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 castaway
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I've done mushrooms like about 3 times, and just colors no hallucinations,
Yeah I agree it could kill you psychologicaly that's why I respect it.
I think whatever spiritual growth I may have acquired is due in most part to the altered states provided by entheogens, from which vantage I could question "normal" reality...and I agree that sacraments need to be handled with respect.
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 Swami
Eggshell Walker
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So far my short experience here at the Shroomery has been negative.
Perception is in the eye of the beholder. Negative people see negative things.
I keep wondering why there are so many people on this site...
It is a cool place to hang out.
... and so far almost everyone that has replied to any my posts appear to me as if they don't really understand what tripping is all about.
Yup! All 3,000 of us (except you) are ignorant.
I did not come here to argue I came here to discuss what I have seen with others.
No, just to make arrogant proclamations of superiority.
Apparently, this site is made up of SKEPTICS>
This site is made of of all different kinds of people with various mindsets and experiences.
How can a site devoted to mushrooms have so many skeptics to other peoples visions while communing with the medicine?
I would bet that not one member doubts that you have had visions while tripping.
Do you debunk your own visions?
What does that mean?
If so then stop tripping right now.
Because you have commanded it?
The medicine has nothing to offer to a skeptic.
You have no idea what it offers to others.
Here is another example.
Of what? What was the first example?
I don't know how long I will remain here.
So everyone else here should change to accomodate you?
It kinda feels like OVERGROW. with all of the flaming and childish behavior.
*Holds up mirror*
So far I have only seen people try to DEBUNK any ones posts that have to do with the supernatural.
There is no "try"; only "do".
Swami for example. His whole thread on Why did shamanism fail is a prime example.
There was no debunking. It is called history. Shamanic societies have been nearly wiped out in the Americas. That does not sound like success no matter how you spin it.
My suggestions of upping the dosage might open some of their eyes to the truth.
THE TRUTH? Or your truth?
Psilocybin can not kill you physically.
False.
Psilocybin will kill you, your ego or personality.
Uh huh. Then we can making sweeping statements of what thousands of other people should and should not do. There is no Ego in that, now is there?
For some they don't understand what they see because they did not approach the medicine with respect. Therefore, there trips are worhtless.
I do not tip toe up to the "medicine", nor do I sing it's praises and lay down offerings to a chemical; yet my trips are far from worthless.
If I double my dosage can I learn to be as judgemental as you?
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The proof is in the pudding.
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medicinebag
Hunting
Registered: 11/15/03
Posts: 344
Loc: The land of The People
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 Re: Medicinbag  [Re: Swami]
#2119394 - 11/18/03 09:32 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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As I said before Swami.
I don't play the game where I put down what you said in BOLD and answer with some little psudo-funny remark. Sorry. I'm not here to play the "argue" game with you. Or any games for that matter. I am here because I wanted to talk with others about what they have seen while out of their bodies. Albeit, I haven't tried hard enough to find them. And honestly when I read your posts, my ego surfaced. It will take at least two sessions to resolve that one with the medicine.
Here is what I "see". At one time you thought the medicine could help you. Then nothing magical happened when you called the medicine out. So you gave up. Now you like to debunk anything spiritual or supernatural about the medicine. I felt that way once as well. At one time I called the medicine out like that too. And of course nothing special happened. You have to treat the medicine like a wild animal. You can't just walk up to a wild animal and expect it to play with you like a dog. No, the medicne is a wolf. And to play with the wolf takes years and years before the wolf gets to know YOU personally before he will let you pet him.
Maybe if you wouldn't have "called' the medicine out like that and respected it for the power it is, something magical and special might have happened. No. instead. you like to Rag the medicine. Why are posting in a forum on spirituality and philosophy at a mushroom site when its obvious that you only belive in what a test tube can produce. The medicine will not Perform for you like a dog with a frisbe. No you must follow the medicine back to his lair for the true lessons. May you see the truth one day.
Medicinebag
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Swami
Eggshell Walker
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And honestly when I read your posts, my ego surfaced.
Your ego has always been there, you have just denied it and I pointed it out. This is called "self-delusion" and you would do well to drop it before you make claims of superior spirituality.
Here is what I "see". At one time you thought the medicine could help you. Then nothing magical happened when you called the medicine out. So you gave up.
Wrong. Your powers of analysis or "seeing" are quite weak. Perhaps time to double the dosage.
Now you like to debunk anything spiritual or supernatural about the medicine. I felt that way once as well. At one time I called the medicine out like that too. And of course nothing special happened.
Never said nothing special happens. Misquoting is a cheap way to attempt to make a point.
You can't just walk up to a wild animal and expect it to play with you like a dog. No, the medicne is a wolf. And to play with the wolf takes years and years before the wolf gets to know YOU personally before he will let you pet him.
My fungi let me pet them right away.
No. instead. you like to Rag the medicine.
I like to rag on silly posts. I never rag on my mushies.
Why are posting in a forum on spirituality and philosophy at a mushroom site when its obvious that you only belive in what a test tube can produce.
(Is this a question?) We are back to the non-existent test tube yet again?
May you see the truth one day.
My truth, the truth or your truth?
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medicinebag
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Re: Medicinbag [Re: Swami]
#2120036 - 11/18/03 01:53 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Everyone of those "arguments" were weak.
All you do is cut up my quotes and you don't answer the issues. You just joke about it all and try to avoid everything else. I will not answer anymore of your posts as long as you don't answer mine. It seems we are opposites. Most of your "answers" to my argument are jokes. Goodday.
Medicinebag
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