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Offlineatomic1
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Light during colonization
    #2121407 - 11/19/03 01:14 AM (13 years, 22 days ago)

Light is bad during colonization. Everyone knows this. After removing contaminated jars from the incubator I sat them in the floor being exposed to light and a drop in temp. (70-75). After a couple of days mycelia growth accelerated tremendously and outran my healthy jars. This happened on 3 separate occasions. Recently I had some stalled jars. I mean like 3 weeks and no growth whatsover so I say what the hell and I sit them out in the floor of my bedroom, thought I'd experiment. Just as before they resumed growth at quick speed. No pins ever formed just aggresive mycelia. Light is known to induce pinning and maybe it was just the roll of the dice that mine didn't but a positive result did come from this. I mean its all about trial and error and trying new stuff right? I'm not claiming anything other than what I've seen but maybe there is something to it. Talk to me.


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Re: Light during colonization [Re: atomic1]
    #2121486 - 11/19/03 01:52 AM (13 years, 22 days ago)

sounds interesting. If it happens again, you should get some pictures and document it out in a log.


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Re: Light during colonization [Re: daussaulit]
    #2121499 - 11/19/03 01:56 AM (13 years, 22 days ago)

i've had cakes pin with no exposure to light whatsoever....shrooms do as they please sometimes.


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Re: Light during colonization [Re: Hanky]
    #2121507 - 11/19/03 01:59 AM (13 years, 22 days ago)

Weird that that happened. The only reason you don't want to expose jars to direct sunlight is for the fact that you don't want to induce pinning I thought. Oh well I could be wrong, but withouth lite I don't think the mushies will grow, but Again i could be wrong.


And were you just telling us contaminated jars continued to grow mycelia and became healthy again?


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Re: Light during colonization [Re: The_LosT_SouL]
    #2121518 - 11/19/03 02:02 AM (13 years, 22 days ago)

No, they stayed contaminated but the mycelia that was there grew like a mofo and thats what gave me the idea.


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Re: Light during colonization [Re: atomic1]
    #2121526 - 11/19/03 02:04 AM (13 years, 22 days ago)

It wasn't actually in direct sunlight, just like room light throught the blinds and the light in my room sometimes.


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Re: Light during colonization [Re: atomic1]
    #2121542 - 11/19/03 02:14 AM (13 years, 22 days ago)

If i see a contam the jar gets baged and thrown out. Did you birth the contaminated cakes and cut out the contam or something?


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Re: Light during colonization [Re: The_LosT_SouL]
    #2121553 - 11/19/03 02:18 AM (13 years, 22 days ago)

No, just let them sit in the floor. Never really got around to throwing them out. I usually throw mine out as well i was just being lazy i guess. I tried this on healthy jars after seeing the contam'd ones do this 3 times.


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Re: Light during colonization [Re: atomic1]
    #2122742 - 11/19/03 02:52 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

Come on guys doesn't anyone else have any ideas?


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Re: Light during colonization [Re: atomic1]
    #2123022 - 11/19/03 04:31 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

remember that pinning is a function of CO2 concentration, humidity, temp as well as light. Perhaps there is something you are doing when you move them that you haven't really thought about. The movement might introduce air into your jar. The temp or humidity of the spot that you are speaking of may have been different. The light may induce pins when all the other variables are good for fruiting, but perhaps it just speeds mycelial growth when the variables aren't good for pins. That would seem correct if you think of the mycelia looking for a good place to fruit. Once it detects the light it may be "encouraged" to grow towards a good fruiting place. just a thought.


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Re: Light during colonization [Re: cheesenoonions]
    #2123028 - 11/19/03 04:33 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

someone once told me "light wont hurt your mushies" but i cant remember who


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Re: Light during colonization [Re: GonzoCool]
    #2123715 - 11/19/03 09:34 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

Well the humidity was low in my room like 50-60%, the temp was around 70-75, and as for CO2 I flipped the jars to keep it down.


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Re: Light during colonization [Re: atomic1]
    #2124088 - 11/20/03 12:42 AM (13 years, 21 days ago)

there was a post not too long ago on this site that described an experiment someone performed that seemed to show that mycelia would grow faster if cycled through temps. They would incubate at 85 r so then drop the temp a few days, then back into the incubator. his results seemed to show it accelerated growth.


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Re: Light during colonization [Re: cheesenoonions]
    #2124093 - 11/20/03 12:45 AM (13 years, 21 days ago)

That was for pinning


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Re: Light during colonization [Re: atomic1]
    #2124988 - 11/20/03 02:00 PM (13 years, 21 days ago)

oops sorry


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Re: Light during colonization [Re: cheesenoonions]
    #2129541 - 11/22/03 09:14 PM (13 years, 19 days ago)

I'm not getting much feedback so if anyone has stalled colonization and feels like experimenting give this a shot. It worked great for me and should be looked into further IMO. All thoughts are still welcome - I would love to hear some expert opinions.


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Re: Light during colonization [Re: atomic1]
    #2131405 - 11/24/03 12:21 AM (13 years, 17 days ago)

I think people look too deeply into the whole lighting question. Keep em in the dark during incubation, unless you're doing a neglect or invitro tek. once birthed or case, run a 12/12 light cycle (or something close to it) until pins form, then you can drop it back or just keep going with it, and don't be so anal with exposing it to light to check up on them, a few seconds of light will not affect them, do what you have to do to insure proper growth is taking place, This is my basic light pattern for p.c. cultivation, hasn't failed me since. I've also noticed a speed up in colonization in contamed jars that have been exposed to light, air or both; however, DO NOT attempt to further cultivate these jars or fruit them (Some contam jars have fruited in the past) DO NOT eat anything grown on contamination.


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Re: Light during colonization [Re: soochi]
    #2131700 - 11/24/03 04:35 AM (13 years, 17 days ago)

I understand your point, all i'm saying is i did this with healthy jars which were stalled for 3 weeks and the light/air kicked them back into full growth and thought it might be worth something. The contam'd jars were just what gave me the idea of exposure. They also fruited as you mentioned and i have no intentions of eating anything possibly contaminated.


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