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Failed trip told me everything I needed to know.
#21230431 - 02/05/15 12:50 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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A week or so ago I tried out some pharmahuasca and It didn't work. The reason I tried it was because 1) I've been meaning to and 2) I was going to seek some advice about an upcoming serious conversation with a close friend that I was having longterm difficulties with. (Turns out it was all in my head)
AAAAAnyway... it didn't work. Took a bunch of both Syrian rue and dmt in capsules. I was anticipating some serious shit for about 3 hours and nothing happened. This was sort of frustrating since I had been wanting this experience for ever a year at this point.
So I thought about why I had done it in the first place, just sort of in passing. Then this thought came to me.
"You have everything you need to handle this"
This was very comforting. I felt like it came from some other thing Because it was phrased to me. it also concrete my belief in that nothing holds any intrinsic meaning and that whatever meaning is that which we create. Any thoughts?
-------------------- The mushroom is love. The mushroom is life. Eateth of the fruit body And you will become one with everything.
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Re: Failed trip told me everything I needed to know. [Re: Mind-Rip]
#21230982 - 02/05/15 02:52 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Was the Syrian Rue powdered properly or whole undigestable seeds?
Did you take the Rue, wait for them to kick in (you DO feel them, they definitely bring some stuff on once they hit you) and THEN take then DMT, or just poured them all together?
As for what your insights said, indeed you do have all you need to figure things out. Follow your intuition and in-the-moment wisdom and awareness, it will tell you what to do. Be OK with being friends, be equally OK with parting ways for a while (or even for good) and if you're open like that, differences have a way of taking care of themselves.
Be as you are, it'll all work out 
Also, if at first you don't trip balls, try, try again
-------------------- Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.
For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. - Matthew 13:16
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Re: Failed trip told me everything I needed to know. [Re: Spacerific]
#21233901 - 02/06/15 05:40 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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thanks, yea if you read the link. I took about 3 grMs of Syrian rue good 45 min before thing the dmt. I did feel the rue but it wasn't real intense. I just felt kinda silly. Not sick or anything. But that was after I took the dmt. Next time I'm gonna grind them up and throw some lemon on them and make a tea. Is there some minimal amount of water i can use so I don't have to drink very much?
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Re: Failed trip told me everything I needed to know. [Re: Mind-Rip]
#21234496 - 02/06/15 09:48 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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But again, did you powder up the Syrian Rue with a coffee grinder?
Sorry if it seems like a basic and retarded question to ask, I've seen people who forget the basics then go doh' 
3 grams rue, if powdered, should be plenty for most people. Just keep in mind that there's huge variation as to how people respond. Once I took rue with shrooms with this girl, I could barely feel the rue at all while the girl actually got fractalic color tracers, OEV's just from the rue alone. We both got the exact same dose. Can't predict exactly how these things will work out. If at first you don't succeed, just take more
-------------------- Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.
For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. - Matthew 13:16
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Re: Failed trip told me everything I needed to know. [Re: Spacerific]
#21234899 - 02/06/15 11:41 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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No I didn't grind them up. Just the whole seeds in capsules. If they were bigger I would have but I looked and saw how small they were and I didn't think it would matter. Can i get away with just powdering them and putting them in caps?
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Re: Failed trip told me everything I needed to know. [Re: Mind-Rip]
#21235234 - 02/06/15 01:20 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah dude, powder, put in caps, enjoy. 3 grams is plenty IF they actually break down and the MAOI reach your stomach and bloodstream. As it is, you just ate seeds, they passed right through you, of course you didn't feel anything. I'm pretty sure they're designed/evolved to be eaten, pass through intact, then still be viable and sprout in the fertile shit later.
Grind those fuckers thoroughly with either mortar and pestle or coffee grinder. Powder them to kingdom come. When they hit you you'll definitely know what's up, they have perceptual changes (about interior and exterior stimuli), your mind gets more silent, you physically want to sit or lie down and be more still, breathe much deeper longer breaths, to perceive the finer details of every moment as it is. If at that point you get the DMT, then you'll see how deep the wabbit hole goes.
I should say I haven't tried this Syrian Rue + crystal DMT in pill form, only Ayahuasca brew and Syrian Rue + Shroomies. IMO the Rue + Shroomies combo is about halfway between normal shroomies and full on Aya, there's a certain fractalic buzz folding and looping and repeating through you, that's very specific to the MAOI. Personally I find it extremely empowering, it's like an informational highway passing right through you, the whole Aztec and Egyptian and alien knowledge folding and spiraling hyeroglyphic helixes through your body, with this rao-rao-rao-rao chanting sound, zig-zagging inside you, resonating and echoing all over for hours and hours.
Pretty epic to behold and embody, highly recommended 
If you're not sure about wasting more DMT, you can explore this, MAOI+shrooms, it will be different than shrooms alone, the feel of the trip will be different, not just more of the same intensity-wise.
-------------------- Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.
For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. - Matthew 13:16
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