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Who is more tolerant?
    #2121988 - 11/19/03 08:01 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

Muslims, Jews or Christians? explain.


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Re: Who is more tolerant? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2122032 - 11/19/03 09:13 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

tolerant of what?


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Re: Who is more tolerant? [Re: Xochitl]
    #2122057 - 11/19/03 09:34 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

Tolerant of other beliefs, races, differing opinions etc....


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Re: Who is more tolerant? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2122076 - 11/19/03 09:47 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

I think all of those religions have their fair share of tolerant and intolerant individuals and customs. Difficult to say.



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Re: Who is more tolerant? [Re: Xochitl]
    #2122110 - 11/19/03 10:01 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

nice weasel answer.


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Re: Who is more tolerant? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2122142 - 11/19/03 10:21 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

none of them are tolerant.


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Re: Who is more tolerant? [Re: 1stimer]
    #2122188 - 11/19/03 10:58 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

how about those that don't believe ie: atheists?

muslims, jews, Christians, atheists, (choose a belief system)?


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Re: Who is more tolerant? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2122192 - 11/19/03 11:00 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

Christians are tolerant in theory, but not in practice...

Muslims are tolerant in practice, but not in theory.

I cant really speak on Jews...I dont know many Jews...

Atheists to me seem very determined to push their beliefs on everyone...Much like Christians...


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Re: Who is more tolerant? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2122199 - 11/19/03 11:03 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

wow an actual answer, gold star for you. but i disagree with the whole Muslims in practice thing. The Christians you nailed, as well as the aethiests.


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Re: Who is more tolerant? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2122204 - 11/19/03 11:06 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

i dont know very many jews, or muslims. the christians i know are pretty
tolerant, though. mostly methodists.


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Re: Who is more tolerant? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2122205 - 11/19/03 11:07 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

Well, I say that because it seems if you read the Koran, there's ALOT of things that are proscribed as punishments for anyone different...But I dont see alot of it going on...I've never seen Muslims pouring blood on a girl who had an abortion, or standing in the street with a "FAGS GO TO HELL" sign. Maybe they do in a traditional Muslim country, I dont know.

But I read the Bible, and it seems, although its very contradictory, to say that diversity should not be hated. But I see Christians doing all of the above things.


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Re: Who is more tolerant? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2122222 - 11/19/03 11:15 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

I see Muslims as very intollerant, try preaching something other than muslim in Iran and see what happens to you ie: a beatin'. Christians preach it like you've said but feel the need to ostracise(sp) those that don't agree with them but don't tend to hit people with sticks when they disagree, except for those wacky ones who feel the need to blow up an abortian clinic. Christians (a large number of them) tend very self rightous and ignorant at the same time. I really don't know much aboot the Jewish religion. Aethiests are pretty militant (at least the ones i've come across) and preach thier individuality but don't believe that they have to respect others individuality.

but that's just my opinion.


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Re: Who is more tolerant? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2122237 - 11/19/03 11:20 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

Wierd that nobody really knows about Jews. Makes them seem so mysterious...

What *are* they doing in those synagogues?


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He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus


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Re: Who is more tolerant? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2122247 - 11/19/03 11:24 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

I've heard quite a bit aboot their religion and it is very interesting but i know little aboot them, other than the fact that they are being bombed by muslims.


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Re: Who is more tolerant? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2122927 - 11/19/03 03:58 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

well buddhists are by far the most tolerate major religion i can think of, but out of your list it's hard to say...all of those religions have sects of fundementalist nut jobs that are very intolerate.

i think it depends on where you go. In the states most christians are pretty high and mighty about their religion and they seem pretty intolerate. whereas most muslims and jews i've met are more tolerate, probably because they're the minority and are in some ways forced to be more tolerate of other religions? If that's the case i'm sure it's the exact oppisate in israel or saudi arabia. In places like that christians are probably the most tolerate.


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Re: Who is more tolerant? [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #2122976 - 11/19/03 04:16 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

good reply, being a minority sure changes ones views.


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Re: Who is more tolerant? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2123037 - 11/19/03 04:37 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

Islam embraces all races and people (check the Koran and the history of Islam), however women are often seen as second-class and other religious beliefs and customs are frowned upon. Chrisitianity has the core ideals of love and compassion, but yet it is rarely practiced. I doubt you would ever see Jesus chilling with Ralph Reed. The Jews also look down upon non-Jews as inferior and unholy - not all though. The Zionists believe the Jews are the Chosen People and all else are damned.


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Re: Who is more tolerant? [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #2123360 - 11/19/03 06:31 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

Good thread...

I agree 100% that Buddhists are by far the most tolerant 'religion'...(although Buddhism technically is non-denominational)..as far as the rest...

Athiests seem to be very tolerant as well since they are obviously the minority...and though they don't believe in god, they usually still have an excellent sense of what's right and wrong.

Christianity and Muslims are just flip sides of the same coin to me...both have shed alot of blood in the name of their respective gods.

Judaism seems to be a pretty tolerant religion since they seem to keep to themselves, and don't go any kind of recruiting drives to my knowledge. I'm pretty sure that in order to be considered Jewish your mother has to be a Jew. (although there is obviously exceptions to this rule.)


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Re: Who is more tolerant? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2123388 - 11/19/03 06:47 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

Quote:

Madtowntripper said:
Christians are tolerant in theory, but not in practice...

Muslims are tolerant in practice, but not in theory.

I cant really speak on Jews...I dont know many Jews...

Atheists to me seem very determined to push their beliefs on everyone...Much like Christians...




Wonder why you never hear of athiests and agnostics involved in a blood bath with each other. Fuck, there must be something wrong with people who don't have a religion?


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Re: Who is more tolerant? [Re: barfightlard]
    #2123550 - 11/19/03 08:10 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

Probably judiasm are more tolerant. They don't force their religion on other people like christians and muslims.


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