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What is the lowest humidity possible
    #2120323 - 11/18/03 05:39 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

I would like to know what the lowest possible humidity is that I would have to maintain to fruit some mushrooms. Could I possibly just raise the humidity every once in a while? The reason for my question is that I would like to create a symbiotic relationship between Cannabis and Psilocybe. From what I have read on this site, the mycelium would benefit from a host plant, and the Cannabis would benefit from having a living mycelium culture in it's soil. Besides that fact, the Psilocybe would be creating CO2 which would make the Cannabis grow faster and bigger, and the Cannabis would be creating Oxygen to help the mycelium grow mushrooms faster. But, above all, I would just really like to see a Cannabis plant with psychedelic mushrooms growing out of the soil underneath it. I can picture it now . . . .


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Re: What is the lowest humidity possible [Re: hasan_i_sabah]
    #2120360 - 11/18/03 05:51 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

The question is how HIGH can you keep the rh without hurthing the MJ


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Re: What is the lowest humidity possible [Re: hasan_i_sabah]
    #2120378 - 11/18/03 05:56 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

If you have a plant that has grown to a decent size you could tie it at the bottom and trim it. Then repot it in a bigger, well cleaned pot. Keep the soil level low in the pot. Line the soil with perlite, then put cakes on top of that, around the base of the plant. You want the perlite to be low enough to give the cakes room to grow though, or you could do mini casings. Then cover the top of the pot with that self sealing saran wrap. That would give you a mini terrarium at the base of the plant. Then you just run a hose into the pot beneath the level where the perlite is and pump water/nutrients into the soil as needed. It wouldn't be the best situation, for either organism, but the two really don't thrive under the same conditions and if you plan to have plants with mushrooms growing out of them you may find only frustration.


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Re: What is the lowest humidity possible [Re: havatampa]
    #2120384 - 11/18/03 06:00 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

Indoors this is going to be tricky because they are very different organisms. Outside you have a better shot, with more space.


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Re: What is the lowest humidity possible [Re: thisone]
    #2124536 - 11/20/03 09:28 AM (13 years, 23 days ago)

Thanks, I actuallly thought about that, the outside idea. That was the reason for my question, how does the shrooms and mycelium grow outside when it's not 90% humidity all the time? Is there some way I could do what nature does, and raise the humidity like every three days or something?
Also, is there a place to find information on outdoor Psilocybe cultivation, I read Moe's technique in the archive on this site, but that is not very in depth. Thanks.


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Re: What is the lowest humidity possible [Re: hasan_i_sabah]
    #2125009 - 11/20/03 02:10 PM (13 years, 23 days ago)

how does the shrooms and mycelium grow outside when it's not 90% humidity all the time?

They get it from moisture in the soil, as long as the ground is not bone dry, they'll get all the moisture they need.


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Re: What is the lowest humidity possible [Re: biglo]
    #2125035 - 11/20/03 02:26 PM (13 years, 23 days ago)

Thank you very much biglo, that is some good news. It seems that my master plan will be able to work well after all for both of the "plants." Havatampa's idea would be implemented, maybe with some changes, but it sounded good in theory. Anyone have any more thoughts about this? Hopefully I will have some crazy pictures in about 4-5 months, and I'll be sure to post them, and especially send the pictures to the people that posted to the question. Thanks guys, my mind is racing a mile-a-minute now.


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Re: What is the lowest humidity possible [Re: hasan_i_sabah]
    #2125189 - 11/20/03 03:29 PM (13 years, 23 days ago)

I would like to know what the lowest possible humidity is that I would have to maintain to fruit some mushrooms.

they need very high humidity to form pins, but can fruit at lower humidities. you may get things like splitting on the caps and poor fruiting though.

The reason for my question is that I would like to create a symbiotic relationship between Cannabis and Psilocybe. From what I have read on this site, the mycelium would benefit from a host plant, and the Cannabis would benefit from having a living mycelium culture in it's soil.

where have you read that? it's not sound advice. for one, cubensis does not grow in soil, it grows on manure, straw, or grain. more importantly, if you want to grow good herb, you need a drier climate, not a wetter one... the two organisms do not coexist very well together... the environments they live in are different.

Besides that fact, the Psilocybe would be creating CO2 which would make the Cannabis grow faster and bigger, and the Cannabis would be creating Oxygen to help the mycelium grow mushrooms faster.

mushroom's need for fresh air has more to do with removing CO2 than it does with providing O2. meanwhile, cannabis plants do better with high CO2 levels. again... the two may seem compatible when it comes to gasses involved, but in fact they are not.

these two organisms really wouldn't grow well side-by-side in the same environment. better to keep them seperate... a good environment for cannabis is a bad environment for mushrooms and a good environment for mushrooms is a bad one for cannabis.


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