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DrJacoby
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UPDATE: Harvest This Thing? Gettin' weird: A total noob's fractured grow log.
#21240554 - 02/07/15 05:42 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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UPDATE: New Photos at the bottom. Thank you for taking the time to look.
Hello to everybody,
I'm Dr. Jacoby. I'm totally new to mycology. I've had some problems with various stress disorders for some time and one strategy to help with that was to get a dog and get out walking a lot more. So, I got this guy:

Well we walked and walked and as you can guess, I started to see mushrooms everywhere. Weird mushrooms. Things I thought only grew in far away places.
Like This:

Or these:

And uhm.. these:

Well... like any person I had to wonder which of these I could eat and which I couldn't and my reasearch into the weird world of mushrooms began. Before long I found out that in this area, magic mushrooms grow wild and in relative abundance. I had no clue. I was blown away. What's more, I read that there is some evidence that they can be used to help with the treatment of certain stress disorders. That got the old gears turning. I wondered and hummed and hawed and after a lot of thinking and some discussion with the beast, I decided to look into cultivating some. I started reading various sites. Eventually I settled on this place as the best community to learn from. As per community recommendations I purchased the RR videos and watched them. Took notes. Read the various Teks. Acquired materials and set about pressure cooking and inoculating substrates.
I ordered spores from two places. Place 1) A shroomery sponsor place 2) a non-sponsor. I like to make up my own mind about things and I was willing to eat a few bucks in the name of experimentation.
I decided to go with the basic BRF PF Tek 1/2 pint mason jar as shown so clearly in the RR videos. What follows are a few pictures of the progress.
This is umm.. 4 or 5 days from inoculation. Allegedly the strain is B+ but you don't know until they fruit, do you? These were from the sponsor. 0.5cc injected into each of 4 holes drilled in the lid of the mason jar. I had enough juice to do 5 1/2 pint jars like this.

Here we are, about 12 days from the inital injection:

And to bring us up to speed, here are some photos from today:


Mmmm... rooty.
So for comparison, and for anybody who's interested in the results of the non sponsor jars, these were taken today. They were injected at the same time as the previous 1/2 pint jars and in the case of them I put 1cc into each of the 4 holes. They are purported to be cambodian and golden teacher but again, who knows what's growing in there. I'm no mycologist.


So, as you can see, the non-sponsor jars are growing something. Lord knows what though and not nearly as quickly as the ones from our benevolent sponsor site.
Well the idea was to wait until I had some photos worth posting. I feel the sponsor cakes are at 100% colonization and now I'm at a crossroads. Do I build the shotgunned chamber of fruiting or do I go with Pasty(NOT Pasty)whyte's mini-mono solution? I have a few bricks of coir and I also have a bag of perlite. Which way do I go boys? Which way do I go?
Pasty has been kind in explaining a bit about what I'd need to do with the mini-mono and I found a nice cheese grater exactly like I saw Martha Stewart using to prepare her own mono-tubs. So that's ready to roll. I've read the thread about the suspicions on eco-something brand coir though (which is what I found for a super low price) and now I'm having doubts about grating my 5 nice cakes and then mixing them in with the devil's sawdust.
SFC seems like a foolproof harvest of something. Mini-mono seems like a likely harvest of a larger size but with increased risk. Any opinions?
Also, if I go the way of the mini-mono do I need to dunk those cakes before grating? Should I let them sit and relaxify for a week before I dunk, or is that only if they're going to get to live in the SFC?
Thoughts, opinions and criticisms are welcome. Like I say, I'm brand new to this and I'm at a fork in the road. Oh, two last pics before I go, what is this succulent looking jackson?

I fed it to the dog and he made this face:
 (I didn't really feed it to him, he just makes that face to cheer me up)
Cheers guys!
- Doc
Edited by DrJacoby (02/28/15 05:42 PM)
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Re: Gettin' weird with the good doctor: A total noob's fractured grow log. PICS! [Re: DrJacoby]
#21240579 - 02/07/15 05:50 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well welcome to the community to start. Thats awesome stuff you got going man. Id recommend cheese grading them and than transferring that to some grain. Than make some monos from that after you make more g2g, that way you can fruit 3 pf cakes, get like 10-15g than have 2 grain jars that you can turn to 20 and make 4 large mono tubs.
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Re: Gettin' weird with the good doctor: A total noob's fractured grow log. PICS! [Re: kushroom]
#21240590 - 02/07/15 05:54 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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dam dude awesome dog and awesome shroom…
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Re: Gettin' weird with the good doctor: A total noob's fractured grow log. PICS! [Re: kushroom]
#21240604 - 02/07/15 05:57 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'de say fruit a few cakes in the sgfc to ensure some quality contemplation time. On the other hand you can spawn those cakes to more cakes via a SAB/Ziplock bag filled with clean brf cakes. Also in a SAB with a sterile tool you can excise a small chunk or two of those cakes and drop the piece into a jar of grain. Above all I recommend learning agar that way any shroomies you find/fruit you can print and clean up via your SAB/agar plates. Plus agar lets you do all the fun stuff (Clones/Isolates)
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Re: Gettin' weird with the good doctor: A total noob's fractured grow log. PICS! [Re: kushroom]
#21240607 - 02/07/15 05:58 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Welcome to the shroomery!
Your pup looks like an awesome companion.
If I were in your position, I would probably do 1/2 and 1/2. Take half the cake of each species and throw some in a mini mono, and the others in a SGFC.
That way you can see what you like better, and you have a pretty good chance of success.
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Re: Gettin' weird with the good doctor: A total noob's fractured grow log. PICS! [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#21240635 - 02/07/15 06:06 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nice pooch 
I'd say SGFC to get your bearings that's where I started.
If you feel confident go for a mini mono.
I'd just say your chance of success is less but don't give up if you fail at first
Try try again
Good luck man
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Re: Gettin' weird with the good doctor: A total noob's fractured grow log. PICS! [Re: DrJacoby]
#21240663 - 02/07/15 06:16 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I believe the first two pictures of mushrooms are of (quite old) Boletus Edulis.
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Re: Gettin' weird with the good doctor: A total noob's fractured grow log. PICS! [Re: rbchase1]
#21241008 - 02/07/15 07:42 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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what up Doc! glad you made a Log and got things going. Welcome to the shroomery once again haha! anyways that dog looks chill and full of love. deff a wonderful companion in times of need. first id like to say your jars are looking awesome. As far as fruiting them, i would do 1/2 of the cakes in the sgfc and then spawn the other half or 2 cakes to a mini mono w coir. also you can do G2G transfer with one of your jars if you choose to prolong that process and want to start a couple steps ahead. i personally dunked my cakes after consolidation and then spawned them to a CVG mini mono. i have info and pics of my log of it here http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21112945. anyways cheers and love what you doing and hope you find much light and love in the journey you are embarking on. -TheLostBoys
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DrJacoby
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Re: Gettin' weird with the good doctor: A total noob's fractured grow log. PICS! [Re: DrJacoby]
#21271141 - 02/13/15 10:47 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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UPDATE:
Ok, I feel it's been a a full week, perhaps even eight days since the cakes fully colonized, so tonight I began "The Burthening".
Looks fully colonized right?
 Here she is from below:
 So over to the sink and the wood cutting board and I popped her out, gave it a rinse and put it back to take a pic:

So here are the first 5 cakes:

They'll get the 24h soak as per the instructions and tomorrow they go into the SGFC. I'm surprised by how light they were when they came out of the jars. I'm not sure what I was expecting but they were certainly different than what I'd imagined they'd be. Nature's styrofoam perhaps? In fact they were really buoyant when I stuck them in the old pot of water. I had to put two plates on them to weigh the suckers down. Everything smelled nice and mushroomy. Like a bag of button mushrooms from the store.
Can't wait to see what happens!
Of course, the entire process was supervised from the comfort of the couch by my dog...
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Edited by DrJacoby (02/14/15 12:01 AM)
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Re: Gettin' weird with the good doctor: A total noob's fractured grow log. PICS! [Re: DrJacoby]
#21271221 - 02/13/15 11:16 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Looks good man, me and you both will be rolling our cakes in verm and then off to the SGFC tomo. your in for a treat for the next couple weeks. should see signs in 10 days. seems to be the lucky number. -TheLostBoys
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DrJacoby
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Re: Gettin' weird: A total noob's fractured grow log. UPDATE: Need Help Fine Tuning [Re: DrJacoby]
#21336284 - 02/27/15 12:51 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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02/26 UPDATE:
A few days ago I saw my very first pin.

Great I thought! Soon there should be pins everywhere, but no. No, that is the lone thing to sprout. I'm coming up on two weeks since putting the cakes in the SGFC. Day 11 or so I think. That pin seems to be doing well but lord does it seem to have some kind of crazy girth to it. This is it a few days later. Behold:

This is what the setup looks like:

It's been a little on the cool side here the past while but it's not that cold in the house. Here's a look inside. You'll notice on the cake to the left of the cake with the lone mushroom there's another pin. That's from a jar I knocked up with spores from an unreliable vendor. I wasn't sure what would happen so I just let them sit and the thing started to sprout in vitro so I set it free. If it wants to live, who am I to say no?

Do I just continue to wait it out? Do I need another inch of perlite? It's a good 4" there, the bottom holes are a half inch from the base of the tub. I followed the RR video's hand technique. I'm sure it's humid enough. The box is plenty heavy. Lots of water in there. Hmmm... how do I fine tune this brothers? I'd like to see a little more action in there.
Now for something slightly different.
Ok, speaking of that unreliable vendor I have a second issue. I knocked up 3 jars with a spore syringe they supplied me. 1 jar looks just fine. Two have a small spot of what looks like some sort of contamination. I suspect it was due to the syringe as it's only in this particular strain, but maybe it was my technique. I was pretty uptight about doing things exactly as laid out by you experts though.
    
Anyhow, is there anything I can do with these or are they destined for the garbage bin?
Edited by DrJacoby (02/27/15 12:53 AM)
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Re: Gettin' weird: A total noob's fractured grow log. UPDATE: Need Help Fine Tuning [Re: DrJacoby]
#21337151 - 02/27/15 08:07 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Those last pics look just like enzymes which, if anything, is a good sign of some tenacious myc.
I'm far from the most experienced one here, so let's see what others say.
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Re: Gettin' weird: A total noob's fractured grow log. UPDATE: Need Help Fine Tuning [Re: RedRum42]
#21337595 - 02/27/15 10:14 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
RedRum42 said: Those last pics look just like enzymes which, if anything, is a good sign of some tenacious myc.
I'm far from the most experienced one here, so let's see what others say.
Hmmm... hadn't considered that. It would be cool if that were the case and I didn't have to chuck them. Thanks for the input.
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Re: Gettin' weird: A total noob's fractured grow log. UPDATE: Need Help Fine Tuning [Re: DrJacoby]
#21337805 - 02/27/15 10:56 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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How often have you been misting the cakes bro?
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DrJacoby
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Re: Gettin' weird: A total noob's fractured grow log. UPDATE: Need Help Fine Tuning [Re: Straya]
#21338479 - 02/27/15 01:33 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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surf_ride28 said: How often have you been misting the cakes bro?
As often as my schedule permits. Usually that means first thing when I wake up, then I shower take my dog for a walk, take him to daycare, have breakfast, mist again before leaving for work, I'm gone for about 8 hrs or so, not much I can do about that, mist as soon as I get home, and again before bed.
I wonder if I'm misting too much. Not enough evaporation? Like I say, the perlite is heavy with water. When I mist I hold down the trigger for a good 20 + seconds, let the water fall from up high, fan vigorously, inspect closely to make sure the verm has some beads of water on it.
I dunno... I'm stumped. The one mushroom looks peculiar, no?
Should I wake up in the night to mist more (it's still fairly cool here and the SGFC sits just off the foundation)? Should I back off the misting and let these guys dry out some?
It's all very interesting. Really cool pastime.
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Re: Gettin' weird: A total noob's fractured grow log. UPDATE: Need Help Fine Tuning [Re: DrJacoby]
#21345275 - 02/28/15 05:44 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey everybody. So, this absurd looking thing is my first mushroom to ever reach any state of maturity.

Should I harvest it now and pop it in the dehydrator? It got way ahead of the other stuff in the SGFC. There are some other pins showing up now that look less.... umm.. irregular.

Thoughts? Opinions? Recipes for good spaghetti sauce?
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Re: Gettin' weird: A total noob's fractured grow log. UPDATE: Need Help Fine Tuning [Re: DrJacoby]
#21347702 - 03/01/15 10:57 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Let it go til the cap is nearly completely open, than pop it off, throw the cap onto tin foil with a cup over, wait 16-24 hrs than eat or dehydrate.
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Re: Gettin' weird: A total noob's fractured grow log. UPDATE: Need Help Fine Tuning [Re: kushroom]
#21347842 - 03/01/15 11:37 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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And send me the print. Lol what is the "strain"? Some of my first gt's looked like that. I never printed it.
Reasons I should have: 1. Big weird mushroom. 2. Fastest growing mushroom. 3. Ended up being very potent.
Maybe do a LC clone.
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Re: Gettin' weird: A total noob's fractured grow log. UPDATE: Need Help Fine Tuning [Re: randoman]
#21348009 - 03/01/15 12:20 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey man I really enjoyed this, good read. And nice job on your first mushrooms!
It depends on what you want to do. If you want a spore print, follow RRs video on spore printing and make sure you do so in a still air box.
Otherwise, put in a paper bag in the fridge or dehydrate right away!
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Re: Gettin' weird: A total noob's fractured grow log. UPDATE: Need Help Fine Tuning [Re: randoman]
#21348437 - 03/01/15 02:19 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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randoman said: And send me the print. Lol what is the "strain"? Some of my first gt's looked like that. I never printed it.
Reasons I should have: 1. Big weird mushroom. 2. Fastest growing mushroom. 3. Ended up being very potent.
Maybe do a LC clone.
umm maybe its the golden teachers cause my first run ive had with golden Teachers were extremely potent but Very small.
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Re: Gettin' weird: A total noob's fractured grow log. UPDATE: Need Help Fine Tuning [Re: kushroom]
#21348463 - 03/01/15 02:26 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Its B+
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