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 Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting   1
#21221 - 06/20/00 03:00 PM (24 years, 7 months ago) |
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VERY NICE@! COW SHIT DOESN RULE~
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Anonymous
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21223 - 06/20/00 04:04 PM (24 years, 7 months ago) |
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unbelievable !!!!!!!!!!!!
how were these grown??
Indoors??
Outdoors??
Cased?
could you please tell us your formula!
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 CLuB99
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21224 - 06/20/00 04:04 PM (24 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nice crop!------------------
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Zeus
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21225 - 06/20/00 04:47 PM (24 years, 7 months ago) |
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ohhhhh looks like some sort of exotic island the island of shroomaria YAY
i wanna live there
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 BoomerZ
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21226 - 06/20/00 06:16 PM (24 years, 7 months ago) |
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HOLY SH*T! Where did you get the cow poo? My friend is about to do something like that but can only get cow poo at walmart. How did you keep humidity up? And also the same Q's as spawn. How did you get the pooo to colonize, and how did you sterilize it?
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Fried Brains
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21227 - 06/21/00 10:51 AM (24 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for the encouraging comments. I will post a tek with a few pictures within the next 12 hours. The good news is sterilisation
of the manure is not nessacary, and the tek is very simple and requires very little equipment.
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oldmaverick
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21228 - 06/20/00 11:10 PM (24 years, 7 months ago) |
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Interesting
keep us posted.
I got lotsa cowpoo
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Prellgott
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21229 - 06/21/00 09:57 AM (24 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah, good worktemp (day/night)?
humity?
misting?
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PappaKaps
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21230 - 06/21/00 01:21 PM (24 years, 7 months ago) |
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Very nice........Those are some dandies your've grown there.
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Fried Brains
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21231 - 06/21/00 02:03 PM (24 years, 7 months ago) |
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This tek works on the basis that mycelium grows naturally on cow manure without sterilisation and owes its success to imitating the shrooms environment by using its natural substrate, makes sense to me. The bowl above used one , one pint cake and produced 152 g wet on the 1st flush. I am still waiting for the second flush which is pinning now.
Indoor Dung Tek for the above is as follows:
The cow manure must not be too fresh, it must be dry-ish and lumpy. If it is not lumpy, it is too far decomposed and will not work properly. Do not sterilise the manure !
Step One:Break up the substrate into small pieces ( crumbs ) Mix thoroughly an equal amount of colonised substrate ( birdseed or BRF & Verm ) and cow manure in a bucket or other container. Add water so the mixture is damp-wet but not totally sodden.( I mix out doors by the garden tap and use tap water )
Step 2: Add the mixture to a container of your choice , in the example a plastic dogs water bowl was used. One of the secrets of colonizing manure quickly is too keep the mixture light and fluffy, not compressed and keep it thin. 1" or 25 mm seeems ideal but
you can go to 1.5" max once you have the hang of it. Try 3/4 inch thick substrate when you begin. I use seed trays, old floppy disk boxes ( makes a great mini terriaum )
Plastic margarine & ice cream containers etc. If the mixture is too thick it will take too long to colonise and may get cobweb mould before fruiting.
I covered the dogs bowl with tin foil and left in a dark cupboard for a week.
Step 3: After one week I lifted off the tin foil cover and re-positioned it so it covered the bowl about 80% so it kept humidity up but let light and air in, I left the bowl in the kitchen where there is a natural draft and misted it 2 times a day, after about ten days or so pins started to form. Temperatures were constant through out about daytime max 74f or 24c.and night min 44f or 12c
Step 4: I put the bowl in a ( plastic box )terriuam , kept the humidity at about 90-95% most of the time by misting twice a day. Air was supplied by a fish tank bubbler.
The reason why I put it in a terriuam at this stage is I stop misting the surface at this point and only mist the angled perspex in the container so reducing the chance of any contamination by over-wetting the mycelium.Step 5: 18 days from opening the tin foil I picked my fruits. Hey, I cant wait for the weekend ! The main criteria to success here with this tek, is getting the mycelium to colonize the manure quickly. I f it does and bear in mind it is directly related to substrate thickness,( I mean how thick is a cow shit normally ? ) then the shrooms basically grow themselves and are normally pretty healthy specimens. This tek is well worth trying, if you are a serious shroomer, you will be abundantly rewarded for your efforts. It also works well outdoors, in a shallow hole in the ground, depending on temperatures of course. ps: I have often gotten shrooms by mixing contaminated cakes with cowshit, the cow shit kills the contam and the mycelium lives on to fruit.
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Fried Brains
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21232 - 06/21/00 11:40 PM (24 years, 7 months ago) |
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All Newbies, take note of this tek as it is VERY simple and VERY effective.
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Psychonaut
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21233 - 06/22/00 12:00 AM (24 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nice pics
I aways use dung in my substrates, and your right about most contams not liking it. Unfortunately, green mold, does like it - but it doesn't even spread as fast on dung,as normal grain sustrates.------------------
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Anonymous
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21234 - 06/28/00 05:47 PM (24 years, 7 months ago) |
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fried brains,where did your spores or culture come from
(which supplier)
also is that overlay on the surface of the mycelium? Do you think casing the substrate would have affected teh shrooms growth? thanks, spawny ------------------
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snarf
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21235 - 06/29/00 10:46 AM (24 years, 6 months ago) |
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A few questions. First of all, it looks like you using the cake as a spawn for the cow manure, sort of like azures and cardboard. Could you simply case a crumbled cake with cow manure and continue as a regular casing tek? Do you think the yield would be the same? Lastly, do you have problems with flies in the cow manure? My friend's dog would really like to try this. He unwittingly created spawn jars by using the wrong type of birdseed and hopes to save his batch. Happily, his neighbor has a herd of cattle who would be happy to be unwitting contributors to science.  -snarf [This message has been edited by snarf (edited June 29, 2000).]
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jester
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21236 - 06/28/00 11:15 PM (24 years, 7 months ago) |
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Where do you buy this stuff? The stuff that you buy is normally fresh isn't it? Info please.
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Fried Brains
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21237 - 06/29/00 05:59 AM (24 years, 7 months ago) |
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Spawn, the spores originally came from Smart Botanic's.They do say on thier site that they like manure. Ryche Hawk will also have these spores available soon. I personally feel that in this case, casing may have slowed the process down , increasing chances of contamination. Yes it looks like overlay ., but it didnt seem to hurt in this instance.
Snarf, I am using birdseed cake mixed with manure. I have had problems casing manure, so until I can solve the problems I dont recommend it. A tek you can try is to use a thin layer of manure on top of colonised cakes, sort of using the manure as casing, much like shroom Wizards tek using potting soil as casing. It is not entirely predictable but you can have some fun results.
Jester
I get the manure from a farm, it is already in a pile so I choose the right texture and age, not wet, fresh and smelly, but dry and lumpy ( the next stage ),& crumbly. If it is too far decomposed it can give probs with slow colonization and green mould or cobweb mould.
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Fried Brains
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21238 - 06/29/00 06:04 AM (24 years, 6 months ago) |
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Snarf. No I havent had too may problems with flies and manure. I once did get a lot of small midge like flies on one batch but they didnt seem to harm the shrooms in any way.
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Anonymous
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21239 - 06/29/00 01:39 PM (24 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fried, you are the man. I see what you mean.
Are their syringes cloudy with spores? When you ordered from smart botanics, are you in the USA? Cause it says they wont ship to the usa. Your strain seems one of the largest cultivated ive ever seen, Im wondering if other so called Gulf coast strains from other vendors are those big strains. I personally dont know which state produces the biggest, but from the pics ive seen, it looks like Alabama might have some pretty big ones. Any particular reason you think sterilizing the manure might be a bad idea?
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jester
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21240 - 06/29/00 09:03 PM (24 years, 6 months ago) |
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So what abtou the stuff that you can get in a store? I wqould be using shroom wizards tek with verm/flour will this work with this tek? And if i have a say puple contam it is ok to case it with this stuff as long as it doesn't show on the top of it after i am done mixing the cake and cow shit? thnaks
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jester
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21241 - 07/01/00 11:17 PM (24 years, 6 months ago) |
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anyone gonna answer my question?
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Anonymous
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21242 - 07/02/00 01:04 AM (24 years, 6 months ago) |
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how do you make the cakes and what do you use to keep humidy could i use a humidifyer
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Anonymous
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21243 - 07/02/00 01:06 AM (24 years, 6 months ago) |
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you eat cubie to trip right
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Anonymous
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21244 - 07/02/00 01:12 AM (24 years, 6 months ago) |
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where di i get spores at if im underage
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Fried Brains
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21245 - 07/04/00 02:01 PM (24 years, 6 months ago) |
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Spawn, No thier ( Smart Botanics ) syringes are far from cloudy with spores, in fact most of the time you will be lucky if you can see any spores, however I have had about 90% success with thier syringes. No I am not from USA but from Africa. As mentioned earlier Ryche Hawk will soon have this strain and you will be able to order from him in a month or two. So far the largest shrooms I have grown are the Ecuador's from Ryche Hawk, the also love manure and virtually grow by themselves outdoors in spring in manure. I have never sterilised manure as I believe in keeping things as close to the natural environment as possible however, it may be a good idea becuase manure can get green contam pretty easily as mentioned by Psychonaut, perhaps he has some experience with this he could share ?
Jester, yes you can use brown rice flour and vermiculite with this tek, it works great !PsycoshrOOmer, I suggest you have a look at the grow section on this site. Question 2 the answer is yes. Question 3 I have no idea, but I suggest that you start by not disclosing your true age, although that would be lying and your kharma. Update on the second flush. a bit dissapointing, I got 2 medium shrooms and thats it, theres still a couple pinning so it looks like I will have a small 3rd flush ------------------
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Mitchnast
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21246 - 07/04/00 03:15 PM (24 years, 6 months ago) |
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good call, thats basically the same tek used here at the local mushroom farm to grow mushrooms for the grocery store. alot of people in your area get spent substrate as soil for their lawns round these parts and in the fall those lawns often fruit pretty heavey, one time i had a few bags of this, which my appearence id say is equal parts cow manure, straw, and mycillaeum. so i lined my salamander terrarium with it, planted a few pot plants in there to keep my salamanders company, they grew ok, but there wasnt enough air circulation, plus after a while they started to look like pot and visitors started to ask questions...ANYWAY
i got alot of very large commercial mushrooms out of that enclosure so i thought id cuck the conditions at you, i might try this later for psilocybe cultivation if it becomes legal (wink wink)
just basically do the same tek to get colonization in the manure mix, but add straw, i dont know why, but i got a good feeling that it helps. makes the substrate lighter, more airaeted and less smelly too.
lay directly on the bottom of aquarum, i used a 35 gallon aquarium but the size wasnt for mushroom cultivation. substraite layed about 3-5 thick directly on bottom, this was covered with various types of living sphagnum mosses that i peeled off of rocks in big sheets in the woods. i also planted alot of ferns and forest plants in there. fruiting began after a week and continued all year untill i cleaned out the tank after my tiger salamander died (it happens...snif) mycillaeum was still alive and abundant, it was most concentraited inder debris such as rocks and logs (decorations) i know its not a psilocybe, but it is a dung loving species so you never know.
as a side note, i did the same aquarium set up in the bio lab at my school except the substrait was simply rotted peat, cedar bark chips and daily compost addings to feed the madagascar hissing cockroaches (i sometimes get mushrooms in the cultivation of animals) anywho. i found some black morels out front in the ceadar patch. on a whim i transplanted some live ones during a rain with whatever mycilaeum was stuck too the bottom. i know you cant transplant mushrooms like plants, but it worked, the aquarium continued fruiting morels all summer (school was out, but my teacher told me about it) humidity was extremely high, but our school has a 15 million dolloar air-filtration/climate control system (isnt that insane?) conditions expensive to duplicate and probably made little difference. but anyway, those are morels. if you can grow enough you can get 10$ canadian a pound if you go to the right resteraunts, but usually they want no less than 50 wet lbs
i cant pick that much in a day! there just isnt enough out there to pick, and the little buggers dont keep!!!! anyway, too much reminising. i got my eye on that cambodia strain. after all the accliam and seeing mushroom johns beastley mushrooms of that strain, i think ill give em a shot. of course i dont expect to do as well as MJ. that guys not human  but thats good!
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Fried Brains
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21247 - 07/06/00 12:41 PM (24 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mitchnast, thats quite an interesting story there. To answer your question I havent used straw myself, but from what I have read I dont see any reason why your set up should not work ( except possible contam ) GO FOR IT !
Oh yes I believe its possible that MJ is not human, he must be partial mushroom by now having absorbed so much psilocybin over the years. Anyway its great having a guy that around !!!!!
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GGreatOne234
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21248 - 07/06/00 07:34 PM (24 years, 6 months ago) |
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impressive colors on those caps.i of course have no experience growing cubes but have picked my own weight of them in the wild.. ..the caps have split. your feeding them too much. TheGreatOne has spoken heheheh [This message has been edited by GGreatOne234 (edited July 06, 2000).]
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Fried Brains
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Re: Pics of Gulf Coast Fruiting
#21249 - 07/07/00 11:57 AM (24 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you Oh Great One for your kind words
about the colours, I liked them too !
As far as feeding too much, not guilty, the shrooms had thier own food there and they were greedy !
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