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Re: The term [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #21190629 - 01/28/15 10:03 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Racial oppression isn't still happening in America.



:facepalm:  Obviously, you're not black.



That logic :awedisgust:

How are blacks being oppressed? Last time I checked all they got was special privileges.

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Obama is a good president.

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought all we were doing was making blatantly false statements with no factual proof.

But really, who needs factual proof anyways, your opinion is more authoritative, correct? :rofl2: I still can't get over that one.




Maybe that's because you tucked tail and hid from this thread until we stopped discussing actual numbers.

Feel free to get over that one and read the thread.



Says the guy who thinks his opinion is more authoritative than a research study :lol:

I posted actual numbers showing blacks commit more crimes. You are refusing to provide a real example of current racial oppression in America.


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Re: The term [Re: Webster10]
    #21191316 - 01/28/15 12:29 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Says the guy who thinks his opinion is more authoritative than a research study :lol:




I never said that.

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posted actual numbers showing blacks commit more crimes.




Not a single person, least of all me, is arguing that.


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You are refusing to provide a real example of current racial oppression in America.




No I'm not, I already did.





You're batting .000 :lol:


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Re: The term [Re: SeaShrooms]
    #21191607 - 01/28/15 01:22 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Generalizing characteristics to a race of people is what's prejudice. 
Racism; however, is not just prejudice. It's prejudices + systematic oppression of said race. While minorities can often be prejudice against whites, it's not accurate to call that racism, because there is no systematic oppression of white people by minorities in America.


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Re: The term [Re: Smokey420]
    #21191628 - 01/28/15 01:26 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Generalizing characteristics to a race of people is what's prejudice. 
Racism; however, is not just prejudice. It's prejudices + systematic oppression of said race. While minorities can often be prejudice against whites, it's not accurate to call that racism, because there is no systematic oppression of white people by minorities in America.




Kinda.

If there's a black judge punishing whites more strictly than other races, that's still oppression, whether it was previously sanctioned by society or not.

But you're right, in the vast majority of cases, whites are not oppressed in this country, hence the term 'white privilege.'


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Re: The term [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
    #21191855 - 01/28/15 02:26 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Every Caucasian who applies to a college, applies for a government job, applies for a job in academia or tries to get a contract with the government is being oppressed.


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Re: The term [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21191868 - 01/28/15 02:28 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Bullshit


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Re: The term [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #21191875 - 01/28/15 02:30 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Says the guy who thinks his opinion is more authoritative than a research study :lol:




I never said that.

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posted actual numbers showing blacks commit more crimes.




Not a single person, least of all me, is arguing that.


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You are refusing to provide a real example of current racial oppression in America.




No I'm not, I already did.





You're batting .000 :lol:



You said it and tried to support it with the usual failure of logic of yours. No facts, as usual.

What numbers are you talking about then?

That was a cute evasion.

You're batting .000


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Re: The term [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21191885 - 01/28/15 02:31 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Every Caucasian who applies to a college, applies for a government job, applies for a job in academia or tries to get a contract with the government is being oppressed.



Informed-ness, gotta love it.


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Re: The term [Re: Smokey420] * 1
    #21191926 - 01/28/15 02:42 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Bullshit



No it is not.

1.  Affirmative Action admissions policies.  This does not need a link.  It is common knowledge
2.  Diversity golas in college hiring
3.  Diversity goals in government hiring
4.  Minority set asides for government contracts.


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Re: The term [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21191953 - 01/28/15 02:47 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: The term [Re: Smokey420]
    #21191971 - 01/28/15 02:51 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

So the intention was racist but the law makers failed to make it effective. I'm not seeing any address of the other ways whites are being oppressed.


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Re: The term [Re: Smokey420] * 1
    #21192010 - 01/28/15 02:59 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Look, I can post links too.



That is a very special talent.  Unqualified minorities are taking the spaces in universities from qualified Caucasians.  Oppression.


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Re: The term [Re: Webster10]
    #21192058 - 01/28/15 03:11 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Webster10 said:
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The Ecstatic said:
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Says the guy who thinks his opinion is more authoritative than a research study :lol:




I never said that.

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posted actual numbers showing blacks commit more crimes.




Not a single person, least of all me, is arguing that.


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You are refusing to provide a real example of current racial oppression in America.




No I'm not, I already did.





You're batting .000 :lol:



You said it and tried to support it with the usual failure of logic of yours. No facts, as usual.

What numbers are you talking about then?

That was a cute evasion.

You're batting .000




It wasn't an evasion, it's explaining why everything you claimed is wrong.

And even if it was, you used the exact same line :lol: Just stick to mocking the underage kids in the pub where you actually stand a chance.


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Re: The term [Re: Webster10]
    #21192066 - 01/28/15 03:13 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)


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Every Caucasian who applies to a college, applies for a government job, applies for a job in academia or tries to get a contract with the government is being oppressed.



Informed-ness, gotta love it.



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How is racial oppression ancient history? Because it's illegal?


In that case drunk driving and beating your wife is ancient history.



That really qualifies as a valid argument in your mind?

Racial oppression...in America is ancient history. No one is arguing it doesn't exist elsewhere.




It's not an argument it's an analogy, to start. And yes, it's valid.

You're implying that since we came together and a majority agreed that slavery, and then a century later discrimination, should be illegal. But that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Just like finally agreeing that the stories pastime of beating your wife should be illegal, and yet it still happens.

Still confused?



That analogy doesn't make sense. Racial oppression isn't still happening in America.





What? It must be easy to condescend when you claim both sides of the argument are correct.


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Re: The term [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #21192098 - 01/28/15 03:18 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Webster10 said:
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The Ecstatic said:
It's not an argument it's an analogy, to start. And yes, it's valid.

You're implying that since we came together and a majority agreed that slavery, and then a century later discrimination, should be illegal. But that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Just like finally agreeing that the stories pastime of beating your wife should be illegal, and yet it still happens.

Still confused?



That analogy doesn't make sense. Racial oppression isn't still happening in America.





What? It must be easy to condescend when you claim both sides of the argument are correct.



what are you babbling about? When did I appeal to both sides of this debate?


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Re: The term [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #21192111 - 01/28/15 03:20 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
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Webster10 said:
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The Ecstatic said:
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Says the guy who thinks his opinion is more authoritative than a research study :lol:




I never said that.

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posted actual numbers showing blacks commit more crimes.




Not a single person, least of all me, is arguing that.


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You are refusing to provide a real example of current racial oppression in America.




No I'm not, I already did.





You're batting .000 :lol:



You said it and tried to support it with the usual failure of logic of yours. No facts, as usual.

What numbers are you talking about then?

That was a cute evasion.

You're batting .000




It wasn't an evasion, it's explaining why everything you claimed is wrong.

And even if it was, you used the exact same line :lol: Just stick to mocking the underage kids in the pub where you actually stand a chance.



Another evasion and personal jab.. sigh.

You did say your opinion is more valid than a research study.

what numbers are you talking about?

how are blacks being oppressed in america currently?

Please don't reply if you're not going to be direct.


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Re: The term [Re: Webster10]
    #21192117 - 01/28/15 03:21 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

You commented on zappaisgod's "informed-ness" about whites being oppressed a page after you said racial oppression isn't still happening


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Re: The term [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #21192127 - 01/28/15 03:23 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Please quote me where I said my opinion is more valid than a scientific study.

And what do numbers have to do with "refusing to provide a real work example of racial oppression?"


Apparently you agree with zappa's example, I believe the one I used is a racist judge giving stricter sentences to black convicts.


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Re: The term [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #21192130 - 01/28/15 03:24 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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You commented on zappaisgod's "informed-ness" about whites being oppressed a page after you said racial oppression isn't still happening



It wasn't obvious to you that earlier I was referring to blacks? That is what this whole thread is about. I wasn't going to bring up whites being oppressed because I'd just be labeled a baby who is crying white tears. It's happened before.


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Re: The term [Re: Webster10]
    #21192151 - 01/28/15 03:29 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
You commented on zappaisgod's "informed-ness" about whites being oppressed a page after you said racial oppression isn't still happening



It wasn't obvious to you that earlier I was referring to blacks? That is what this whole thread is about. I wasn't going to bring up whites being oppressed because I'd just be labeled a baby who is crying white tears. It's happened before.




We've been talking about racial oppression, white, black, even asian, so far.


Don't tell me I'm babbling because you can't get the terminology to travel from your head to the keyboard.


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