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InvisibleTRS
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what does overlay look like?
    #2119024 - 11/18/03 05:13 AM (13 years, 23 days ago)

my very first casing is starting to get covered in mycellium. im new to casing so im not too sure if its going good or not. its in my pmp but its only been in there for 5 days so im not worrying too much so far. ive read faqs but reading can only tell me so much. hopefully in a few days ill see some pins but i need to know what to look out for.


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Re: what does overlay look like? [Re: TRS]
    #2119036 - 11/18/03 05:34 AM (13 years, 23 days ago)

i bet the mycelium on your casing looks light and fluffy.
dont worry thats normal.
if it looks something like this you'll be seeing pins soon.
if you look closely you will see hyphal knots in this pic.



hope that helps.



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Re: what does overlay look like? [Re: Hanky]
    #2119048 - 11/18/03 05:58 AM (13 years, 23 days ago)

yes, that was extremely helpfull.  youre right, light and fluffy myc.  youve answered quite a few of my qs, i just wanna give something back, if youre ever down under let me know and ill let you sample some of the fruits of my labour :smile:.  although, i thought that something like that pic wouldve been overlayed, so what does overlay look like?


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Re: what does overlay look like? [Re: TRS]
    #2119049 - 11/18/03 06:02 AM (13 years, 23 days ago)

:smile: i am downunder....see what it says under my avatar?
overlay looks hard and dense,something like the surface of brf cakes when you first birth them.


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Re: what does overlay look like? [Re: Hanky]
    #2119050 - 11/18/03 06:04 AM (13 years, 23 days ago)

PS...dont mist the surface of your casing directly....or you will find out what overlay looks like.


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Re: what does overlay look like? [Re: Hanky]
    #2119064 - 11/18/03 06:27 AM (13 years, 23 days ago)

lol, holy shit, i didnt even notice. i just got back from vic on sunday. if only i had known sooner.


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Re: what does overlay look like? [Re: TRS]
    #2119078 - 11/18/03 06:52 AM (13 years, 23 days ago)

oh well maybe next time.
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Re: what does overlay look like? [Re: Hanky]
    #2119237 - 11/18/03 10:03 AM (13 years, 23 days ago)

According to Stamets, the casing of that pic is overlayed and with stroma on it. Here: http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23449


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Re: what does overlay look like? [Re: Semilanceata]
    #2119521 - 11/18/03 01:12 PM (13 years, 23 days ago)

That picture shows light, fluffy growth--not dead, bright, matted overlay.


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Re: what does overlay look like? [Re: havatampa]
    #2119592 - 11/18/03 01:39 PM (13 years, 23 days ago)

I don?t agree. Look at the left down corner und upper right.


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Re: what does overlay look like? [Re: Semilanceata]
    #2119615 - 11/18/03 01:48 PM (13 years, 23 days ago)

But a little dead mycelium doesn't equal overlay.


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Re: what does overlay look like? [Re: havatampa]
    #2119671 - 11/18/03 02:06 PM (13 years, 23 days ago)

Maybe you see something, I see another thing (happens all the time).
Some say 80% RH, some 95% RH. Some say no need to colonize the casing layer, some say yes. Do you get good results that way ? Keep going.


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Re: what does overlay look like? [Re: Semilanceata]
    #2119719 - 11/18/03 02:18 PM (13 years, 23 days ago)

Right on.  :smile:


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Re: what does overlay look like? [Re: havatampa]
    #2119917 - 11/18/03 03:18 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

In my book, anything that's a mat is overlayed. The casing above is overlayed. It won't fruit as well as one that's not overlayed.

It's way too humid, too.

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Re: what does overlay look like? [Re: micro]
    #2119944 - 11/18/03 03:28 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

Hanky...Was that pic from your own...er...from your friend's own grow? If so, how did it turn out?


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Re: what does overlay look like? [Re: havatampa]
    #2121829 - 11/19/03 04:45 AM (13 years, 22 days ago)

here is a progression of pics.
it's a 2 1/2 pints cased top and bottom with 60/40,the crushed cakes are also mixed with 60/40 and the whole lot is misted heaps as i lay down each layer,no PH buffering was used.it was only incubated for 72 hours.and as you can see i fruit my casings in a pmp,well a veriation of the pmp anyway.













as you can see Semilanceata...there's no overlay on that casing,if i had over incubated it and misted the myc directly it would have overlayed but i doub't i'd be that dumb.
and Micro,,what were you saying about that casing not fruiting well??

show me some significantly better results from 1 pint of brf and i'll eat my dog.

ps...i should mention that these brf cakes also contained organic hulled millet,


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Re: what does overlay look like? [Re: Hanky]
    #2122149 - 11/19/03 10:29 AM (13 years, 22 days ago)

That was overlayed, and it can fruit better. Looks good, though. You have it in a terrarium or something, anyway, so it doesn't really need the casing, but the pinset would be more even if it didn't overlay.

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Re: what does overlay look like? [Re: Hanky]
    #2122189 - 11/19/03 10:58 AM (13 years, 22 days ago)

Good for you  :thumbup: :wink: 


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Re: what does overlay look like? [Re: micro]
    #2124163 - 11/20/03 01:49 AM (13 years, 21 days ago)

Quote:

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That was overlayed, and it can fruit better. Looks good, though. You have it in a terrarium or something, anyway, so it doesn't really need the casing, but the pinset would be more even if it didn't overlay.

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"that was overlayed" no,once again i will say"THAT IS NOT OVERLAY"overlay is hard dead myc that will not produce pins.
there is no overlay on that casing.
"doesn't really need the casing" just what do you mean by that?
"but the pinset would be more even if it didn't overlay."
you'd be hard pushed to find a more even pinset.

PS...do you have any idea what you are talking about?
that casing was only incubated for 72 hours,patched at birth and started pinning 6 days after that....it did not have time to overlay.


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Re: what does overlay look like? [Re: Hanky]
    #2124270 - 11/20/03 03:12 AM (13 years, 21 days ago)

Micro should stick to growing mushrooms in theory only.


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