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OfflineCoincidentiaoppositorum
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dream-DMT and sleep paralysis
    #21219498 - 02/03/15 03:58 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Sleep Paralysis and the hypnagogic state

When an unprepared person first encounters the state of free-floating consciousness brought on by a METAtonin release, the initial effect may seem like total body paralysis, since self consciousness has been relieved of its association with the body and has temporarily lost control of it. The most common form of sleep paralysis is encountered at the borders of sleep. Clinically, if one experiences sleep paralysis upon waking, this is known as hypnopompic sleep paralysis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis). If the sensation is felt when entering a sleep state, then it is called a hypnagogic event. In this state, the body framework and body over control have been placed in autopilot, similar to the sleeping state, i.e. self consciousness is fully aware, but it has been relieved of its’ responsibility for the host body. This can be a very frightening until the subject realizes that he/she has been freed of the restraints of, and responsibility for, the body and is now able to travel anywhere consciousness determines, just by using the vector of thought. Personally, I experienced six sleep paralysis episodes before I overcame the panic an fear associated with unexpected paralysis and allowed myself to fly free. - cut and pasted from
http://metatoninresearch.org/

Ever since my first DMT break-through I have had experiances indistinguishable from smoked DMT in real life in my dreams and I also suffer from sleep paralysis on a regular basis, so I found all this to be quite interesting....
though I'm not sure if there's any truth to the statements made by these "METAtonin" people, but am curious to find out...

(When these people say "METAtonin" they are refering to endogenous DMT)

-E. Borodin

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Re: dream-DMT and sleep paralysis [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21219985 - 02/03/15 08:42 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Interesting. Sleep paralysis used to happen to me a few times a week and the author is correct, once the initial fear is overcome it can be an incredible platform for psychedelic experience. I've never tried DMT but whenever I hear people describing it I am always reminded of these natural sleep related states and have wondered if and in what way they might be related. I can't wait to try DMT so I can see for myself how they compare. Thanks for sharing.

It amuses me when I hear people say they "suffer" from SP... I look forward to it and wish I knew how to consciously induce it.

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Re: dream-DMT and sleep paralysis [Re: drop dead fred]
    #21224544 - 02/04/15 06:07 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

For me it can still be quite scary, I have DMT states in dreams that are not accompanied paralysis, but the phenomonon are no doubt inter-connected as the paralysis States often give way to DMT States.

before my first DMT experiance, when I would die in a dream, I would wake up, now when in die in a dream I go through a super-realistic DMT-trip, then I wake up.

Sometimes ill be in the middle of a dream and for no reason ill get thrown into a +++ DMT flash.

Sometimes a person in the dream will hand me a pipe, ill take the toke, and BAM! Just like I had smoked DMT in real life,  I go through a DMT flash.

I even considered learning lucid dreaming so I could induce these dream DMT States on command, but have not had success so far, they still only occor at random...

It would be interesting to learn whats behind this phenomenon, but as of now not much is known...

-E. borodin

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