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HPPD is a beautiful thing... * 1
    #21219725 - 02/03/15 07:01 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Sitting here staring at this painting in the hallway at work... While I can't figure out what the painting is or means...
I do see the beauty in watching the gray parts drift around the canvas.

I'm no Doctor. But having started mushrooms again, this ability has come back stronger than ever.

By ability, I mean Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder.
Trips that don't end (completely).

One of the many gifts that mushrooms has given me. (Along with a curbed ADD, better dreams, better outlook on life)

It should be called HPPA. "Ability", sounds and fits better than "Disorder".



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Re: HPPD is a beautiful thing... [Re: topherchris]
    #21219738 - 02/03/15 07:07 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Tripping just makes you realize all the impefections in the world and how broke it really is, yet it's all beautiful in a way. I mean all the fractals of streetlights blend together in their own sort of artwork, and i love being able to see the world in a new way.


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Re: HPPD is a beautiful thing... [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #21219742 - 02/03/15 07:09 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

That's quite true.

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Re: HPPD is a beautiful thing... [Re: topherchris]
    #21220411 - 02/03/15 10:50 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

No. Hppd clouds your vision making it harder to see details causing you to spend a longer amount of time performing visual tasks and thinking and to make more errors. I don't like that.


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Re: HPPD is a beautiful thing... [Re: PsychoKinesiS]
    #21220723 - 02/03/15 12:02 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm. Guess it depends on the effects and drugs.

I used to be an untameable ADD punk.
*Curbed.*

The visual aspect, is purely within means of function. Even if I was seeing colored bugs from an overwhelming acid trip. I could still see through that and function.

It's a lot of something compared to people who see the normal nothing I guess.

My brain is clicking much quicker than ever. And I'm finally working my way up to getting a Linux admin job.

I just have that moment of peaceful beauty when I look up and stare at something on the wall, and focus on breathing.

It's like a .5-1g trip.

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Re: HPPD is a beautiful thing... [Re: topherchris]
    #21220787 - 02/03/15 12:13 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I feel much in the same way about my curbed ADD and my minor visual distortions...I feel that my perception of the passage of time, from both tackling the hobby and enjoying it's fruits, is more appreciative. The thing is, I can appreciate and utilize stressful time better and feel more at ease when I am relaxing. It is nice - passive awareness that lingers on with you.


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Re: HPPD is a beautiful thing... [Re: Volition]
    #21222350 - 02/03/15 05:39 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Please explain how this has curbed your ADD. Also, were you ever diagnosed by a specialist?


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Re: HPPD is a beautiful thing... [Re: Volition]
    #21222479 - 02/03/15 06:15 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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I feel much in the same way about my curbed ADD and my minor visual distortions...I feel that my perception of the passage of time, from both tackling the hobby and enjoying it's fruits, is more appreciative. The thing is, I can appreciate and utilize stressful time better and feel more at ease when I am relaxing. It is nice - passive awareness that lingers on with you.




I can't speak for ADD or similar quirks, but I can say that I can appreciate a lot less much more than I could when I was younger.

Also, Protest the Hero :rockon:


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Re: HPPD is a beautiful thing... [Re: lillFish]
    #21222893 - 02/03/15 07:43 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Please explain how this has curbed your ADD. Also, were you ever diagnosed by a specialist?




Yes I was diagnosed with ADD and took the amphetamines, ritlin, etc.

But my dad took me off of it because he didn't believe in them. I struggled in school constantly afterwards, just staying on task.
It followed me for 7 or 8 years after school.

Picked up lots of shrooms and DMT a year or so ago.
It came to a sudden halt. Even when I put the DMT products down.

TRUST ME, there's no way I could learn to code in my previous state.
NO way.

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Re: HPPD is a beautiful thing... [Re: topherchris]
    #21222912 - 02/03/15 07:46 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I wish I could trip on demand.


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Re: HPPD is a beautiful thing... [Re: mushroomfred]
    #21224171 - 02/04/15 12:56 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I get mild visual distortions everynow and again from various psychedelics, It can be annoying at times but in saying that it does make for some interesting day's when at work. I am more glad than anything I have never been to "debilitated"/"distorted" to work or function in normal social setting's, psyche's have made me more appreciative of time and the values of what I would have usually passed off as a useless experience.

all in all they have helped me more than hinder :awethumb: do that's a plus with any drug you take, all drugs have uses and some people can't handle/react badly to them. It's all about finding what work for you in the long term


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Re: HPPD is a beautiful thing... [Re: PsychoKinesiS]
    #21224206 - 02/04/15 01:19 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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No. Hppd clouds your vision making it harder to see details causing you to spend a longer amount of time performing visual tasks and thinking and to make more errors. I don't like that.




It doesn't literally cloud your vision. It changes the way you perceive visual information. It is in your brain, not your eyes. Once you get used to having HPPD, it doesn't interfere with your vision or thinking. It's just a slightly different way of perceiving reality. It's called perceptual adaptation.

Plus it's really pretty.


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Re: HPPD is a beautiful thing... [Re: topherchris]
    #21224338 - 02/04/15 03:11 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Yes I was diagnosed with ADD and took the amphetamines, ritlin, etc.

But my dad took me off of it because he didn't believe in them. I struggled in school constantly afterwards, just staying on task.
It followed me for 7 or 8 years after school.

Picked up lots of shrooms and DMT a year or so ago.
It came to a sudden halt. Even when I put the DMT products down.

TRUST ME, there's no way I could learn to code in my previous state.
NO way.




I think I relate to you deeply. I've been using low dose oral DMT for the past few days. It lasts for only one hour, so I've been using it repeatedly. And I feel like I need to keep subdosing DMT or another psychedelic. I feel like things might not work out too well for me if I don't... This quote suggests that psychedelics genuinely train the mind:


For myself, I found training in Tibetan Buddhist meditation a potent adjunct to psychedelic exploration. In learning to hold my mind empty, I became aware that other levels of reality would more readily manifest. It was only in absolute stillness, accompanied by a special, highly developed quality of listening, that many subtle but extremely valuable nuances of reality appeared. While I achieved this to some extent in ordinary practice, I found this effect to be greatly amplified while under the influence of a psychedelic substance. This in turn intensified my daily meditation practice.

Using Psychedelics Wisely: A veteran researcher explains how psychedelics can be used to give beneficial results. Myron Stolaroff. Gnosis, No. 26, Winter, 1993.

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Re: HPPD is a beautiful thing... [Re: s240779]
    #21224641 - 02/04/15 07:05 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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topherchris said:
Yes I was diagnosed with ADD and took the amphetamines, ritlin, etc.

But my dad took me off of it because he didn't believe in them. I struggled in school constantly afterwards, just staying on task.
It followed me for 7 or 8 years after school.

Picked up lots of shrooms and DMT a year or so ago.
It came to a sudden halt. Even when I put the DMT products down.

TRUST ME, there's no way I could learn to code in my previous state.
NO way.




I think I relate to you deeply. I've been using low dose oral DMT for the past few days. It lasts for only one hour, so I've been using it repeatedly. And I feel like I need to keep subdosing DMT or another psychedelic. I feel like things might not work out too well for me if I don't... This quote suggests that psychedelics genuinely train the mind:






This part...
Do you not build tolerance to oral DMT?
What are the effects of light dosing? Like, are you getting to the point where your carpet gets big and lumpy, patterns on the wall, and wood floor looks like it's bending upwards?

I used to vape DMT a LOT. But I built no tolerance to it, I'd do it once every 30 mins to an hour. And I did that for about a year. Most nights were dmt packed. I stopped ULTIMATELY to prove to my fiance it's not addicting or dangerous.

The reason I ask is because I like those comedown visuals after vaping, and I've heard oral lasts longer.

And THAT is the reason I thought you build tolerance to mushrooms.

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Re: HPPD is a beautiful thing... [Re: topherchris]
    #21224656 - 02/04/15 07:15 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

No, you don't seem to build tolerance to oral DMT. With the doses I'm doing, stuff just looks a little more intense and clear. And phosphenes (the static you see when your eyes are closed normally) are amped up a little. Higher doses have lead to me almost having a bad trip, even just a little higher.

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Re: HPPD is a beautiful thing... [Re: s240779]
    #21227314 - 02/04/15 06:47 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Static/phosphenes?
Like the outlines of patterns?
I haven't really low dosed before.

What are your bad trips like?

A few times I thought it'd be fun to smoke DMT, couple hits, and walk around.
But I always INSTANTLY fell guilty. Like "wtf am I abusing it like this for?..." And I end up laying down. Mostly guilt. DMT enforced guilt.

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Re: HPPD is a beautiful thing... [Re: topherchris]
    #21227469 - 02/04/15 07:12 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I've had many oral dmt trips where had to lay on the floor and feel like shit. However, I've also had a couple low-moderate dose oral dmt trips where I made it past the comeup into a blissful state and was able to get up and dance around my house. It almost felt like a replacement for LSD or MDMA. The trick seemed to be to take the DMT+MAOI at the same time and to take a low dose of MAOI, redosing as needed to extend the duration.


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Re: HPPD is a beautiful thing... [Re: PsychoKinesiS]
    #21227495 - 02/04/15 07:18 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

the static you see when you close your eyes is amped up a little.

I can't really recall what they're like too clearly but getting scared and confused. Not being able to think straight. Loss of body awareness, which is disturbing. Being tuned in to horrible thoughts like that of a slaughter house. I find that true low doses are completely unlikely to produce those effects.


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The trick seemed to be to take the DMT+MAOI at the same time and to take a low dose of MAOI, redosing as needed to extend the duration.




I can't relate to that at all and you should always wait for the MAO in the gut to be subdued/destroyed (it depends on the MAOI) before you take the DMT, and I think it takes like 15 min. for that to happen (letting the MAOI coat the intestines). You can always wait for the MAOI to peak systemically, and that offers maximum synergy, which are of course quite contained with a low dose.

And yes, I find that the reputation that the DMT state is too ceremonial or chaotic to be used the way other psychedelics are is complete nonsense.

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Re: HPPD is a beautiful thing... [Re: s240779]
    #21227572 - 02/04/15 07:35 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Also there are some things that can be done to get rid of the body load and puking that oral DMT is known for. They have to do with diet and colonic irrigation. :wink:

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Re: HPPD is a beautiful thing... [Re: s240779]
    #21227715 - 02/04/15 08:06 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

So oral differs greatly from smoking it sounds? I usually don't have feel crappy moments with DMT unless I walk on it.

The bad DMT trips I have are bad because the visuals are bad. Like when I see this perfectly gray road, with perfectly green grass and a perfectly red stop sigh... Then I see a kid on a hinge flopping back and forth on the street.

I can handle it. But its just a tad disturbing.

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