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OfflineSapphotrophic
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CONTINUED ID REQUEST (thank you!)
    #21245071 - 02/08/15 06:21 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

edit 2: scroll past first section, unless you disagree with the first specimen's identification consensus of being of the Mycena genus

Apologies in advance if I am breaking forum etiquette, but there seems to be several varieties of mushroom so similar (and variable in appearance) and I cannot identify them.
Hopefully a more seasoned eye can assist me!
due to ambiguity, i am not 100% sure if every specimen is of the same species :confused:

I suspect they are Psilocybe - perhaps azurescens, semilanceata or strictipes, but perhaps Panaeolus olivaceus, but their characteristics are ambiguous, a tiny detail not accounted for brings me back to the question:
WHAT are these?!

(here they are grouped together)




growing in a very wet early february in a rainy west WA forest. they seem to grow in decaying plant matter, soil, often around a tree (living or not). I have also seen what I believe to be the same species growing on felled trees.

Next time I'll also make proper spore prints!

edit 1: these are almost certainly of the Mycena genus, which I don't believe are even edible/palatable (let alone active) :sad:
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edit 2:
Will be heading to very similar terrain soon, will definitely photograph better and make spore prints :grin:

Just a quick ID question, these jump out to anyone as anything clearly?





same environment as described above, ty!! :heart:




Edited by Sapphotrophic (02/08/15 10:51 PM)

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Re: Despite much effort, still cannot identify! [Re: Sapphotrophic]
    #21245110 - 02/08/15 06:31 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Psilocybe sylvatica is the only thing it looks close too..

Don't take my word tho, they look like another non active mushroom that starts with M.  Just forgot the name.

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Re: Despite much effort, still cannot identify! [Re: MikeBearPig]
    #21245120 - 02/08/15 06:34 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Mycena

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Re: Despite much effort, still cannot identify! [Re: vjp]
    #21245162 - 02/08/15 06:41 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

That would be what I was thinking of.

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Re: Despite much effort, still cannot identify! [Re: vjp]
    #21245213 - 02/08/15 06:56 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

vjp said:
Mycena




Mycena cyanorrhiza perhaps? I did notice a blueish tinge to the base of the stipe. 
Mycena galericulata looks like a possibility based on this pic

but looking further I don't believe that's correct either.

thank you for the suggestion!


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Re: Despite much effort, still cannot identify! [Re: Sapphotrophic]
    #21245359 - 02/08/15 07:45 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

100% a Mycena species. I'd say a Mycena leptocephala.

Good starter site for PNW mycena http://www.svims.ca/council/Myceno.htm


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Re: Despite much effort, still cannot identify! [Re: NeoSporen]
    #21245465 - 02/08/15 08:10 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

NeoSporen said:
100% a Mycena species.




you can usually recognize this genus by the white gills (and white spores), small size, and bell shaped cap, for future reference. They also often (not always) grow from wood.


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Re: Despite much effort, still cannot identify! [Re: vjp]
    #21245503 - 02/08/15 08:20 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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vjp said:
Mycena




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Re: Despite much effort, still cannot identify! [Re: HookerWithAPenis]
    #21245575 - 02/08/15 08:35 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Definitely not a psilocybe of any kind though.


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Re: Despite much effort, still cannot identify! [Re: Sapphotrophic]
    #21246001 - 02/08/15 10:29 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

NeoSporen said:
100% a Mycena species. I'd say a Mycena leptocephala.




i think you're right on the species, and I agree it's gotta be a Mycena. shame its not edible at least :ooo:

thank you to all for your help!!


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Re: Despite much effort, still cannot identify! [Re: Sapphotrophic]
    #21246054 - 02/08/15 10:42 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

For the most part the PNW active season is over. Come mid to late march/april the Ovoid season will start. In regards to finding Psilocybe species in the PNW, best timing is between August-December. Check back at old posts and get familiar with your target species. Arming yourself with knowledge of your target will always result in more consistent finds.

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Re: Despite much effort, still cannot identify! [Re: Sapphotrophic]
    #21246169 - 02/08/15 11:18 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

ive edited the post to incorporate the ID consensus and also ask re: identification to a different specimen entirely. best to make a new post? (if so ill wait a while):smile:


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Re: Despite much effort, still cannot identify! [Re: Sapphotrophic]
    #21246239 - 02/08/15 11:49 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Sometimes making a new thread is the best, but if you already have people answering some questions, it might be best to keep it in an original thread.

With that being said, it's hard to tell from the pictures. Nothing insulting, but if you havent read this yet, you should keep in mind what is needed for a good positive ID. The fellows here are only as good as the info you provide:super: Judging since I was just out in a forest similar to the one in your photos, I'd guess an Inocybe species, but would be best to wait for a TI. Nothing active or edible by any means. Keep at it tho, and happy hunting:shroompick:


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Re: Despite much effort, still cannot identify! [Re: NeoSporen]
    #21246334 - 02/09/15 12:53 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

btw WOW to your wonderful pictures! I am new to mycology - I have much to learn but I am enjoying the process.

you mentioned the season for the PNW ended in december, but due to the [detailed description of recent weather] weather , maybe the season has "continued"? mushrooms of many kinds seem to be plentiful, but are there any actives an experienced member would suggest a novice keep an eye out for? Ones that are easy to ID while hunting? Or anything you may have learned since starting out that you wish you had known from the start?

ty ty ty ! ! !


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Re: Despite much effort, still cannot identify! [Re: Sapphotrophic]
    #21246349 - 02/09/15 01:03 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

In "MY" personal experience, I've never found any spring active except a gymnopilus or P. ovoideocystidiata. There are reports of P. Stuntzii in spring, and it's not impossible to find the rogue cyan, baeocystis or stuntzii this time of year, but don't hold your breath. Once spring hits you can hunt mulch for ovoids:shroompick:

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