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Do you think that weed gets pointless?
    #21229127 - 02/05/15 03:02 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Do you think that because you can never ever get your first time mind blowing highs back weed is pointless? i mean i'm sure the reason most smokers continued to smoke is because they assumed it would be amazing like the first few times forever so if your not getting high wtf is even the point of smoking anymore?? if your not using it for medical reasons there is no point in smoking it anymore..... i mean i still get some kind of effect but it doesn't really feel like a high and not very enjoyable at all

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Re: Do you think that weed gets pointless? [Re: shroomman4201]
    #21229153 - 02/05/15 03:19 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I still get blazed 3 or 4 years later. Especially if I'm not smoking ALL day

And after a week without, I get pretty mind blown - never as much as when I first started but still quite psychedelic and can allow unique head spaces


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Re: Do you think that weed gets pointless? [Re: shroomman4201]
    #21229170 - 02/05/15 03:28 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

i just love the feeling of being stoned and smoking phat beug after beug. mixed with tobacco preferabbly mmmmmmm love it

of course it was way more trippy and new the first few times but i still do it everyday after years and still get hella blazed, its really in the way you look at it


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Re: Do you think that weed gets pointless? [Re: innerspeaker1967]
    #21229187 - 02/05/15 03:39 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like you built up a pretty high tolerance... or you are smoking bammer weed. I can smoke all day and still feel nice and stoned. Now if I take around a week break I get ridiculously high and I have been smoking for 5 years.
As to your question on what is the point if its not for a medical condition? Well it lets me view the world in a different perspective and it also helps me relax. I assume most people who smoke it though do it for the euphoric high that we all love. Also did you know some people don't even get high their first time smoking cannabis? However, I know I will never get as high as when I did the first time I smoked marijuana and that's okay because I still get just as high as I want to be. Have you tried concentrated marijuana aka "dabs" "wax" "oil". Try that stuff and you will be higher than the first time you smoked pot.


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Re: Do you think that weed gets pointless? [Re: PsiloPNW] * 2
    #21229315 - 02/05/15 05:52 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

If you start getting burned out on weed, then it is time to take a break.
I recommend at least one month of sober living, but longer is even better.

After your period of sobriety, it feels hella nice getting high again :smile:


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Re: Do you think that weed gets pointless? [Re: Turtletotem]
    #21229353 - 02/05/15 06:20 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

1) The reason you will not feel as if you can mimic first time is because it was new to you. I bet you have been a lot higher since then, but you knew the effects and more or less what to expect so you only THINK you are not as high. Best comparison you can do is body high, could you walk the first time?

2)Highly depends if you are a lazy person. I used to just lay in sofa with everything i might need around Me. Now a days i do carpentry when the incredible creativity kicks in.

3) Tolerance. With experimentation from the past i came to the results ( my mind and body) :

If you smoke joints, smoking the second one will not be able to get you as high even on larger dose. Just gets the mind, brain ( receptors)  tired and body more relaxed, depending on tabacco maybe even a bit sick.

Smoking 4 days in a row with high doses ( up to 1g)  burns me out and gets my tolerance to high point, takes at least a week break to get desired effects again.

4) what is the point? It is the same as asking a coffee drinker whats the point to drink coffee.

Still having a reason for it like meditation, sleep, muscle relaxation or mind calming is better self-respect wise. If you smoke just because your friends smoke for example, then it is pointless and very sad. +rep for writting this on my freaking 2 inch screen


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Re: Do you think that weed gets pointless? [Re: Arenis]
    #21229357 - 02/05/15 06:23 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Never


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Re: Do you think that weed gets pointless? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21229651 - 02/05/15 09:10 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I've never been a weed user and I think it is pointless, by observing other weed users. They never seem to have anything insightful to say and all they do is make claims about supposed physical and mental health benefits that they don't really exhibit with evidence. Meanwhile they suffer problems with short term memory, motivation, and addictions.


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Re: Do you think that weed gets pointless? [Re: PsychoKinesiS]
    #21229826 - 02/05/15 10:07 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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I've never been a weed user and I think it is pointless, by observing other weed users. They never seem to have anything insightful to say and all they do is make claims about supposed physical and mental health benefits that they don't really exhibit with evidence. Meanwhile they suffer problems with short term memory, motivation, and addictions.




It really depends on the individual. As i wrote above if the person is lazy or prefers lazyness cannabis will multiply that, on the other hand that is only your beliefs/ego talking. You are not someone above others to decide what a person should or shouldnt be like. Im no different though.


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Re: Do you think that weed gets pointless? [Re: Arenis]
    #21229845 - 02/05/15 10:12 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

i smoke about every once and awhile now. it is more enjoyable if i do. its like the mindset of tripping without the visuals for me.


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Re: Do you think that weed gets pointless? [Re: PsychoKinesiS]
    #21229851 - 02/05/15 10:14 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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I've never been a weed user and I think it is pointless, by observing other weed users. They never seem to have anything insightful to say and all they do is make claims about supposed physical and mental health benefits that they don't really exhibit with evidence. Meanwhile they suffer problems with short term memory, motivation, and addictions.




:burke: yes because everyone who smokes is like this...

Or could the people you smoked with be boring? I have a group of friends that includes a philosopher, a chemist, a poet/painter, and a psychologist, and a weed/shroom grower. When we get together for a fat smoke session plenty of insightful ideas are flung around with our blunts.


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Re: Do you think that weed gets pointless? [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21229865 - 02/05/15 10:19 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

:burke: yes because everyone who smokes is like this...

Or could the people you smoked with be boring? I have a group of friends that includes a philosopher, a chemist, a poet/painter, and a psychologist, and a weed/shroom grower. When we get together for a fat smoke session plenty of insightful ideas are flung around with our blunts.




shit man id smoke everyday if i had friends like that


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Re: Do you think that weed gets pointless? [Re: shroomman4201]
    #21229882 - 02/05/15 10:23 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I smoke weed every day and I still get high and yea its still enjoyable  :shrug:


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Re: Do you think that weed gets pointless? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21230072 - 02/05/15 11:16 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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I smoke weed every day and I still get high and yea its still enjoyable  :shrug:




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Re: Do you think that weed gets pointless? [Re: shroomman4201]
    #21230155 - 02/05/15 11:42 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Do you think that because you can never ever get your first time mind blowing highs back weed is pointless? i mean i'm sure the reason most smokers continued to smoke is because they assumed it would be amazing like the first few times forever so if your not getting high wtf is even the point of smoking anymore?? if your not using it for medical reasons there is no point in smoking it anymore..... i mean i still get some kind of effect but it doesn't really feel like a high and not very enjoyable at all




1. I think you are young.
This is not a bad thing.

2. You (IMHO) mischaracterize cannabis use as "chasing the dragon"
And I'm not referring to lighting Heroin on a piece of foil. Think: crack cocaine type chasing the dragon, but since dopamine is suffering exponentially from the law of diminishing returns after each subsequent hit, the user "chases a dragon" that cannot be caught.

3. While I tend to agree that my most mind-blowing high from cannabis happened during my first use in 1983ish, I do not see the correlation between never having that profound an effect ever again (perhaps) and therefore concluding there can be no value had by continuing to use it for the rest of your life. Think: Sex. There will never (perhaps) be another more profound sexual experience than losing your virginity--But, no one decides therefore, I see no point in having sex anymore.

4. I would make a few more points, except I'm late for getting stoned and laid.
Be back to check later..

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Re: Do you think that weed gets pointless? [Re: Synapse Trap]
    #21230203 - 02/05/15 11:59 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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I would make a few more points, except I'm late for getting stoned and laid.
Be back to check later..

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Re: Do you think that weed gets pointless? [Re: PsychoKinesiS]
    #21230229 - 02/05/15 12:05 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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I've never been a weed user and I think it is pointless, by observing other weed users. They never seem to have anything insightful to say and all they do is make claims about supposed physical and mental health benefits that they don't really exhibit with evidence. Meanwhile they suffer problems with short term memory, motivation, and addictions.




I share a very similar view as you do.

I smoke very seldom, the only time I have really gotten super high on weed was when I was vaping like it was an e-cig and I had a 3g tea.
The whole high felt very weird, not quite just a weed high but certainly not a clean mushroom high.

Otherwise I do not really get all that high, or do not feel it as much as others perhaps. :shrug:
Quite a few of my friends who smoke on a regular basis seem to be addicted whether they will admit to it or not. My one friend is unable to sleep without either being drunk or smoking before she goes to bed. She said that "she only smokes to sleep" yet that is certainly not true.

Another will beg and borrow money to get some green.
The one has started smoking recently again (past few months) and it is causing issues with his relationship. His GF does not like him doing it as it changes the way he acts and does things, not for the better either. Yet he refuses to stop.

Maybe my weed smoker friends are just bad weed smokers :P
Although they are the ones who smoke regularly. Myself and my other friend hardly smoke at all and it does not bother us one bit whether we have any or not. The only time I really enjoy smoking a bit is when I am coming down from some MDMA although I do not need it.


Is weed pointless overall? No, I do not think so.
I do however feel as if a lot of people abuse it and get addicted to it whether they want to admit it or not and it certainly can have some negative side effects.

However I am all for legalizing it. Let people have a choice whether they want to smoke it or not - the same choice people have with tobacco and alcohol.


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Re: Do you think that weed gets pointless? [Re: PsychoKinesiS]
    #21230552 - 02/05/15 01:21 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Vaping out of a volcano was the first way I'd ever done weed and blew me the fuck away. I knew I wanted to continue a relationship with marijuana so I purchased one of my own asap. That was like 4 years ago and I've been high almost every day since. It's very efficient, $5 to keep me high all day even at my tolerance.
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I've never been a weed user and I think it is pointless, by observing other weed users. They never seem to have anything insightful to say and all they do is make claims about supposed physical and mental health benefits that they don't really exhibit with evidence. Meanwhile they suffer problems with short term memory, motivation, and addictions.



What would be something insightful? I'm usually more quiet when high because of how obvious it becomes that people try way too hard to be something in social situations. I'm comfortable being completely myself when high; I don't feel self conscious or anxious to appease people's expectations. Perhaps the biggest reason I continue to inhale is for that unfiltered perspective on social interaction - seeing through people's fronts and facades. Smoking weed makes you genuine.

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Re: Do you think that weed gets pointless? [Re: Icon]
    #21230667 - 02/05/15 01:46 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I smoke dank hash every day and have been smoking regularly since i was 13 (19 at the end of march). Love everything about gnaja,  the taste, sensation of taking a fat dab, trying new strains and types of concentrates and edibles. Love cannabis in conjunction with any other drug I have tried the weed has enhanced the experience. I do not think i could trip without weed to smoke on hand it would give me weird anxiety I'm sure (never tried it).

I love cannabis but I do believe it's created a sort of positive feedback loop for my anxiety where if I'm not getting high all the time or about to get high all the time I can feel intense waves of negative or overall more introspective thoughts and emotions that would otherwise be sort of dulled by constant stoneyness. I discovered this on a month long tolerance break I had taken that sort of opened my eyes to how used to smoking every day my body had gotten.

Cannabis use is gonna be different for everybody. where I find that cannabis sort of quells my anxiety and that's where I find an application for it different people will use for different purposes with different frequency and get different effects. Personally I don't find that the "loss of motivation" thing really applies to me as I function in a pretty "normal" manner despite my habit, working, meditating, painting, exercising, reading and learning new things every day all while high asf


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Re: Do you think that weed gets pointless? [Re: HVND]
    #21231043 - 02/05/15 03:09 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah but who cares


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