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Alwaysanoob
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Cakes Not Fruiting
#21177785 - 01/26/15 05:17 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Today is day 14 in the SGFC.

The cakes are in a SGFC built to spec with 5" of perlite. Elevated 4", away from any wall. Fresh perlite. The jars consolidated at least a week. 3 of the 10 jars had pins. Only one pin survived the dunk. My first cakes pinned on day 8. Nothing has changed since my first grow.
These are 1/4 pint jars stacked after the dunk and roll. I wonder if the verm between the stacked cakes could be absorbing too much water during misting. It is the only think I can think of besides the vagaries of MS. I am not sure if in the last few days the myc has started growing through the verm, or if just enough verm has fell off that it looks that way.
This is only my second grow so I am anxious. I had expected pins before this.
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TheBoomking
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yeah maybe since theyre stacked they went back into veg just to "fuse" together for a few days before they go into fruiting 
This is why I didn't like the PF tek, you could do everything perfect and still be waiting a week or two and then your freaking out like, holy cow did all the moisture evaporate out and the cakes dried? do i have to rehydrate my perlite? and if your using a ms its like double fuckery.
regardless everything looks good man 
I think soon enough you'll be seeing some more fruits  
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What strain?
14 days in an FC is a while. Do you know how to check if your holes are doing their job? Take your mister and spray the walls. Come back in 4 hours and most of the water around the holes should be clearing up. If you see water hanging around a specific hole that means you're not getting enough FAE.
Do you mist your perlite direclty?
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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: taGyo]
#21178114 - 01/26/15 08:40 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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How the hell are ppl still recommending cakes? A monotub is easier and more efficient. I wasted a lot of my time doing cake. I'm just making some random sub bulk cake for fun to put in my SGFC now. I think I'm gonna sell my SGFC next month
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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: mcsuperd]
#21178120 - 01/26/15 08:40 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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No one recommends SGFCs,
They're just the first thing you should probably do lol. Some people don't need what bulk produces.
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Edited by taGyo (01/26/15 08:41 AM)
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Alwaysanoob
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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: taGyo]
#21178163 - 01/26/15 08:53 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I use a good mister that always winds up spraying the walls. I try to aim more at the perlite than the cakes, but the cakes get well misted. The walls dry up within 4 hours. The perlite is moist. I added a few cups of water a couple of days ago. It looks like most drained out the bottom.
I ordered PE but the syringe was labeled B+ PExxxxx. The x's were numbers.
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taGyo
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What strain? Not PE right?
Wait it out, it sounds like you have a better SGFC then me an I always see fruits. When you stack them the myc is probably interacting with the other myc.
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I'm actually going to make a new SGFC soon to fruit little novelty things in. I have a GH, but don't want to set it up because I have to buy a humidifier, make room, have energy, etc...lol.
Cakes aren't a waste of time. They really help noobs get down the basics of cultivation and teaches the life cycle of mushrooms without having to go out and buy a PC, grains, agar, and so on. It's a way to get your feet wet and see if you want to continue forward with this hobby. It's not for everybody.
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I'm gonna show you pics of what I'm fruiting in Flabber,
Just need to do some more research on fruiting conditions of cubes but so far it's working out
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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: taGyo]
#21178191 - 01/26/15 09:02 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I assume the strain is B+.
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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: taGyo]
#21178199 - 01/26/15 09:05 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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taGyo said: I'm gonna show you pics of what I'm fruiting in Flabber,
Just need to do some more research on fruiting conditions of cubes but so far it's working out 
Hook it up
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taGyo
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Weird.
Definitely just give it more time. I have a GT cake that took 14 days to start its SECOND flush (Which is REALLY weird). At 14 days though it's weird you don't see anything.
Try to pick up one of the 1/4 pints. Is it attached to teh cake underneath it? Don't be too rough though.
@Flabber,
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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: taGyo]
#21178232 - 01/26/15 09:15 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I picked up a couple of cakes yesterday to see if they felt light. In my limited experience they did not. I carefully lifted on the top cake of one stack and the bottom cake came up with it. I do not know how firmly they are attached though. This is the only time that I have touched the cakes.
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taGyo
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Then my assumption was correct,
I'd just wait it out.
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Quote:
mcsuperd said: How the hell are ppl still recommending cakes? A monotub is easier and more efficient. I wasted a lot of my time doing cake. I'm just making some random sub bulk cake for fun to put in my SGFC now. I think I'm gonna sell my SGFC next month
Ill give you 1 dollar for it but you gotta pay for shipping 
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wowimflabbergasted said: Cakes aren't a waste of time. They really help noobs get down the basics of cultivation and teaches the life cycle of mushrooms without having to go out and buy a PC, grains, agar, and so on. It's a way to get your feet wet and see if you want to continue forward with this hobby. It's not for everybody.
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taGyo
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People love to diss cakes but they're great for learning and if you can make it work you can pull 10 grams dry a cake. That's more then enough for me and my girl (Multiplied by 3 or 4 )
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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: taGyo]
#21178721 - 01/26/15 11:19 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Heh...no hate on the cake 
Fahtster's Cakes

Lightinguy4's Cakes
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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: taGyo]
#21197726 - 01/29/15 04:17 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Does anyone have any experience with waterlogged cakes?
I have been misting/fanning 2 to 3 times a day. I was misting heavily around 6am and 4pm, mostly hitting the perlite and walls but still soaking the cakes. If I was around I would give a lighter misting at 8 or 9pm.
On day 15 I picked up a cake and it still felt heavy. I did a lot of searching for waterlogged cakes. I did not think mine were but I do not know what else it could be.
The perlite was still moist but I pulled the cakes out, trimmed the foil into a circle barely larger than the cake, and very heavily misted the perlite. I put the cakes back in and did not give them their evening mist. On day 16 I did not do a morning mist and lightly misted once in the evening. Today I gave a light morning and after work mist.
I have still seen no change from the above pictures. I will give them another week. I am moving next weekend. If they get pins before then I will leave the FC and drop by a couple times a day. If no pins before I move I will just toss the cakes.
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