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first time PCing jars
    #21213051 - 02/01/15 07:45 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Ill be PCing a few jars tomorrow and used the search function but end up with conflicting instructions. While wearing hairnet beard net and gloves.

BRF, verm and water at a 1:2:1 with a tyvek under the lid with 3 nock holes foil then PCed for an hour at 15psi. let cool then crack open the lid let cool to room temp. nock using the oven method as flow hood then 2 layers of micropore tape.

anything I should change or do?

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Re: first time PCing jars [Re: 2shoes]
    #21213059 - 02/01/15 07:47 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Oven method is bullshit. Get your self a still air box.

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Re: first time PCing jars [Re: 2shoes]
    #21213231 - 02/01/15 08:21 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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newbie2shoes said:
Ill be PCing a few jars tomorrow and used the search function but end up with conflicting instructions. While wearing hairnet beard net and gloves.

BRF, verm and water at a 1:2:1 with a tyvek under the lid with 3 nock holes foil then PCed for an hour at 15psi. let cool then crack open the lid let cool to room temp. nock using the oven method as flow hood then 2 layers of micropore tape.

anything I should change or do?



I'd skip the tyvek under the lid.
fill your jars 2/3 full and fill the rest with DRY verm. You could put micropore tape over the 4 holes if you desire.
I'm not sure what lid your cracking but you don't need to. Let your pc sit over night and nock them up.
You don't really need a sab for brf cakes. Just go into the holes with a flaming red hot needle. Flame your needle after each one.


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Re: first time PCing jars [Re: 2shoes]
    #21213241 - 02/01/15 08:23 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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newbie2shoes said:
Ill be PCing a few jars tomorrow and used the search function but end up with conflicting instructions. While wearing hairnet beard net and gloves.

BRF, verm and water at a 1:2:1 with a tyvek under the lid with 3 nock holes foil then PCed for an hour at 15psi. let cool then crack open the lid let cool to room temp. nock using the oven method as flow hood then 2 layers of micropore tape.

anything I should change or do?


Way Way overkill you're over thinking t this  You don't need a hairnet or surgical mast  or none of that shit to noc PF cakes do yourself a favor get a tube of silicon and put a bead of it on your noc holes and drill one more hole in the center of your lid silicon a piece of tyvek over it for gas exchange (just make sure not to spread the silicon on yhe tyvek over the hole just glue the edges down) bring pc up to 15psi and keep it there for a half hour let cool over night is best wipe lid with alcohol swab  and inject to your hearts content after flaming the needle for each hole. not the tyvek hole You don't need an SAB or an oven you can take that jar into a f ing porta john and not get contams.


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Re: first time PCing jars [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #21213276 - 02/01/15 08:27 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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newbie2shoes said:
Ill be PCing a few jars tomorrow and used the search function but end up with conflicting instructions. While wearing hairnet beard net and gloves.

BRF, verm and water at a 1:2:1 with a tyvek under the lid with 3 nock holes foil then PCed for an hour at 15psi. let cool then crack open the lid let cool to room temp. nock using the oven method as flow hood then 2 layers of micropore tape.

anything I should change or do?


Way Way overkill you're over thinking t this  You don't need a hairnet or surgical mast  or none of that shit to noc PF cakes do yourself a favor get a tube of silicon and put a bead of it on your noc holes and drill one more hole in the center of your lid silicon a piece of tyvek over it for gas exchange (just make sure not to spread the silicon on yhe tyvek over the hole just glue the edges down) bring pc up to 15psi and keep it there for a half hour let cool over night is best wipe lid with alcohol swab  and inject to your hearts content after flaming the needle for each hole. not the tyvek hole You don't need an SAB or an oven you can take that jar into a f ing porta john and not get contams.



if you do that make sure you use red Rtv silicone.
That isn't necessary if you don't want to.


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Re: first time PCing jars [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #21213312 - 02/01/15 08:31 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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etc1time said:
Oven method is bullshit. Get your self a still air box.




okay I have a clear tote ill heat a coffee can to melt holes

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newbie2shoes said:
Ill be PCing a few jars tomorrow and used the search function but end up with conflicting instructions. While wearing hairnet beard net and gloves.

BRF, verm and water at a 1:2:1 with a tyvek under the lid with 3 nock holes foil then PCed for an hour at 15psi. let cool then crack open the lid let cool to room temp. nock using the oven method as flow hood then 2 layers of micropore tape.

anything I should change or do?



I'd skip the tyvek under the lid.
fill your jars 2/3 full and fill the rest with DRY verm. You could put micropore tape over the 4 holes if you desire.
I'm not sure what lid your cracking but you don't need to. Let your pc sit over night and nock them up.
You don't really need a sab for brf cakes. Just go into the holes with a flaming red hot needle. Flame your needle after each one.




by crack I ment open the pressure cooker. is it normal for the needle to spurt out liquid when I flame them?
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Way Way overkill you're over thinking t this  You don't need a hairnet or surgical mast  or none of that shit to noc PF cakes do yourself a favor get a tube of silicon and put a bead of it on your noc holes and drill one more hole in the center of your lid silicon a piece of tyvek over it for gas exchange (just make sure not to spread the silicon on yhe tyvek over the hole just glue the edges down) bring pc up to 15psi and keep it there for a half hour let cool over night is best wipe lid with alcohol swab  and inject to your hearts content after flaming the needle for each hole. not the tyvek hole You don't need an SAB or an oven you can take that jar into a f ing porta john and not get contams.







I work in a kitchen and have some lab training and hear everyone say clean and sterile. just trying to improve my odds.

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Re: first time PCing jars [Re: PurePleasure]
    #21213420 - 02/01/15 08:47 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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if you do that make sure you use red Rtv silicone.
That isn't necessary if you don't want to.



Actually clear household stands up fine to a pc and you can see the noc holes through it RTV is made for extremely high heat like 1700+ degrees like exhaust manifolds etc Clear plain old hardware stuff is more than up to the task of PC ing @ 15 psi a pc only heats to about 260 degrees


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Re: first time PCing jars [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #21213484 - 02/01/15 08:56 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I have some aquarium sealant that I could use. what about gas exchange if I silicone the holes?

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Re: first time PCing jars [Re: 2shoes]
    #21213589 - 02/01/15 09:15 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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I have some aquarium sealant that I could use. what about gas exchange if I silicone the holes?


That's what
the tyvek hole is for gas exchange and yes aquarium sealant will work just fine as long as it is sillicon. This is one of my grain jar lids so you get the Idea. It only has 2 holes the top is the injection port and the white tyvek square is silliconed over the other for gas exchange Just dont cover the part over the hole with sillicon.


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Re: first time PCing jars [Re: PurePleasure]
    #21213744 - 02/01/15 09:43 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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if you do that make sure you use red Rtv silicone.
That isn't necessary if you don't want to.



Any silicone will work....it doesn't have to be "high temp"....the PC only gets to 250F, when the melting point for normal silicone is usually way higher.

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Re: first time PCing jars [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #21213765 - 02/01/15 09:47 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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newbie2shoes said:
I have some aquarium sealant that I could use. what about gas exchange if I silicone the holes?


That's what
the tyvek hole is for gas exchange and yes aquarium sealant will work just fine as long as it is sillicon. This is one of my grain jar lids so you get the Idea. It only has 2 holes the top is the injection port and the white tyvek square is silliconed over the other for gas exchange Just dont cover the part over the hole with sillicon.





so 1 tyvek hole for gas and 1 silicone for noc? sorry I just toked a bit.:stoned:

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Re: first time PCing jars [Re: 2shoes]
    #21213829 - 02/01/15 09:59 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

No I was just using that as an example your 3 or 4 holes are fine  silliconed over just add another for Gas exchange You don't have to use tyvek you can stuff pollyfill in it. I just do mine this way because that works for me and with grains I've found that my setup works. Other people use different designs but the main goal is to keep contams out while still having gas exchange.


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Re: first time PCing jars [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #21213838 - 02/01/15 10:02 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

sounds good. I have tyvek but no polyfill so itll be tyvek. ill eventually egt into grains.

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Re: first time PCing jars [Re: 2shoes]
    #21214095 - 02/01/15 11:03 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Dude I just get lil bits of micropore tape over the inoculation holes (if you're not topping the sub with verm layer) and  make a still air box preferably one with some lighting and use lysol as many times as you feel paranoid about contams. Also you don't need an outfit to be sterile while Pc'in. Just make a still air box at least one made from a cardboard box tape and saran wrap or other see though sealable top with one hand hole higher the other so you get better movement. Buy yourself some long gloves. Dish washing gloves work fine and are reusable. I've only had one contam thus far and it's been interpreted a sacrifice with the all respect to the contam God's.

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Re: first time PCing jars [Re: UncleFester]
    #21214250 - 02/01/15 11:43 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

dont forget to let the jars cool for 8hrs or so before nocing up....:jah:


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