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Re: There is no doer [Re: yeah]
    #21191124 - 01/28/15 11:53 AM (9 years, 2 days ago)

I am seeing a blue planet in the sky, leaves and worms are being eaten, sunlight converted to plants to shrooms to elks to birds to primates, I see long cycles, a whole molecular dance and fun times taking place, but there's no real individual identity to any part of it. A fish is a process that makes more fish, it's the planet that's fish-ing, or cat-ing or bird-ing or tree-ing or human-ing or dolphin-ing.

There's on one level nobody to care about spirituality, but on another THE WHOLE PLANET cares about it, and one of its forms that it does this in, is you or me.

The same way that nobody really cares about the magnesium content of rotting wood, EXCEPT the worms and mushrooms that deal with it directly, they're quite busy at it, enjoying to the max a good piece of magnesium-rich wood, or whatever wood happens to contain :lol:

It's all loops loops loops, through hoops hoops hoops. The whole exists, the divisions between parts are illusory. There is no individual doer, because the whole of it organically does itself.

For comparison, who runs your body? The muscles, the nerves or the blood cells? Does any of them have individual control? Which part of you is more spiritual, your left eye or your nose? :biggrin:


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Re: There is no doer [Re: Pope]
    #21192463 - 01/28/15 04:33 PM (9 years, 1 day ago)

I think this whole mega-process, the fractalic molecular symphony/dance/game that's happening here, we can pretty much all agree on what it is, the animation, the visual parts of it, but where humans don't agree much is what exact mouth noise should go with what thought or process :lol:

Seriously, I could start tackling things like:
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everything is verbs, a lot of it verbs disquised as adjectives



and say that everything is process, that even "verbs" is simply a mental mouth noise that primates tell to themselves or each other, and the "tree" outside (the pattern in which water and chlorophyll exists for a while in one place, that primates call "tree") - that pattern is NOT the same thing as the mouth noise that primates use for it.

It's indeed just looping, loop loop loop, everything going around everything else, changing states, jumping from one bag to another, orbiting and looping.

I do have an idea that the electrical part of it is a bit different than the molecular/physical part of it, in the sense that "We" as the consciousness, might well be just something to do with the electricity, and we can run "on" the physical pathways set by material neurons and nerves, but we're just "running along" those lines, we're not exactly "of" the material, chemical molecular realm.

We (as in, the electrics) might be individuals (no way to tell really, as we can't look up to see if we're distinct) or just individual fingers from a larger hand, like an oversoul.

In any case, on the physical plane, all the molecules and bodies, the birds and trees, that's all clearly just loops and patterns going ta-dee-dah, tro lo lo, dancing around and around :dancer: :teleport:


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Re: There is no doer [Re: Pope]
    #21193211 - 01/28/15 06:53 PM (9 years, 1 day ago)

It's all good, as long as people eat the food, not the menu with the food names :lol:


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