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Psychedelic Mindset = Actual Consciousness? * 1
    #21159748 - 01/21/15 08:34 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Hey Everyone, through my many experiences with Psilocybin and LSD I have started to notice significant and positive changes within my life. I feel as if I am a lot more clear headed and I have a better understanding of how everything works. My experiences have been so profound that almost everyday I question the psychedelic experience and what it means. I was raised under islam but never really believed in the religion, but psychedelics have opened me up to reading the Quran. After reading the book I developed my own opinions on what the psychedelic experience is. In the Quran it states that everything in nature is under the rule of "god" except for human beings because we have our minds the counter the rule of "god". From this I have interpreted "god" to not be a man with a beard who judges us in the end, but instead "god" is a universal consciousness that all life is connected to. Us being humans get distracted from this consciousness that is within us by all the things that our modern society has to offer. I feel that psychedelic drugs connect us to the consciousness that is within us and we receive the message of "god".We then start to realize that your everyday life is not important and that we are all connected and I believe these feelings are us reverting to our original selves. Personally while tripping I always feel primitive and see myself no greater than any living thing. This also applies to meditation, with meditation we separate our selves from the outside world and clear our minds so we can think clearly, it is basically spending time with our true selves Once we remove all the shit that is fed to us from our brains we will see what we really are. Does anyone have similar views? Does anyone have completely different views? I would love to know. Peace :)


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Re: Psychedelic Mindset = Actual Consciousness? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #21159950 - 01/21/15 09:35 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Why don't you just read your beliefs into Snow White instead? Same sort of fictional offering, but at least in Snow White there's a hot chick.

Seriously though what does some thick book of convoluted statements about nothing in particular have to do with anything these days?


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Re: Psychedelic Mindset = Actual Consciousness? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #21159960 - 01/21/15 09:39 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Bravo :tongue: i certainly have similar views i cant say it any better way.

im curious though about what you said about the quran saying everything under nature is under god except humans?


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Re: Psychedelic Mindset = Actual Consciousness? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #21159984 - 01/21/15 09:50 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

i like what you said about us being no better than any other creature. theres a poem i love by Rumi i forgot how it goes but the part i always recall goes "be pale before the one who made color."


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Re: Psychedelic Mindset = Actual Consciousness? [Re: circastes]
    #21160315 - 01/21/15 11:20 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

You're right it's pretty much the same fiction but I found it pretty interesting that it would explain that everything is under the rule of god because if god is just a consciousness in which everything automatically follows and then that is what natural instinct is. You don't see deer murdering each other like we do. What if within the consciousness that we are all connected to there is pure love and peace and that is what god really is? I just believe that we should incorporate these feelings into our lives in order to be truly happy. I know I got a little off topic but I thought I'd add on to what I was saying earlier lol.


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Re: Psychedelic Mindset = Actual Consciousness? [Re: aura8]
    #21160337 - 01/21/15 11:31 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I'm glad I'm not alone. If I recall properly in the beginning of the Quran it states that every plant and animal are under the rule of god except for humans because we have free will. We are able to escape from our consciousness and pollute are selves because our new developed minds are stronger that "rule of god". I think an example of this would be say.. someone is about to commit their first murder. I'm sure before they commit it there is something in their head telling them not to do it but their separate mind allows them to go through with it. It seems before we make any decisions there is a sub conscious involved. What if this is whats left of our actual full on consciousness? I feel when I am under the influence of a psychedelic my sub conscious takes over and I can think clearly and purely about the situations happening in my life. It is like the cartoon devil and angle on each of our shoulders except the angle is our true consciousness or "god" if you will and the devil is our polluted minds created by society.


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Re: Psychedelic Mindset = Actual Consciousness? [Re: aura8]
    #21160345 - 01/21/15 11:34 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Also when ever I trip my thoughts seem to have an ancient wisdom type of vibe to them. Maybe I feel this because this consciousness that we are a part of is millions of years old and has evolved to learn the ways of the world through out millions of year of life and existence?


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Re: Psychedelic Mindset = Actual Consciousness? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #21161087 - 01/22/15 04:32 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Keep tripping, keep reading and you will go far. Psychedelics let you read the quran for what it is and not for what it is not. Most people read the quran for what it is not and then you end up with "some thick book of convoluted statements about nothing in particular". If you think "it's pretty much the same fiction" then you have two paths laid out in front of you. One path is to cry tears in this life and another path is to cry once it is too late. Tears can be happy tears, blissful tears, tears of sadness, tears of loss, tears of gratitude. Let's see where you go from here :smile:

Psychedelics will show you the deep symbology and meaning behind the book. I'd recommend using the Quran Corpus to actually break down verses word by word and study each grammatically with the full flavoured nuances. From the left hand sidebar you can click "Word by word" to get a breakdown of the verse, you can click "translation" to get a complete verse.

Careful study will reveal that it is a very decisive book. And something to be taken very, very seriously but most people unfortunately do not yet understand.

Psychedelics connect you to the same Consciousness, "Allah" or The God, or The Light (Quran 24:35). If you examine the attributes of this "Allah" in the quran you will find them to be seamless and self-referential, all such attributes point to the One. Using psychedelics you can probe within yourself and within your Self, you can probe at the undying nature within. If you seek, the answer will be found. Knock, and the door shall be opened. It's the very same door that all adherents of all faiths are invited to knock upon. And the door is always opened for those who desire to see.

Have a read through of this link maybe. I found it to be quite illumining.
Awareness of the Void
If all that you know or experience is Consciousness, then you too, at least for argument’s sake, are Consciousness. Your Consciousness is not limited by body, mind, world, time or space; all these occur within your Consciousness as objects of that Consciousness.


I would also advise you to learn about Kundalini. This is a primal force within mankind that has potential to awaken and cause a profound psychospiritual transformation. Upon completion, one gleams enlightenment/fana and feels God-presence continually.


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"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

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Re: Psychedelic Mindset = Actual Consciousness? [Re: crkhd]
    #21161158 - 01/22/15 05:22 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Good post :thumbup:


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Re: Psychedelic Mindset = Actual Consciousness? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #21162265 - 01/22/15 10:53 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

free will is fascinating to think about. psychedelics are a good thing for us in that respect. they help us get in touch with that vision of inspiration, the ineffable. or perhaps whatever you feel like doing. but i like that, i havent had much initiative to read the Qur'an but i love the bhagavad gita and even the poetic edda.


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Re: Psychedelic Mindset = Actual Consciousness? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #21162377 - 01/22/15 10:59 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

i always notice that vibe too. i find myself surrendering to it recently like my own thoughts are not even mine. it didnt used to be this way


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Re: Psychedelic Mindset = Actual Consciousness? [Re: crkhd]
    #21183375 - 01/26/15 08:50 PM (9 years, 29 days ago)

You make a great point I will look deeper into the Quran. It may take a couple of times for me to truly understand what message is inside the book but i'll get it. I also took a look at the awareness of the void and found it to be extremely interesting. I felt as if I was the only one who thought this way. Since you gave me some insight I look forward to looking into Kundalini.


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Re: Psychedelic Mindset = Actual Consciousness? [Re: aura8]
    #21183417 - 01/26/15 08:55 PM (9 years, 29 days ago)

It is very fascinating. I'm glad i'm not the only one on this boat. I haven't read thebhagavad gita and the poetic edda but I plan on it now since you brought it up. Will be posting soon. I also tried mescaline a few days ago btw and the ancient teaching vibe was stronger than it has ever been  :peyotespectrum:  :peyotespectrum:  :peyotespectrum:  :peyotespectrum:  :peyotespectrum:


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Re: Psychedelic Mindset = Actual Consciousness? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #21185097 - 01/27/15 06:43 AM (9 years, 28 days ago)

Honestly all religions are just different ways to explain the same experience twisted by charismatic men for their own gain. :shrug: 

This sounds like the very best of Crowley.  He was known in his time as "The most Evil Man in the World!". :lol:  People are funny creatures.


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Re: Psychedelic Mindset = Actual Consciousness? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #21186406 - 01/27/15 01:00 PM (9 years, 28 days ago)

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You make a great point I will look deeper into the Quran. It may take a couple of times for me to truly understand what message is inside the book but i'll get it.





Thats a great attitude to have, although be open to the possibility you might never get it, or at least when you think you do there might be a deeper understanding you haven't gotten yet. That is my experience with life and spirit, the highest state is one of unknowing, not knowledge.

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I also took a look at the awareness of the void and found it to be extremely interesting. I felt as if I was the only one who thought this way. Since you gave me some insight I look forward to looking into Kundalini.




Kundalani is certainly worth looking into IMO. I recommend the teachings of Jan Essman. You can receive shaktipat for free on his website. Shaktipat is a transmission of spiritual energy designed to awaken your kundalani.


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Re: Psychedelic Mindset = Actual Consciousness? [Re: Deviate]
    #21186434 - 01/27/15 01:08 PM (9 years, 28 days ago)

OP, meditation is more than thinking clearly, it is a gateway to enlightenment. Jesus was quoted as saying "the kingdom of heaven is within you" it is also spoken this way in the Bhagavad Gita, which I recommend giving a read :thumbup:


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