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Mind-Rip
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it's been 2 hours and my pharmahuasca hasn't kicked in
#21172302 - 01/24/15 07:32 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I took 3 grams of rue and over .3 grams of spice at 7 30. I ate a bunch of Chinese food about 4 hours prior. When I took the rue I waited 40 mins before taking the spice. This was all in capsules. Wasn't even sick or anything. Light headedness and slight body load. This is my first time trying pharma but I'm smoked dmt many times. Any idea what's going on?
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Re: it's been 2 hours and my pharmahuasca hasn't kicked in [Re: Mind-Rip]
#21172313 - 01/24/15 07:35 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I hope it works for you!
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Re: it's been 2 hours and my pharmahuasca hasn't kicked in [Re: leery11]
#21172322 - 01/24/15 07:37 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Me too! I hope it kicks in at all.
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Re: it's been 2 hours and my pharmahuasca hasn't kicked in [Re: leery11]
#21172333 - 01/24/15 07:41 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Have you tried to rue before at all? 3 grams should be plenty but there is the possibility you have weak rue and or a very high tolerance for it. Some people don't need much at all and others need a bit more. 2 hours is more than enough time for it to kick in, unless maybe your digestion was super slowed down by the heavy food.
Anyways let us know how it goes, next time I recommend trying 3 and a half to 4 grams on an empty stomach and also .3 is a very high dose of tryptamine, I have seen half a point of pure nn get people past where they expected/ wanted to be.
Of course that too can very person to person. Also look into pure harmalas maybe, it lets you dose more calculated. 2-300mg of harmalas should be plenty for inhibition, also when pure since you can gauge how much you are taking better you can make the experience last however long you want by varying the harmalas dose,, or re dosing, etc.
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Mind-Rip
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Re: it's been 2 hours and my pharmahuasca hasn't kicked in [Re: musiclover420]
#21172366 - 01/24/15 07:50 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yea i don't even remember where I ordered the rue from. I've had it so long. Daaaamn. I'll probably be goin to bed soon so I'll check in right before. Or if anything happens
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Re: it's been 2 hours and my pharmahuasca hasn't kicked in [Re: Mind-Rip]
#21172483 - 01/24/15 08:15 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I should mention those effects I mentioned were prior to ingestion of dmt. So I did feel a little something
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Re: it's been 2 hours and my pharmahuasca hasn't kicked in [Re: Mind-Rip]
#21174941 - 01/25/15 01:50 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry bout not updating last night. Nothing happened. Was up till midnight and nothing. I'll try again in a few weeks with more rue. Unless there's a better place to order from that you guys know of
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Re: it's been 2 hours and my pharmahuasca hasn't kicked in [Re: Mind-Rip]
#21174979 - 01/25/15 02:00 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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isnt rue a mao inhibitor? dosen't Chinese food have MSG? cant you not combine mao inhibihters with MSG? isnt that a thing.
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Re: it's been 2 hours and my pharmahuasca hasn't kicked in [Re: bw86]
#21175114 - 01/25/15 02:36 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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You need 100mg of DMT and probably 4 grams of rue.
Try that next time.
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Re: it's been 2 hours and my pharmahuasca hasn't kicked in [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21177361 - 01/26/15 12:26 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yea I'll give it a try next time. I'm almost happy it didn't work this time just cuz I took a shit ton of dmt. Like 300 mg. Would've been fuckin bananas
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Re: it's been 2 hours and my pharmahuasca hasn't kicked in [Re: Mind-Rip]
#21234474 - 02/06/15 09:42 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: it's been 2 hours and my pharmahuasca hasn't kicked in [Re: Spacerific]
#21235005 - 02/06/15 12:16 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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i would be scared to take moais after having eaten chinese food. not that I think I would die from serotonin syndrome but it can give you an awful headache akin to the worst hangover you can imagine.
maybe take more of the goodies but eat nothing but fruit that day and not for about 4 hours before ingestion.
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Re: it's been 2 hours and my pharmahuasca hasn't kicked in [Re: lurkmode]
#21235272 - 02/06/15 01:30 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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t eat nothing but fruit that day
I'd strongly recommend against this.
Last I checked, fruit are high glycemic index foods, they just burn like hay, fast and furious, they up your blood sugar for a short time, the body ups the insulin level to match it, then the fruit is all burned up and you have a sugar crash right after. IMO one of the best ways to give yourself a bad trip (have low blood sugar).
There's plenty you can eat that day, rice with a bunch of things, chickpeas, lentils, whatever, anything that'll clear the stomach in a few hours but still keep you going strong blood sugar-wise. I'd avoid dairy, meat, alcohol and coffee, I'd lay it on thick with rice, olive oil, lemons and some sort of plant matter. Greens, lentils and chickpeas for me. Keeps ya going strong.
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Re: it's been 2 hours and my pharmahuasca hasn't kicked in [Re: Spacerific]
#21235362 - 02/06/15 01:55 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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low blood sugar = bad trip?
i usually throw some eggs and bread at the situation earlier in the day.
you realize that natives fast right? sounds like they recommend low blood sugar.
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Re: it's been 2 hours and my pharmahuasca hasn't kicked in [Re: lurkmode]
#21235528 - 02/06/15 02:38 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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lurkmode said: low blood sugar = bad trip?
Abso-freaking lutely.
Try things like - moving too much, as in running, then not having food once the hunger strikes - not wearing enough thermal layers in the cold while tripping - talking all the time or staying eyes-open all the time, maybe standing instead of sitting/lying down.
All of these will be using your body's limited supply of energy (blood sugar) and once it's done, you need more. Even if you eat, the involvement with digesting that food will detract from the involvement in the trip. Much better to be listening to your body, have it well fed, packed with energy on trip day, then make sure you use most of that energy for tripping and visions, not for talking, excessive standing around or moving, or having your body fight off cold that you could have insulated from, with gloves/hat/hoodie, etc.
I've had physical cold turn into psychological cold several times on me, and now I know. I sit or lie down, eyes closed, blanket on, for as long as it takes. Eventually I DO get the burst of energy to get up and start moving, and I do follow it, but I go traveling well insulated, and with nuts and oranges and stuff on me, because my blood sugar will get lower later.
I've seen what happens to people who believe themselves Superman and don't think ahead. I've also done it myself, but now since I've learned my lesson, I just see it on others. Our reserves are limited. Whatever work you give your body to do, at the same time as tripping, will take energy and attention from the epic visuals of the trip, or will rob you of an extra 1-2 hours of trip, as you get exhausted earlier.
Trip report that includes travels, forest time and blood sugar insights. It's long so feel free to read it or skim it.
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Re: it's been 2 hours and my pharmahuasca hasn't kicked in [Re: Spacerific]
#21235554 - 02/06/15 02:45 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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i took ~300mg of DMT orally once.
and the world was never the same 
even wrote a trip report 
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15355801
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Re: it's been 2 hours and my pharmahuasca hasn't kicked in [Re: SleepyE] 1
#21235635 - 02/06/15 03:06 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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SleepyE said: i took ~300mg of DMT orally once.
and the world was never the same 
even wrote a trip report 
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15355801
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Re: it's been 2 hours and my pharmahuasca hasn't kicked in [Re: Supachopped719]
#21236458 - 02/06/15 06:26 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crap DMT or Crap rue or you didn't digest the rue in time to be effective
Not really much else it could be....
Don't even know where to start with some of the comments on MAOI
Dont worry much about reversable MAOI and foods...
Maybe don't hog down sauerkraut and salami while on them but...
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