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PsilocyBen17
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Re: WBS Woes [Re: d0urd3n]
#21260237 - 02/11/15 06:52 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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to each there own. I tried it a couple times and had a hard time getting it dry enough. That seems to be a common complaint with WBS, but maybe I'm just a moron.
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d0urd3n
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It always looks too wet before you PC it. I thought I screwed it up the first time I used it.
After you PC it, I like to take it out while it is still hot and give it a good shaking. Let it cool and the next day it will look pretty dry.
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Re: WBS Woes [Re: d0urd3n]
#21260625 - 02/11/15 08:01 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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R0ughHab1tz
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I just buy a generic brand of wild bird seed From boxmart. Says it on the bag.
the way that I prepare my wbs is a little different then standard but it has worked for me since I started all those years ago.
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Re: WBS Woes [Re: d0urd3n]
#21261204 - 02/11/15 10:06 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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PsilocyBen17 said: This thread shouldnt be called WBS Woes, it should be called "WBS Blows" because WBS Blows. Seriously, that shit is filthy and no fun to work with. Toss it out and get some Rye. If you source your rye properly its just as cheap as WBS. I just paid $25 for a 25lbs bag.

WBS is so easy to prep. I put mine in a big pot. Rinse 5-6 times usually. Let it sit for 24 hours. Drain it. Spread it out on newspaper for 30-45 minutes. Load it up and PC. I don't see how it gets easier than that.
Have you prepped anything other than WBS?
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d0urd3n
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d0urd3n said:
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PsilocyBen17 said: This thread shouldnt be called WBS Woes, it should be called "WBS Blows" because WBS Blows. Seriously, that shit is filthy and no fun to work with. Toss it out and get some Rye. If you source your rye properly its just as cheap as WBS. I just paid $25 for a 25lbs bag.

WBS is so easy to prep. I put mine in a big pot. Rinse 5-6 times usually. Let it sit for 24 hours. Drain it. Spread it out on newspaper for 30-45 minutes. Load it up and PC. I don't see how it gets easier than that.
Have you prepped anything other than WBS?
Yeah rye. I haven't hopped on the whole oat bandwagon yet. I might pick some up when I run out of WBS.
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thisisfielding
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Re: WBS Woes [Re: d0urd3n]
#21261892 - 02/11/15 11:54 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I literally just came back to say this. I have tried WBS a couple times and everything gets close to starchy or busted all the way. First time with rye and worked perfectly. Literally its ridiculous how much easier and wonderful it is. I think the same size of all the grain is great for water content but the main thing is that the grain is a decent size so you don't have to deal with clumps of millet. Its easier to clean, easier to prepare and while its not cheaper, I would rather be sure with my preparation than waste a day of soaking only to find that the grains are all burst. I love rye so much now.
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d0urd3n
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Well I am guessing you boiled your WBS, which doesn't seem to work well for most people. Like you said too many burst grains.
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TheEaglesGift
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Re: WBS Woes [Re: d0urd3n]
#21261976 - 02/12/15 12:28 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wbs is a decent grain, it's just more expensive for me so I've stopped using it. I'd use it if it were free or very cheap.
I like how I don't have to rinse oat/rye as much as wbs. I hate watching water go down the drain, it's wasteful. Oat/rye are also much easier to hydrate without worrying about busting.
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thisisfielding
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No boil - or apparent boil to me. The 1st batch was super burst and I think it was due to me brining the water heat up to fast. Neither of them were ever boiled though and there was no cracked corn in it either. My faucet gets so hot that it burns your hand so I think I may of cooked them inadvertently by washing the grains before having them soak. I tried two different brands as well,.. I will keep trying it but I've literally followed the directions from Franks WBS tek exactly. Using the whole rye I purchased though resulted in a perfect batch,. not really sure whats up with it. I just now prefer rye as its not messy and works for me.
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d0urd3n
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Hey whatever works. A lot of people claim rye is an overall better grain. I like both I just can get WBS for a bit cheaper and it's faster for me to prep. I need to check around some feed stores and see if I can get some better deals though.
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Re: WBS Woes [Re: d0urd3n]
#21262358 - 02/12/15 04:57 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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PsilocyBen17 said: This thread shouldnt be called WBS Woes, it should be called "WBS Blows" because WBS Blows. Seriously, that shit is filthy and no fun to work with. Toss it out and get some Rye. If you source your rye properly its just as cheap as WBS. I just paid $25 for a 25lbs bag.

WBS is so easy to prep. I put mine in a big pot. Rinse 5-6 times usually. Let it sit for 24 hours. Drain it. Spread it out on newspaper for 30-45 minutes. Load it up and PC. I don't see how it gets easier than that.
You can skip the spreading it out on newspaper.....just strain for the same amount of time.....and to address the enormously bias/ignorant post above, $1 a pound is not cheap by any means....I get 40lbs of WBS from menards for like $14....and it's always been super easy and perfectly fine to work with....plus it gives triple the inoculation points as rye.....
I can soak WBS for 6-8 hours in hot tap water, strain for 30 minutes, load my jars and PC.......no boil, no simmer......it cannot get much easier....
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thisisfielding
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I'm going to try that method! I think the simmer is really where it all goes to shit. Thanks for the advice!
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d0urd3n
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PussyFart said:
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d0urd3n said:
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PsilocyBen17 said: This thread shouldnt be called WBS Woes, it should be called "WBS Blows" because WBS Blows. Seriously, that shit is filthy and no fun to work with. Toss it out and get some Rye. If you source your rye properly its just as cheap as WBS. I just paid $25 for a 25lbs bag.

WBS is so easy to prep. I put mine in a big pot. Rinse 5-6 times usually. Let it sit for 24 hours. Drain it. Spread it out on newspaper for 30-45 minutes. Load it up and PC. I don't see how it gets easier than that.
You can skip the spreading it out on newspaper.....just strain for the same amount of time.....and to address the enormously bias/ignorant post above, $1 a pound is not cheap by any means....I get 40lbs of WBS from menards for like $14....and it's always been super easy and perfectly fine to work with....plus it gives triple the inoculation points as rye.....
I can soak WBS for 6-8 hours in hot tap water, strain for 30 minutes, load my jars and PC.......no boil, no simmer......it cannot get much easier....
I don't have a strainer that has small enough holes. I just use a screen over my pot to strain out the water. I might have to make a big strainer from the screen sometime. If I was PCing grain every day I would definitely find something better than the newspaper, but it works alright for now.
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Re: WBS Woes [Re: d0urd3n]
#21338879 - 02/27/15 03:03 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just thought I'd add that despite all the starch, look at them go 
 They'd probably be done by now if I could shake them but I couldn't even do that before they started colonizing. I was reading the ingredients and there some additives, vitamin supplements and vegetable oil, I suspect is part of the reason they're so damn sticky.
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PsilocyBen17
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thisisfielding said: I literally just came back to say this. I have tried WBS a couple times and everything gets close to starchy or busted all the way. First time with rye and worked perfectly. Literally its ridiculous how much easier and wonderful it is. I think the same size of all the grain is great for water content but the main thing is that the grain is a decent size so you don't have to deal with clumps of millet. Its easier to clean, easier to prepare and while its not cheaper, I would rather be sure with my preparation than waste a day of soaking only to find that the grains are all burst. I love rye so much now.
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Re: WBS Woes [Re: Kizzle]
#21339454 - 02/27/15 05:18 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kizzle said: Just thought I'd add that despite all the starch, look at them go 
 They'd probably be done by now if I could shake them but I couldn't even do that before they started colonizing. I was reading the ingredients and there some additives, vitamin supplements and vegetable oil, I suspect is part of the reason they're so damn sticky.
Am I missing something here? That cake on the right is very contaminated....
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Kizzle
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The two jars on the right are green tinted if that's what you're talking about. I didn't notice until I had already bought them
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