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Q-Mush
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Mushroom growing problem "grow kit"
#21220468 - 02/03/15 11:04 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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So 2 days ago i came here, asking about my mushroom i tough they didn't look healthy and I've been told to do several different things... suddenly i got the great idea to pick ou the substrate from the plastic cup... stupid me right... so today i see them, the mu shy's are de coloring, a brownish black, [some of them are] what do i do ? i pull some from the side and put it back in the plastic cup or do i just hope for the best and leave it? i hope i get a straight forward answer what do do... i really don't wanna start over
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: Q-Mush]
#21220490 - 02/03/15 11:12 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Q-Mush said: So 2 days ago i came here, asking about my mushroom i tough they didn't look healthy and I've been told to do several different things... suddenly i got the great idea to pick ou the substrate from the plastic cup... stupid me right... so today i see them, the mu shy's are de coloring, a brownish black, [some of them are] what do i do ? i pull some from the side and put it back in the plastic cup or do i just hope for the best and leave it? i hope i get a straight forward answer what do do... i really don't wanna start over
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20308542
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You will need to start over if their brown, take a picture and post it here.
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: Dr.Dankhead]
#21220521 - 02/03/15 11:20 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: Q-Mush]
#21220571 - 02/03/15 11:30 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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They look dry...tha cap is dried up because their not getting sufficient moisture...also enough air exchange... Do you fan and mist 2 a day?..now are they getting air exchange.. Through holes? Or what.. .
What was your ratio for BRF:vermiculight:water?
I'm guessing the substrate is dried out.. Or humidity is whack.
Keep the humidity at 90 percent, the temperature around 70-75... Don't go past 80 if you can. Fan and mist 2 times a day..
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: Dr.Dankhead]
#21220614 - 02/03/15 11:39 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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there are no holes, this is a growkit, so they just told us to leave it in the sack... add no water and just leave it for a few weeks... i've been told that's wrong and i should fan and mist, i mist once a day and fan... well never done it, took it out twice
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: Q-Mush]
#21220655 - 02/03/15 11:48 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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You should fan and mist. The problem with growkits is that the makers want to make growing sound extremely easy with little or no attention. If you want that get a sclerotia growkit (philiosophers stones). Or better yet read up how to do it yourself as its far cheaper.
Homebrew beer kits suffer the same problem, on homebrew sites its common to see experienced brewers say "step 1, throw out the instructions, they are far from optimal".
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: Q-Mush]
#21220660 - 02/03/15 11:49 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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So I've been crafting something up right here real fast... i saw this on the forum some days ago, a "shotgun fruiting chamber" or something like that, i will be able to fan and mist right ? I'll add some photo's in let me know if i put the mushrooms in the fruiting chamber or just leave in the bag ?

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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: Q-Mush]
#21220684 - 02/03/15 11:54 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh boy..
If you have time, lost a picture of your "kit"
... You probably over paid big time for supplies that would have costed about 30 dollars tops.
when i first started I wanted a grow kit too, but you'll realize how ridicoulous they really are. Plus now that a mushroom grow kit is not only on your bank statment, but shipped to your house, I'd be a little cautious about growing.. But I'm sure you'll be fine..
Looks like your ahead of me here.. I really didn't expect a spawn bag lol..most of those kits are full of useless supplies.. That looks fairly simple.
Yes follow the SGFC teks throughly land transfer the cake from the bag to the SGFC.. Fan and mist.. Keep it 2 inches of the ground away from walls yada yada.. Look up the tek
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: Q-Mush]
#21220704 - 02/03/15 11:57 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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YOu could just cut a hole in that bag and run some polyfill thru it. MIst the sides when it looks dry. Fanning is great but you can improvise with a filter.
YOur bag is missing a filter patch otherwise it be good to set and leave
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#21220722 - 02/03/15 12:02 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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preschooler said: MIst the sides when it looks dry.
Why not mist the cake if it looks dry? The sides of the chamber are not important, but pins from the cake are, and they form from evaporation.....
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: Dr.Dankhead]
#21220734 - 02/03/15 12:04 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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allright, working on my SGFC atm , i have no polyfill to put in the SGFC tho... i have something else tho... its bird food, a big sack of hard nuts and other kind's of bird food... i have it because i tried to make my own replica of the soil yesterday [mush soil]. can i use that as "polyfill" to hold up water ? probably a retard question else i'l just make the SGFC without polyfill for now. atleast i can mist and fan than...
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: Q-Mush]
#21220740 - 02/03/15 12:05 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Q-Mush said: allright, working on my SGFC atm , i have no polyfill to put in the SGFC tho...
That's good, because a SGFC does not utilize polyfill......
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#21220742 - 02/03/15 12:06 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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preschooler said: YOur bag is missing a filter patch otherwise it be good to set and leave
I think the white stripes on the side are filters. But if they are anything like the filters on my autoclave bags they let fuck all air through, so your advice of making filters probably still holds
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: PussyFart]
#21220751 - 02/03/15 12:08 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Id assume if your misting the sides It would get to the cake as well.
The idea is to keep water droplets on the side of the bag. like this
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: blackout]
#21220766 - 02/03/15 12:10 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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preschooler said: YOur bag is missing a filter patch otherwise it be good to set and leave
I think the white stripes on the side are filters. But if they are anything like the filters on my autoclave bags they let fuck all air through, so your advice of making filters probably still holds
I was thinking that but wasn't sure if they were or not.
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#21220772 - 02/03/15 12:11 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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preschooler said: The idea is to keep water droplets on the side of the bag.
Why? What does that do exactly?
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#21220781 - 02/03/15 12:13 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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i'l leave it in the bag for now... one question tho, i don't have a spray, i'll get one tomorrow but how do i mist without a spray ?
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: Q-Mush]
#21220791 - 02/03/15 12:14 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Q-Mush said: i'l leave it in the bag for now... one question tho, i don't have a spray, i'll get one tomorrow but how do i mist without a spray ?
You don't.....
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: PussyFart]
#21220826 - 02/03/15 12:21 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Water droplets along with the plastic provides a moist artificial layer along with the right amount of fresh air for perfect pinning and fruiting conditions. Kind of like an artificial casing layer
That's my opinion
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#21220988 - 02/03/15 12:49 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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preschooler said: Water droplets along with the plastic provides a moist artificial layer along with the right amount of fresh air for perfect pinning and fruiting conditions. Kind of like an artificial casing layer
That's my opinion
Lol that's an opinion. Pussyfart has explained that water evaporation causes fruits to grow, Widely accepted fact. Not tying to be mean. But newbies need guidence.. Not misinformation. And you've been here a really long time.
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#21220993 - 02/03/15 12:50 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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preschooler said: Water droplets along with the plastic provides a moist artificial layer along with the right amount of fresh air for perfect pinning and fruiting conditions. Kind of like an artificial casing layer
The microclimate at "substrate level" is what matters, not at the walls of the FC....moisture on the walls of the FC do not benefit the substrate at all.....
Casing layers go on top of the substrate, to provide a better microclimate at "substrate level"....not at the walls.
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: PussyFart]
#21221015 - 02/03/15 12:55 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah I know ive been here a long time.
Ive also grown outdoors quite a bit. And I know that if you stick a sub outside. It may or may not grow depending on the environment.
But if you stick a piece of plastic over it and mist the shit out of it it will grow.
And not just a little bit, it will flush out like if it were indoor or better.
Idk the exact science but im sure it doesn't just have to do with evaporation. Its just not that black and white
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#21221021 - 02/03/15 12:57 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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preschooler said: yeah I know ive been here a long time.
Ive also grown outdoors quite a bit. And I know that if you stick a sub outside. It may or may not grow depending on the environment.
But if you stick a piece of plastic over it and mist the shit out of it it will grow.
And not just a little bit, it will flush out like if it were indoor or better.
Idk the exact science but im sure it doesn't just have to do with evaporation. Its just not that black and white
That's because outside it's getting a shit tone of FAE......and the plastic holds in some humidity......like a dome.....
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Re: Mushroom growing problem "grow kit" [Re: PussyFart]
#21221044 - 02/03/15 01:00 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Your saying microclimate like it differs greatly from the rest of the environment inside mono or bag. Im sorry it just cant be that much difference in such s a small environment. I just don't get it
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Re: Mushroom growing problem [Re: Dr.Dankhead]
#21318505 - 02/23/15 03:47 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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http:// Hi , I ve mexican mushroom grow kit. I ve set it up 3 week ago and still doing nothing. Can you help me what can I do ?
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Re: Mushroom growing problem [Re: coolkara]
#21318581 - 02/23/15 04:04 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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You should make your own thread, and take a few more pictures from different angles, and explain the steps you followed.
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Re:Mexican Mushroom Growing Problem [Re: Q-Mush]
#21318670 - 02/23/15 04:24 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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http:// http:// http:// http:// http:// http:// Hi, I have mexican grow kit. And have some questions. if you can help me I would be so happy. I did what I must to do for setting it up. Filled it with wather and waited it for 12 hours and after 12 hours I did make it empty. Than I put it in the bag and added couple of water. All conditions are Ok. ( Tempeture is 24 degree and Daily I m doing some spray water and fresh air. İt has been 25 days and still looking same there s no any changes ! I ll put some pics. Can you tell me what can I do now ?
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Re:Mexican Mushroom Growing Problem [Re: coolkara]
#21318697 - 02/23/15 04:31 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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ask to get your money back.
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Re:Mexican Mushroom Growing Problem [Re: spacechildo]
#21318715 - 02/23/15 04:35 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cant do anything more ? İs there any method ? They r looking bad ? it s my first experience. I need some help...
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Re:Mexican Mushroom Growing Problem [Re: coolkara]
#21318731 - 02/23/15 04:38 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I cant tell, but if there is mycelium growing it has prolly stalled. The only thing I could say to do if that is the case is take a piece of stalled mycelium and either transfer to agar. In that case you could clean it of any contams than save that for a master if you wish, or try and transfer straight to grain. But that could result in contams. Good luck man -Kushroom
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Re:Mexican Mushroom Growing Problem [Re: kushroom]
#21318751 - 02/23/15 04:41 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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thanks a lot !
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