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Need help with bulk substrate
    #21186326 - 01/27/15 12:39 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Hey. I am completely new to this forum so u can call me a noob it won't affend me. If I break any rules just tell me and I will fix it. This is my first time growing and let me tell you I have fallen inlove with the mycelium culture. I started out with 24 half pint jars which are now close to 100 % colonization. I ordered my spores b+ strain and golden teacher. I used the brown rice flour and vermiculite technique before I realized that wbs or rye would be the best. I don't want to do cakes because of the small yield so I would like to bulk my substrate and put into a monotub. I have a few questions before I get started.
1. What can i mix with my fully colonized spawn in my monotub.
2. Do my jars need to be fully colonized to mix them in more substrate. Or can I mix half colonized jars in my mono tub.
3. Do I need to sterilize whatever substrate I am mixing with my spawn? If so how.
4. What are some Different methods and different things to mix with my spawn.
5. What ratio for spawn to substrate to use.
6. What is a easy way to break up the spawn.


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Re: Need help with bulk substrate [Re: Thespiceman1028]
    #21186335 - 01/27/15 12:41 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

1: Coir/Verm
2: Fully colonized always
3: Pasteurize, not sterilize your bulk sub
4: Monotubs work best IMO
5: I like a 1:2 ratio
6: Shred it with a cheese grater for best results


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Re: Need help with bulk substrate [Re: Thespiceman1028]
    #21186355 - 01/27/15 12:45 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Thespiceman1028 said:
Hey. I am completely new to this forum so u can call me a noob it won't affend me. If I break any rules just tell me and I will fix it. This is my first time growing and let me tell you I have fallen inlove with the mycelium culture. I started out with 24 half pint jars which are now close to 100 % colonization. I ordered my spores b+ strain and golden teacher. I used the brown rice flour and vermiculite technique before I realized that wbs or rye would be the best. I don't want to do cakes because of the small yield so I would like to bulk my substrate and put into a monotub. I have a few questions before I get started.
1. What can i mix with my fully colonized spawn in my monotub.
2. Do my jars need to be fully colonized to mix them in more substrate. Or can I mix half colonized jars in my mono tub.
3. Do I need to sterilize whatever substrate I am mixing with my spawn? If so how.
4. What are some Different methods and different things to mix with my spawn.
5. What ratio for spawn to substrate to use.
6. What is a easy way to break up the spawn.




Noob. :P just kidding.

1.- You can mix it with coir or manure... Coir is pretty much noob friendly.

2.- Never mix an uncolonized grain or brow rice flour cake into a bulk substrate, never... always spawn to bulk at full colonization.

3.- Search for a bucket tek for coir, you can sterilize coir or pasteurize both work. Manure should always be properly pasteurized. Don't use a bucket tek with manure...

4.- Just mix it evenly :shrug: and use a monotub :wink:.

5.- 6-10 brf cakes would be a good ratio i think.(for a monotub)

6.- Put your BRF cakes inside sterile ziploc bags and smash them with your hands...

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Re: Need help with bulk substrate [Re: Citric]
    #21186368 - 01/27/15 12:48 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

So coir and verm on bottom then substrate then coir/Vern on top?
Is the coir/verm 50/50. how wet to make substrate and how much room on top of my tray.
Also do I need to put a black liner on the bottom of the tray


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Re: Need help with bulk substrate [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #21186382 - 01/27/15 12:52 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Ok and do I put the substrate on bottom then spawn then substrate on top or just mix all together.
Then do I put a top layer with no spawn?


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Re: Need help with bulk substrate [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #21186387 - 01/27/15 12:54 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

And noob question but what the hell is coir.


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Re: Need help with bulk substrate [Re: Thespiceman1028]
    #21186395 - 01/27/15 12:58 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Welcome!

Read these teks, they will answer most of the questions you have, and answer even more questions you didn't even know you wanted to ask.

Spitball Jedi "The Basics"


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Re: Need help with bulk substrate [Re: Thespiceman1028]
    #21186396 - 01/27/15 12:58 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Try editing your post next time :wink:

Mix it together, don't layer it.

Coco coir is reptile bedding.  Can find it at pet shops.  Not 50/50 no.  1 brick and 1 quart of vermiculite.


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Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 **
Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest
Cup O' Shrooms
Magash:  I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers :whack:
Hyphae:  Yes  "Loss of moisture from the substrate"  is not a casing trigger.  :cuckoo:

My final Grow!

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Re: Need help with bulk substrate [Re: Thespiceman1028]
    #21186413 - 01/27/15 01:01 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Buy Coir in the pet store. Google coconut coir.

Up at the top of this page click search posts. You need to use it often.

Search for damion50/50 bucket Tek.  Damion50/50 is another cultivator. 

Search for bulk substrate Tek.  Frank does a good Tek I do not remember the exact title. 12 steps to shrooms?

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Re: Need help with bulk substrate [Re: Citric]
    #21186438 - 01/27/15 01:08 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Ok so I get coco coir verm and mix it all together with my spawn? Then do I put a layer on top without the spawn mixed in? Also do I line my mono tub with a liner of some sort?
Thanks for the help everyone yall are awesome


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Re: Need help with bulk substrate [Re: Thespiceman1028]
    #21186454 - 01/27/15 01:13 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

And can someone give me a tek on pasturizing my substrate


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Re: Need help with bulk substrate [Re: Thespiceman1028]
    #21186467 - 01/27/15 01:16 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

UTSF :n00bslayer:


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Re: Need help with bulk substrate [Re: Citric]
    #21186499 - 01/27/15 01:25 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Citric said:
Try editing your post next time :wink:





You also need to do some of your own research.  We're here to help, but not hold your hand.


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Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 **
Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest
Cup O' Shrooms
Magash:  I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers :whack:
Hyphae:  Yes  "Loss of moisture from the substrate"  is not a casing trigger.  :cuckoo:

My final Grow!

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Re: Need help with bulk substrate [Re: Citric]
    #21186546 - 01/27/15 01:37 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

The "How Frank gets shit done"threads will answer all those questions.


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Re: Need help with bulk substrate [Re: Citric]
    #21187122 - 01/27/15 03:26 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I posted the other thread because after I mix the spawn and substrate do I put a casing layer on top? Before or after colonization of the monotub. I understand you told me to pix it all together. But am confused whether I need to put a top casing layer


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Re: Need help with bulk substrate [Re: Thespiceman1028]
    #21187334 - 01/27/15 04:15 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Bulk does not need a casing.


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Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 **
Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest
Cup O' Shrooms
Magash:  I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers :whack:
Hyphae:  Yes  "Loss of moisture from the substrate"  is not a casing trigger.  :cuckoo:

My final Grow!

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