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OfflineMycoCat
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Salvia...
    #2122223 - 11/19/03 11:15 AM (13 years, 20 days ago)

I was just wondering if anyone could give me any information concerning Salvia. I've heard a lot about it and would appreciate any links to information or personal opinions.

I'm also going to check out Erowid soon, so you don't have to link me there.

Thanks.


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Re: Salvia... [Re: MycoCat]
    #2122312 - 11/19/03 11:50 AM (13 years, 20 days ago)

http://www.sagewisdom.org/ Has lots of good info as well.


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Re: Salvia... [Re: DannyT]
    #2122355 - 11/19/03 12:07 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

http://www.sagewisdom.org/faq.html

GREAT link for beginners.

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Re: Salvia... [Re: ]
    #2122423 - 11/19/03 12:31 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

Thanks for your help.


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Re: Salvia... [Re: MycoCat]
    #2122450 - 11/19/03 12:48 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)



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Re: Salvia... [Re: Annom]
    #2122457 - 11/19/03 12:53 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

I have done some research on Salvia ... and I smoked several bowls of 7x extract in a bong using a torch lighter.

Nothing special happened *shrug*


Maybe I burned it too hot ... maybe I got some bunk salvia?

I want to try again ...



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Re: Salvia... [Re: guitarmon]
    #2122533 - 11/19/03 01:23 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

I have only met one person so far that has been 100% immune to the effects of salvia. I watched him smoke almost one half gram of 5x standard, using the same methods that I do, and nothing happened to him at all. Even after trying this several times, still nothing. Some people are immune.

That being said, what I have found to be the most important and most often overlooked aspect of smoking salvia, is the length of holding in the hit and the time between taking hits. I have to take a very large hit, hold it for a good slow count of twenty to thirty, let it out quickly and follow it with another hit immediately. If I take a breath between hits, I don't break through. I hold the second one until the world gets torn apart around me.


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Re: Salvia... [Re: Seuss]
    #2122694 - 11/19/03 02:34 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

How long does a "trip" on Salvia usually last? And what is a good dose for the extreme beginner?


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Re: Salvia... [Re: MycoCat]
    #2122706 - 11/19/03 02:38 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

> How long does a "trip" on Salvia usually last?

For me, smoked 5x standard:

Onset: 30 seconds to 1 minute
Peak: 1 minute to 5 minutes
Comedown: 20 minutes to 1 hour

> And what is a good dose for the extreme beginner?

Depends on the strength of what you are smoking.


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Re: Salvia... [Re: MycoCat]
    #2122721 - 11/19/03 02:43 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

I tried smoking 10X and didnt feel a thing the first time I did it. That shit was almost 50 bucks too....I barely started feeling a little buzz when I finished off the very last of the vile. I will definately try it again because people here say it is for real but it makes sense that peopel are skeptical too because it is legal!!! To answer your question, a salvia trip usually last about 15 minutes according to a post I just read on it but the effects linger for longer.


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Re: Salvia... [Re: Seuss]
    #2124552 - 11/20/03 09:44 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

Seuss, why don't you just move on to a higher extract? Taking multiple hits must really suck.
One hit of quality 10X takes me there everytime.


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Re: Salvia... [Re: cybrbeast]
    #2124586 - 11/20/03 10:17 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

just curious, how often do you guys like to "go there"?


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Re: Salvia... [Re: comario2]
    #2124649 - 11/20/03 10:53 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

> Seuss, why don't you just move on to a higher extract? Taking multiple hits must really suck.

Because I bought 5g of 5x standard over two years ago and still have a few grams left. Next time I buy I will get 10x standard instead.


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Re: Salvia... [Re: Seuss]
    #2124981 - 11/20/03 01:55 PM (13 years, 19 days ago)

It's been about every 3 weeks on average for me lately. It used to be about once a week. Anymore than weekly seems to make the experience less incredible, it just almost becomes normality.


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Re: Salvia... [Re: salviadog]
    #2125630 - 11/20/03 06:51 PM (13 years, 18 days ago)

>"I have only met one person so far that has been 100% immune to the effects of salvia. I watched him smoke almost one half gram of 5x standard, using the same methods that I do, and nothing happened to him at all."

Wow.... he smoked a whopping equivalent of 2.5g's of standard leaf.  This is a small dose and doesn't truely reflect a person being relatively immune to salvia's effects.  Most of the individuals I've experienced salvia with would call that a first timers dose... to tell soemone that this is a large dose that will have incredible effects on anyone is bad info.

MycoCat: you can read those sagewisdom pages for hours, and get absolutely no real insight into what salvia does.  Since you also asked for some personal opinions and info, here is mine.  Trade/buy from one of the members here at the Shroomery, obtain several grams of 10x or 12x extract... this means you will get the extracted qualities of approximately 10 leaves per gram of extract; in the case of the 10x.  To "breakthrough" which is the truely amazing quality of salvia, you will need to take large hits and hold them for a long time (approx. 30sec).  This experience will be a great burst of visual energy and an extremely powerful psychedelic experience lasting approx. 5 minutes.  There will be the feeling of the speedy after trip much like the comedown off shrooms, and similar physiological responses.  This is info from personal experience, good luck to you :smile:.


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Re: Salvia... [Re: NugDumper]
    #2125890 - 11/20/03 09:15 PM (13 years, 18 days ago)

A half gram of quality 5X really is a lot. I think you may have been using weak extract, or you might be pretty tolerant to Salvia.

IMO A first time dose should be 0,05g of 5X to see if you are really sensitive. That gets most people at a threshold level. After that you use 0,1g and then 0,15g of 5X extract. 0,1g was enough to get me pretty far. Then if you like Salvia you should slowly try to up your dose and slowly delve deeper into Salvia-land. There are a lot of levels to explore, and I don't want to miss one. But that's just my opinion.

But I think the immune person still might be able to break through if he used a 20X extract.

comario2, I don't use a lot of Salvia. I use it every 2-3 months. I usually take one or two trips on such an evening. In the days after that I think a lot about my trip(s). Then I usually don't think about it for a while, and then I slowly get the urge to do it again.
I do think there is recreational value to Salvia, because it's just so interesting and perplexing. In the days after I usually have a fresh perspective on the world.


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Re: Salvia... [Re: cybrbeast]
    #2125912 - 11/20/03 09:23 PM (13 years, 18 days ago)

Thanks for the information NugDumper.


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Re: Salvia... [Re: MycoCat]
    #2126093 - 11/20/03 10:41 PM (13 years, 18 days ago)

No problem MycoCat, I hope you have great salvia experiences.

cybr: I'm not sure if the extract I've had has been weak or what, but like I said I don't have digi scales so I guess its difficult to say how much i've been smoking. I'm just pretty sure I wouldn't break through on 2 or 3 leaves, can you? Either way, salvia is just a pretty crazy experience, definitely a mind opener.


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Re: Salvia... [Re: NugDumper]
    #2126296 - 11/21/03 12:04 AM (13 years, 18 days ago)

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MycoCat: you can read those sagewisdom pages for hours, and get absolutely no real insight into what salvia does.  Since you also asked for some personal opinions and info, here is mine.  Trade/buy from one of the members here at the Shroomery, obtain several grams of 10x or 12x extract... this means you will get the extracted qualities of approximately 10 leaves per gram of extract; in the case of the 10x.  To "breakthrough" which is the truely amazing quality of salvia, you will need to take large hits and hold them for a long time (approx. 30sec).  This experience will be a great burst of visual energy and an extremely powerful psychedelic experience lasting approx. 5 minutes.  There will be the feeling of the speedy after trip much like the comedown off shrooms, and similar physiological responses.  This is info from personal experience, good luck to you :smile:




this is one of the main truths of salvia, you can read all you want, which is a good idea that i recommend, but the first time salvia breaks through you, it's entirely unfathomable and there is nothing you can do to prepare for it.  it's more powerful than anything else i've ever encountered, and it affects reality on a completely separate plane than anything else, ever. it's completely bizarre.

if you find her, you'll kknow it afterwards. and she'll remember you.

some of the wiredest things about salvia are the parrallels from trip to trip, it's almost impossible to not believe that there is some sort of divine consiousness at work.

good luck. 


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Re: Salvia... [Re: NugDumper]
    #2126681 - 11/21/03 04:35 AM (13 years, 18 days ago)

I don't know how many leaves I need to breakthrough, I just know how much extract I need to breakthrough. I also don't have scales, but with 5X and 10X it's pretty easy to eyeball your dose. Just divide the extract into equal piles.
Try a different vendor next time and see if it makes a difference.


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