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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: The Ecstatic]
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my polictcal interest died with Ron Paul. someone me help find someone who is actually worth it?
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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: Algo] 1
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AlgoRythm said: my polictcal interest died with Ron Paul. someone me help find someone who is actually worth it?
Ron Paul is a deranged racist with a couple good ideas.
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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: The Ecstatic]
#21225404 - 02/04/15 11:15 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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have you found a politician that you aggree with 100%? cause i haven't
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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: The Ecstatic]
#21225694 - 02/04/15 12:46 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: I agree with everything but the last sentence. Romney was their only viable shot last time around. Pawlenty? Paul? Ryan? Huckabee? Palin? Bachmann? Santorum?

Ya i guess you are right, he was the least retarded. Bush was and is a viable candidate, he didn’t enter because unseating an incumbent is damn hard.
Right Bill?

Republicans were going all in on 2016. If they somehow fuck this one up I’m going to laugh so hard. Against a Woman, after 8 years of a democratic presidency.
Hell, Romney could win this one even after saying half of americans are asshats
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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: Algo]
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AlgoRythm said: have you found a politician that you aggree with 100%? cause i haven't
No, but I also haven't given up hope on the political system because an extremely flawed candidate I support didn't win.
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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: The Ecstatic]
#21225818 - 02/04/15 01:13 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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@elax
Short of a smooth talking movie star like Reagan, the Republicans have no chance in 2016, let alone an answer to Hilary. Their best chance is someone like Bernie Sanders winning the Democratic nomination, then demonizing him for his evil socialism.
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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: The Ecstatic]
#21225887 - 02/04/15 01:26 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said:
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AlgoRythm said: my polictcal interest died with Ron Paul. someone me help find someone who is actually worth it?
Ron Paul is a deranged racist with a couple good ideas.
Well you and I can agree on one thing.
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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: zappaisgod]
#21225926 - 02/04/15 01:33 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
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The Ecstatic said:
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AlgoRythm said: my polictcal interest died with Ron Paul. someone me help find someone who is actually worth it?
Ron Paul is a deranged racist with a couple good ideas.
Well you and I can agree on one thing.
It was funny in 08 to watch the Paul supporters jump ship to the Obama camp, as if their ideologies were in any way similar.
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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: The Ecstatic]
#21225975 - 02/04/15 01:42 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: @elax
Short of a smooth talking movie star like Reagan, the Republicans have no chance in 2016, let alone an answer to Hilary. Their best chance is someone like Bernie Sanders winning the Democratic nomination, then demonizing him for his evil socialism.
our country is an oligarchy no politcian will challange that. I dont care what their political party is as long they are willing to give the power back to the people i will vote for them. they are all puppets. Do you think obama care was really to benefit the people? cause if you do your out of your mind. it was to benefit corporations just like almost every other bill that gets passed. why do we go to war? to make money!!!! why do you think congress deregulated the banks???? to benefit the the freaking banks. until you see that, your just a sheep like the rest of the population who is unable to use critical thinking. its people like you that the corporations want to go out and vote. cause they just laugh and say how stupid you are for giving them whatever they want! lets talk about this further this shit is fun! LOL
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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: Algo]
#21225994 - 02/04/15 01:46 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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AlgoRythm said:
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The Ecstatic said: @elax
Short of a smooth talking movie star like Reagan, the Republicans have no chance in 2016, let alone an answer to Hilary. Their best chance is someone like Bernie Sanders winning the Democratic nomination, then demonizing him for his evil socialism.
our country is an oligarchy no politcian will challange that. I dont care what their political party is as long they are willing to give the power back to the people i will vote for them. they are all puppets. Do you think obama care was really to benefit the people? cause if you do your out of your mind. it was to benefit corporations just like almost every other bill that gets passed. why do we go to war? to make money!!!! why do you think congress deregulated the banks???? to benefit the the freaking banks. until you see that, your just a sheep like the rest of the population who is unable to use critical thinking. its people like you that the corporations want to go out and vote. cause they just laugh and say how stupid you are for giving them whatever they want! lets talk about this further this shit is fun! LOL
This reads like a facebook comment on a Salon article.
I'm well aware of the issues, but you seem a little bit confused.
You want the people to have power, but you admit supporting a libertarian who wants to deregulate and shrink the government.
Amazing.
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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: Algo]
#21226005 - 02/04/15 01:48 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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AlgoRythm said: my polictcal interest died with Ron Paul. someone me help find someone who is actually worth it?
His child, Rand Paul.
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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: happydegenerate]
#21226015 - 02/04/15 01:50 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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AlgoRythm said: my polictcal interest died with Ron Paul. someone me help find someone who is actually worth it?
His child, Rand Paul.
Who's that? My political fluency extends to bumper stickers and their associated quips.
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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: The Ecstatic]
#21226018 - 02/04/15 01:50 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said:
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The Ecstatic said: @elax
Short of a smooth talking movie star like Reagan, the Republicans have no chance in 2016, let alone an answer to Hilary. Their best chance is someone like Bernie Sanders winning the Democratic nomination, then demonizing him for his evil socialism.
our country is an oligarchy no politcian will challange that. I dont care what their political party is as long they are willing to give the power back to the people i will vote for them. they are all puppets. Do you think obama care was really to benefit the people? cause if you do your out of your mind. it was to benefit corporations just like almost every other bill that gets passed. why do we go to war? to make money!!!! why do you think congress deregulated the banks???? to benefit the the freaking banks. until you see that, your just a sheep like the rest of the population who is unable to use critical thinking. its people like you that the corporations want to go out and vote. cause they just laugh and say how stupid you are for giving them whatever they want! lets talk about this further this shit is fun! LOL
This reads like a facebook comment on a Salon article.
I'm well aware of the issues, but you seem a little bit confused.
You want the people to have power, but you admit supporting a libertarian who wants to deregulate and shrink the government.
Amazing. 
Shrinking the government does put power back n the hands of the people. Government power is the antithesis of people power. The more power the government has the less power the people have.
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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: The Ecstatic]
#21226026 - 02/04/15 01:51 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said:
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The Ecstatic said:
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AlgoRythm said: my polictcal interest died with Ron Paul. someone me help find someone who is actually worth it?
Ron Paul is a deranged racist with a couple good ideas.
Well you and I can agree on one thing.
It was funny in 08 to watch the Paul supporters jump ship to the Obama camp, as if their ideologies were in any way similar.
I did not see that phenomenon. Mostly the Paulbots just stayed home.
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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: happydegenerate]
#21226046 - 02/04/15 01:55 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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ah, see I didnt agree with everything that ron stood for. but i would rather have someone who is has an anti war stance than people like bush or obama who wants to kill people in other countries. i went o Iraq i saw my friends die i watched innocent people get sliced in half by a 240Bravo. that shit is not cool and he was the only antiwar canadite we had. like i said it is hard to find someone to 100% agree with. the war thing was first and foremost, then was his stance on the fed, and his view towards drugs, that was about it. deregulating i wasnt quite for.
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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#21226061 - 02/04/15 01:57 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said:
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The Ecstatic said: @elax
Short of a smooth talking movie star like Reagan, the Republicans have no chance in 2016, let alone an answer to Hilary. Their best chance is someone like Bernie Sanders winning the Democratic nomination, then demonizing him for his evil socialism.
our country is an oligarchy no politcian will challange that. I dont care what their political party is as long they are willing to give the power back to the people i will vote for them. they are all puppets. Do you think obama care was really to benefit the people? cause if you do your out of your mind. it was to benefit corporations just like almost every other bill that gets passed. why do we go to war? to make money!!!! why do you think congress deregulated the banks???? to benefit the the freaking banks. until you see that, your just a sheep like the rest of the population who is unable to use critical thinking. its people like you that the corporations want to go out and vote. cause they just laugh and say how stupid you are for giving them whatever they want! lets talk about this further this shit is fun! LOL
This reads like a facebook comment on a Salon article.
I'm well aware of the issues, but you seem a little bit confused.
You want the people to have power, but you admit supporting a libertarian who wants to deregulate and shrink the government.
Amazing. 
Shrinking the government does put power back n the hands of the people. Government power is the antithesis of people power. The more power the government has the less power the people have.
In a vacuum, yes. But in the context of his argument, which is that corporations have coopted the government for their own ends, he's supporting a candidate that wants to eradicate AIDS by erasing the immune system.
Government is the means to beat back corporate influence, you don't take it away or make it weaker because it isn't working right now.
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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: The Ecstatic]
#21226163 - 02/04/15 02:17 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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obvioulsy government is the only way to fight back against corporations. you just have to have right people in power to achieve that. and currently there is to many politcians who are influenced and/or threated by corporations to fight back. shriking the government can mean many things, thats a whole different topic all together. so let me ask you this, do you believe we have an oligarchy here?
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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: zappaisgod]
#21226256 - 02/04/15 02:36 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: @elax
Short of a smooth talking movie star like Reagan, the Republicans have no chance in 2016, let alone an answer to Hilary. Their best chance is someone like Bernie Sanders winning the Democratic nomination, then demonizing him for his evil socialism.
You really think so?
I dont think Americans will vote for a woman yet bro. Sounds bad but i dont think they are ready yet, especially for one like Hillary.
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zappaisgod said: Shrinking the government does put power back n the hands of the people. Government power is the antithesis of people power. The more power the government has the less power the people have.
I think you would really like Locke judging for your opinions on property rights.
He makes a pretty good argument of the necessity of a centralized state that ties into the concept of personal property.
Even though I disagree with it Rousseau makes a bitching counter argument. Literally no one but the most illiterate types of people argue for the abolition of government.
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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: Algo]
#21226460 - 02/04/15 03:23 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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AlgoRythm said: obvioulsy government is the only way to fight back against corporations. you just have to have right people in power to achieve that. and currently there is to many politcians who are influenced and/or threated by corporations to fight back. shriking the government can mean many things, thats a whole different topic all together. so let me ask you this, do you believe we have an oligarchy here?
Yes.
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Re: All Aboard the Campaign Train, Let's Talk 2016 [Re: The Ecstatic]
#21226467 - 02/04/15 03:26 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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@elax
Hilary is about as manly as it gets, but you're right to a degree. There's going to be a certain "first a black guy now a woman, the libs are trying to get guilt votes!" opinion circulating, and may prove troublesome. But not as troublesome as the social stances a GOP candidate will HAVE to take.
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