like:

Oh you had a bad trip? Must have been an RC!
I have had 5 LSD trips and no bummers, I must be immune!
It's only 200 micrograms, a nice light trip.

Bad trips are a fact, you almost certainly will have at least one if you keep tripping. It's impossible to prevent too. In fact you can take every precaution and be in best head space and it can still happen.
In many ways I feel the people in their 20's and younger are not prepared. You have LSD in this magical perfect place and ignored 50 years of some very negative user reports. All the people who dropped in the 60s-90s have quit, there are reasons for that. Like lots of people keep smoking weed their whole life but almost everyone quits LSD. When I ask my 40 year old friends about LSD they have all sorts of negative opinions based on their own history. Kids today seem to have filtered all that negative stuff out, they look at LSD with candy colored glasses and it's not an accurate view. People don't seem to be able to sort out drug war lies from genuine concerns of past users.
Big shock: psychedelics are powerful and not kids stuff.

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Re: Most of the posts in TPE these days are about bad trips. [Re: my3rdeye]
    #21255634 - 02/10/15 08:54 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Most of the people who first get involved with psychedelics aren't in it for the immersive spiritual experience. My first time experimenting with mushrooms was for the sole purpose of trying another drug and experiencing something "more". Those were my only intentions at the time, but with experience I started to learn what exactly "more" meant to myself as an individual. I've learned a lot about my mind, my friends, my family and many aspects of how the world operates around me. I don't regret "this", but "this" is referring to the countless hours spent in a distorted reality. And this distorted perspective yields many emotions, often times (for me) they are extremely amplified and can be quite nerve-wracking.

People who think they are getting into it with the intention of getting high usually end up with their nervous system overloaded, their previous mindsets shattered (sometimes) and usually a different outlook on how they view their problems. This is HUGE as a person, and it's no wonder people are a little scared about it at first and seek advice from people with more experience with the matter. People come to the Shroomery to get help, and to help other people. This place is a "source" for information that can be much harder to find elsewhere, and I'm thankful to the creators and contributors.

If someone has a beautiful trip, good for them. But there isn't much to talk about with that. The real things to talk about are deep issues found within us, sometimes they are issues we don't know how to deal with or accept. But thank goodness we have supportive people here who understand where other trippers are coming from, and can probably help guide them in the right direction. This site is potentially the closest thing the modern world has to the concept of a shaman. I could be wrong though, it's just my opinions of course.

But that being said, yeah, some people get their asses handed to every once in a while and they don't know how to cope or address these issues. Shroomerites are encouraging, and I've noticed they often don't tell you to quit doing drugs, but more towards shaping your sober reality in a way that will benefit your tripping one. And if we don't decide to listen to the drugs (and Shroomerites) it is likely these bad experiences will keep happening. We just need the support and guidance to make the right decisions, to stay on a just path in reality.

The more bad experiences the better. Because we all have something to work on and improve... If we all had beautiful blissful and perfect experiences, the Shroomery wouldn't exist as it does today. It would just be a place to get advice on growing stuff. But this site is so much more than that.


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Re: Most of the posts in TPE these days are about bad trips. [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #21255703 - 02/10/15 09:06 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

People post about bad trips because they need help integrating. Freak outs happen, negative or difficult emotions come up with no therapists in sight. Psychedelics are dangerous. You can rewire your brain in a bad way if a big dse goes sideways and you do integrate back properly.

I've had bad trips and came down and rushed to work....  bad move. I've  had really strong confusing trips and a friend attempt suicide during it (still coping with the sense of absolutely no control). sometimes shit happens and people need a place to vent and come for help.

I'm not gonna be like "Just had the best trip ever, cosmic oneness, new perspective yay. Now what do I do?" I'm gonna be like "How I learn to let go when possibly bad shit that's out of my immediate control might happen when I'm too tripped to stand?"

Dig?

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Re: Most of the posts in TPE these days are about bad trips. [Re: Cinnor]
    #21255806 - 02/10/15 09:26 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Also, I'm pretty sure all of us are guilty of calling uncomfortable trips "bad trips". Realizing there's a big difference between the two I believe I've only had one or two bad trips.


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Re: Most of the posts in TPE these days are about bad trips. [Re: SomeGuyX] * 1
    #21255887 - 02/10/15 09:40 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah it's probably like customer service. Good customer service(good trip) is not reported to management(TPE), but bad customer service (bad trip) is reported much more frequently. Took some serious brain power to come up with this theory.  :biggrin:

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Re: Most of the posts in TPE these days are about bad trips. [Re: johnymush]
    #21255936 - 02/10/15 09:46 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Right, I agree. And about your hyperspace experience, it totally fits into this thread perfectly - you had an experience that was near impossible to integrate in this reality. But there are some people here who have been in the same dimension (or near) who can offer quality advice. And I bet you are that closer to integrating parts of it. If that's true I'm very happy for you.


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Re: Most of the posts in TPE these days are about bad trips. [Re: PsychoKinesiS]
    #21256953 - 02/11/15 02:21 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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PsychoKinesiS said:
I'm not going to bother posting them all but I as a look around, I see mostly new threads about bad trips, difficulty tripping, or general negativity. For example:

"Breath stops while tripping"
"Nervous as can be!"
"All boundaries dissolved... All alone"
"Trapped Inside My Head"
"Shaking uncontrollably"
"Panic Attack From Weed"
"the ultimate trip" (suicide thread)

I myself I am guilty. I'm just curious about what is going on. All the threads used to be about good trips. Is there some new energy vibration coming in?



I look at this as something possibly good.

If you look around, what do you see? CEO's stealing billions and getting promoted while poor people get sent to jail for stealing pennies. People busted for LSD getting life sentences and dying in jail while murderers and rapists get paroled. A 13 year old girl gets gang raped in Somalia and reports it to the police. She gets charged with adultery and is stoned to death.

That's not to mention the 150 BILLION animals that are slaughtered every year to feed most of the people you know.

How can someone act like things are so great when they're definitely not?

Maybe people are starting to mature.


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