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Rye berries vs. WBS... why do so many choose WBS?
    #2124490 - 11/20/03 08:49 AM (14 years, 27 days ago)

I've been using the PF tek for years and "moved up" to rye some time ago. Both have worked excellent for me with very limited contam probs.
I notice that a lot of shroomery residents use WBS as their substrate of choice. I think rye is easier to use and is readily available at a low cost. Why the WBS for so many?


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Re: Rye berries vs. WBS... why do so many choose WBS? [Re: tuco_ramirez]
    #2124605 - 11/20/03 10:26 AM (14 years, 27 days ago)

For me the choice to use WBS over Rye berries is the fact that I have never found Rye berries anywhere. WBS can be found at any WalMart, pet store, grocery stores, hardware stores, or lawn and garden stores. Tell me where to find Rye berries and I'll try it. WBS work good for me though.


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Re: Rye berries vs. WBS... why do so many choose WBS? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2124672 - 11/20/03 11:04 AM (14 years, 27 days ago)

6$ for 50 lbs of cracked corn. Need I say more :smile:


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Re: Rye berries vs. WBS... why do so many choose WBS? [Re: tuco_ramirez]
    #2124682 - 11/20/03 11:07 AM (14 years, 27 days ago)

WBS is cheaper, more readily available, contains less bacterial endospores, and has smaller grains.


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Re: Rye berries vs. WBS... why do so many choose WBS? [Re: ]
    #2124696 - 11/20/03 11:18 AM (14 years, 27 days ago)

Should I use the WBS with cracked corn in it or just the straight seed?
Also, if it's not too much troube, please post your favorite tek for prepping WBS substrate.
Thanks!


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Re: Rye berries vs. WBS... why do so many choose WBS? [Re: tuco_ramirez]
    #2124724 - 11/20/03 11:34 AM (14 years, 27 days ago)

get a bird seed that is mostly millet.

here's how i make mine:

1. rinse seed under tap.
2. soak seed in water for 12-24 hours.
3. rinse seed again.
4. allow all excess water to drain out.
5. load into filtered jars (half full). put foil over each lid.
6. PC
7. as soon as the PC is cool enough to open (takes about an hour to cool) open it up and shake those jars.
8. inoculate jars the next day and shake again.


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Re: Rye berries vs. WBS... why do so many choose WBS? [Re: tuco_ramirez]
    #2124727 - 11/20/03 11:37 AM (14 years, 27 days ago)

For me.....I do alot of pans...
WBS works better than rye for me.

Rye is good for cubies though...
Fungi Perfecti has bags that I get.
You might try them


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Re: Rye berries vs. WBS... why do so many choose WBS? [Re: ralphster44]
    #2124754 - 11/20/03 11:47 AM (14 years, 27 days ago)

I have only done cubies so far, but am planning to try some pans in the spring.  Guess I should get used to the WBS.  Never hurts to experiment.

When draining the water for the second time, right before they go into the jars... do you try to squeeze water out?  Or just shake the loose water off?

I only ask because in the past, my WBS seemed to wet.

(I'm going to try WBS this weekend... :smile:


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Re: Rye berries vs. WBS... why do so many choose WBS? [Re: tuco_ramirez]
    #2124767 - 11/20/03 11:52 AM (14 years, 27 days ago)

Boil it until it absorbs all the water it can...about 1/2 hour.
Drain and rince for couple mins.....let drain for 20 mins.
Load them jars...and PC.


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Re: Rye berries vs. WBS... why do so many choose WBS? [Re: ralphster44]
    #2124825 - 11/20/03 12:32 PM (14 years, 27 days ago)

birseed is readily available and cheap, 100 pounds for 10 bucks. Clean quart jars with bleach, dry, rinse birdseed (remove sunflower seeds optional) very thoroughly, fill jars with birseed and cover with water. Let sit 24 hours, allowing endospores to germinate, rinse again, let drain for at least 30 min, while waiting clean quart jars with bleach, squeaky clean, load jars 1/2 full, pc at 15 psi for at least 90 min. This may seem like extra steps and WBS can be easier, however this has proven to be very effective, from 100% to about a 20% contam rate.


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Re: Rye berries vs. WBS... why do so many choose WBS? [Re: thisone]
    #2124997 - 11/20/03 02:06 PM (14 years, 27 days ago)

Is it neccesary to boil the wbs? Some suggest just soaking it...


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Re: Rye berries vs. WBS... why do so many choose WBS? [Re: tuco_ramirez]
    #2125192 - 11/20/03 03:30 PM (14 years, 27 days ago)

in my opinion, soaking is better.


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Re: Rye berries vs. WBS... why do so many choose WBS? [Re: ]
    #2125439 - 11/20/03 05:33 PM (14 years, 27 days ago)

i steam/microwave my jars of finchseed. I drain very well. I have tinfoil over the top and when im done they always look too wet. Whats the deal..?


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Re: Rye berries vs. WBS... why do so many choose WBS? [Re: tuco_ramirez]
    #12017035 - 02/12/10 06:45 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

also here in nh. theres no organic rye berries around either. so wbs is easier to get. i have purchase to 10 bags of berries and it cost me 10$ per bag and 30$ to ship. i just got the bags today. me myself im going back to wbs cheaper.


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Re: Rye berries vs. WBS... why do so many choose WBS? [Re: santaclausmush]
    #12017088 - 02/12/10 06:54 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I've yet to try rye. I think its main appeal is that it's easier to work with because the grains are far more uniform and thus easier to get the water content just right. I plan to try rye at some point, but I've gotten my WBS prep down and it works well, it's cheap, and I can get it with the groceries. If it colonizes well and if it's for spawning to bulk, what more do you need :shrug:


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Re: Rye berries vs. WBS... why do so many choose WBS? [Re: santaclausmush]
    #12017128 - 02/12/10 07:00 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

reviving old threads to talk about your wbs is lame.


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Re: Rye berries vs. WBS... why do so many choose WBS? [Re: prismism]
    #12017204 - 02/12/10 07:14 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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reviving old threads to talk about your wbs is lame.



I agree. And it's been happening more and more recently. I think there should be a sticky in every forum with something like "Look at the date of the thread you found using search before you post." Because most people don't, they find a topic they are interested into, and just reply. Search function doesn't sort by date by default and it confuses lots of noobs.


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Re: Rye berries vs. WBS... why do so many choose WBS? [Re: Tangich]
    #12017315 - 02/12/10 07:31 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I try to look before the most recent post to see if this is happening. Got me this time, though.  :shrug:


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Re: Rye berries vs. WBS... why do so many choose WBS? [Re: myceleus_rex]
    #12017711 - 02/12/10 08:29 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

maybe after a thread is 1 year old, it should be viewable only. no longer allowed to post on.  maybe an archive could be started.


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Re: Rye berries vs. WBS... why do so many choose WBS? [Re: Tangich]
    #12018050 - 02/12/10 09:21 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Tangich said: And it's been happening more and more recently.




It's bound to get worse as the site ages.
As you say, having a date sort in the process would help. You should suggest it. :thumbup:


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