exactly what it says, and you said, there's no individual doer, things just happen. nobody care about spirituality, but there's still caring about spirituality. just like nobody actually gets burnt, but there's still burning. there is never a doer, everything is verbs, a lot of it verbs disquised as adjectives. anywhere you look there's no doers to be found, things just grow or decline or absorb or emit or anything else on their own, or not on their own, but they are those things and nothing before or beyond it. there's just a constant death/birth going on at a very rapid pace at all points and at all times, just change. there's the appearance of a doer at times, or a 'center' that everything happens around, and 'flows' out of, but this is just awareness of a reference, limiting awareness for the sake of gaining some chunk of understanding, every thing is a center and also 'part' of the outside of every other center. i'm not sure on a self though, i don't think it means there's nobody at all, just no doer.
I wana add on to this a bit with an edit to clarify 'every thing is a center and also part of the outside of every center', it's on a more 'base' level than just 'things', the word things might give the wrong idea, it's more points. so not thing as a recognised and agreed upon object, like an orange or a sparrow or a river, but just a point. so any agreed on object, like a river or an orange, contains huge numbers of centers/peripheries. any center is made up of and defined by the centers surrounding it, overlapping, and just the same is overlapped onto the centers surrounding it and is part of those centers also. you can have two 'centers', and move into the peripery or the gap between those centers, and suddenly those centers are no longer centers, and the gap between is now the center. anywhere you go you can find a center, because there is none, just the 'illusion' of it, and in turn this would mean there's no doer.
Edited by Pope (01/28/15 02:10 PM)
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oh no i know this full and well, words have nothing to do with anything and are inherently false understandings, i had a period where i went almost completely silent for a couple of years, just because words were glaringly wrong and misleading things to me, and i felt like i was by default lying anytime i spoke. i think now though that they can point to things, or get a person closer to a proper understanding. verbs pretty much mean motion, and like you said, looping and jumping and dancing and all that jazz, & i think 'all is verbs' is still delusional thinking, but its agreed meaning implies something closer to the looping and dancing going on, points to it. a rose is never the word rose, but if you wanted someone to grab one for whatever reason but you didnt know what language they spoke just for example, eventually after you've went through enough of the words for rose one will ring a bell and theyll go ah and grab the rose. i think mouth noises can be beneficial in the same sense, they dont get you there but they can, if you translate your idea correctly for their worldview and wordage, if you hit the right button, get them within reaching distance of whatever it is.
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