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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: Zimmerman arrested domestic violence w/ weapon [Re: lowbrow]
    #21102454 - 01/11/15 03:20 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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lowbrow said:
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akira_akuma said:

* stalking.

stalking is against the law. stalking creates a threat.

"one needs to be physically harmed first before a threat occurs"

you need to be told the definition of THREAT, as well. :facepalm:




No, he was following him.  Just to clear here is the definition of stalking laws in Florida and as you can see that what happened that night does not fit into the definition.
http://statelaws.findlaw.com/florida-law/florida-stalking-laws.html

  At least I hope you can tell that it does not fit that definition.



the law does not fit the definition of stalking.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/stalking

hence the law is specious.

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akira_akuma said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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can you define stalking please




noun
1.
the act or an instance of stalking, or harassing another in an aggressive, often threatening and illegal manner:
Stalking is now a crime in many states.
adjective
2.
of or relating to the act of pursuing or harassing

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/stalking





what did zimmerman do that actually fits that description?
did he approach martin?
did he stop martin and say anything?
in what way had zimmerman harassed martin?



he pursued him. which implies intent. that is not simply "following".

yes, he did approach Martin; just indirectly.

did he stop Martin and say anything? no. he should have.

he harassed Martin by pursuing him, and not presenting his intent to the service of his "job", and was concluded to be a threat.



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Re: Zimmerman arrested domestic violence w/ weapon [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21102478 - 01/11/15 03:25 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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akira_akuma said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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akira_akuma said:
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can you define stalking please




noun
1.
the act or an instance of stalking, or harassing another in an aggressive, often threatening and illegal manner:
Stalking is now a crime in many states.
adjective
2.
of or relating to the act of pursuing or harassing

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/stalking





what did zimmerman do that actually fits that description?
did he approach martin?
did he stop martin and say anything?
in what way had zimmerman harassed martin?



he pursued him. which implies intent. that is not simply "following".





trayvon martin ran from zimmerman, did george zimmerman chase him down?

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yes, he did approach Martin; just indirectly.





bullshit

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did he stop Martin and say anything? no. he should have.




why, what obligation was zimmerman under to say anything to martin

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he harassed Martin by pursuing him, and not presenting his intent to the service of his "job", and was concluded to be a threat.





once more, trayvon martin ran from zimmerman, did george zimmerman chase him down?


now, how was george zimmerman still a threat when martin had ran and 'escaped'

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Re: Zimmerman arrested domestic violence w/ weapon [Re: lowbrow]
    #21102491 - 01/11/15 03:28 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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lowbrow said:
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akira_akuma said:

* stalking.

stalking is against the law. stalking creates a threat.

"one needs to be physically harmed first before a threat occurs"

you need to be told the definition of THREAT, as well. :facepalm:




No, he was following him.  Just to clear here is the definition of stalking laws in Florida and as you can see that what happened that night does not fit into the definition.
http://statelaws.findlaw.com/florida-law/florida-stalking-laws.html

  At least I hope you can tell that it does not fit that definition.



I've tried this with him already. His opinion is greater and more authoritative than the law. However, for some reason, his opinion cannot cause anything to actually happen to GZ, but the law can. So, it almost seems like the law is above is opinion. Funny how that works.


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Re: Zimmerman arrested domestic violence w/ weapon [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21102506 - 01/11/15 03:30 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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akira_akuma said:
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lowbrow said:
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akira_akuma said:

* stalking.

stalking is against the law. stalking creates a threat.

"one needs to be physically harmed first before a threat occurs"

you need to be told the definition of THREAT, as well. :facepalm:




No, he was following him.  Just to clear here is the definition of stalking laws in Florida and as you can see that what happened that night does not fit into the definition.
http://statelaws.findlaw.com/florida-law/florida-stalking-laws.html

  At least I hope you can tell that it does not fit that definition.



the law does not fit the definition of stalking.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/stalking

hence the law is specious.





well the legal definition of stalking applies to matters of law so you're
arbitrary use of stalking, while still being used incorrectly still wouldnt
apply in this case

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Re: Zimmerman arrested domestic violence w/ weapon [Re: Webster10]
    #21102532 - 01/11/15 03:33 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Webster10 said:
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lowbrow said:
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akira_akuma said:

* stalking.

stalking is against the law. stalking creates a threat.

"one needs to be physically harmed first before a threat occurs"

you need to be told the definition of THREAT, as well. :facepalm:




No, he was following him.  Just to clear here is the definition of stalking laws in Florida and as you can see that what happened that night does not fit into the definition.
http://statelaws.findlaw.com/florida-law/florida-stalking-laws.html

  At least I hope you can tell that it does not fit that definition.



I've tried this with him already. His opinion is greater and more authoritative than the law. However, for some reason, his opinion cannot cause anything to actually happen to GZ, but the law can. So, it almost seems like the law is above is opinion. Funny how that works.





there's a reason I'm breaking it down the the most basic of english, he's
canadian so I wouldnt expect him to understand words with greater than two
syllables or what legal definitions are

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Re: Zimmerman arrested domestic violence w/ weapon [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21102546 - 01/11/15 03:35 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

English? Legal definitions? :rofl2:

All of those are beneath logic. Logic is anything akira says.


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Re: Zimmerman arrested domestic violence w/ weapon [Re: Webster10]
    #21102712 - 01/11/15 03:58 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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well the legal definition of stalking applies to matters of law so you're
arbitrary use of stalking, while still being used incorrectly still wouldnt
apply in this case



no, not "not being used incorrectly".

it's "being used correctly"; that's the term you're looking for. stalking is clearly defined, and you can't change the definition. the law cannot either, but it can state that stalking isn't a legal problem until it's done "repeatedly". which means nothing. all it means is "hi, i'm a law, and i'm gonna make up what bullshit i want".

stalking isn't stalking if it's not done repeatedly, then why have the word? oh that's right because the word defines the parameters of the law and of definition. but the law, in this case, confuses this definition.

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now, how was george zimmerman still a threat when martin had ran and 'escaped'




he wasn't. but he was as he was stalking him, though. Trayvon shouldn't have gone back to the park.

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why, what obligation was zimmerman under to say anything to martin




there wasn't an "obligation". it simply would have resolved any instance of a threat towards Martin, if he had announced his reasons for keeping an eye on him. with no threat, there is no stalking, because it turns from a pursuit and stalker-behavior, to someone being a "watchman", which he posited to be his job.

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once more, trayvon martin ran from zimmerman, did george zimmerman chase him down?




when he ran off, after Martin noticed him in the park, no, he didn't.



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Webster10 said:
English? Legal definitions? :rofl2:

All of those are beneath logic. Logic is anything akira says.



no; logic is that which can be posited and explained as true.

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Re: Zimmerman arrested domestic violence w/ weapon [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21102754 - 01/11/15 04:11 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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now, how was george zimmerman still a threat when martin had ran and 'escaped'




he wasn't. but he was as he was stalking him, though. Trayvon shouldn't have gone back to the park.




so what you're saying is that even though martin managed to put himself 100
yards away from zimmerman, right at his daddy's doorstep and zimmerman was
standing around with his thumb up his butt waiting on a cop to show up to
make a report of a suspicious character that he posed enough of a danger to
have deserved to be attacked by martin

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why, what obligation was zimmerman under to say anything to martin




there wasn't an "obligation". it simply would have resolved any instance of a threat towards Martin, if he had announced his reasons for keeping an eye on him. with no threat, there is no stalking, because it turns from a pursuit and stalker-behavior, to someone being a "watchman", which he posited to be his job.




but he was under no obligation to make contact with martin, in fact doing
so could prove to be a liability for zimmerman because he'd certainly be
overstepping his bounds according to all the fools that have been screaming
for zimmerman's blood. at the point that zimmerman decides to stop and ask
a few questions doesnt that mean he's taken on the role of a police officer?


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once more, trayvon martin ran from zimmerman, did george zimmerman chase him down?




when he ran off, after Martin noticed him in the park, no, he didn't.




can you clarify this

when who ran off?
who did martin notice in the 'park'?
and no, who didnt what?

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Re: Zimmerman arrested domestic violence w/ weapon [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21102778 - 01/11/15 04:18 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I can't take this ignorance anymore.


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Re: Zimmerman arrested domestic violence w/ weapon [Re: lowbrow] * 1
    #21102782 - 01/11/15 04:20 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

You can, you just have to believe.

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Re: Zimmerman arrested domestic violence w/ weapon [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21103329 - 01/11/15 06:33 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Zimmerman was not logical.




He's not the smartest guy, but he didn't break any laws that night, Martin did and it cost him his life.

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Re: Zimmerman arrested domestic violence w/ weapon [Re: qman]
    #21104287 - 01/11/15 09:18 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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to
have deserved to be attacked by martin




no

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at the point that zimmerman decides to stop and ask
a few questions doesnt that mean he's taken on the role of a police officer?




no.

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Re: Zimmerman arrested domestic violence w/ weapon [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21203453 - 01/30/15 05:16 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)


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Re: Zimmerman arrested domestic violence w/ weapon [Re: qman]
    #21203465 - 01/30/15 05:18 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Looks like another female lied to the police.






say it aint so, a woman lying to the cops. this is unheard of

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Re: Zimmerman arrested domestic violence w/ weapon [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21203481 - 01/30/15 05:22 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I think I called this was going to happen about 12-13 pages ago.

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Re: Zimmerman arrested domestic violence w/ weapon [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21203508 - 01/30/15 05:25 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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qman said:

Looks like another female lied to the police.






say it aint so, a woman lying to the cops. this is unheard of




Why should it ever stop?  Falsely accusing men of physical and sexual violence is a god given right (according to the law), and when you get caught in a serious lie that can destroy a man's life, nothing happens.  :cookiemonster:

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Re: Zimmerman arrested domestic violence w/ weapon [Re: qman]
    #21203519 - 01/30/15 05:28 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, I saw that a couple days ago but I can't update every lying piece of shit h8er post.  Thanks for doing the work of finding this old thread


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Re: Zimmerman arrested domestic violence w/ weapon [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21203828 - 01/30/15 06:23 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

This lady (his gf) that accused him of throwing a wine bottle at her is not the same woman that was with him during the Trayvon trial right?


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