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Death Penalty for the Willfully Ignorant
    #21176552 - 01/25/15 08:54 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

If someone won't vaccinate themselves or their children out of generalized fears, and will not look into readily available science on the matter... they ought to get the death penalty.

If someone wants to ban GMO foods because they are worried about such and such, without looking into the science... they ought to get the death penalty.

If a person wants to maintain the war on drugs despite overwhelming statistical evidence of its counterproductivity... they ought to get the death penalty.


There are plenty more where that came from. The willfully ignorant are some of the most infuriating people in the world. They hide behind suspicion, fear of large organizations like science and government, and seek a return to old ways because they never knew what the old ways were really like anyway. People like this stand in the way of science and reason, and our hopes that the best traits of humanity might one day help us to live in a better world. Fuck these people. It sure wouldn't shock my conscience if there were a new kind of Spanish Inquisition. Only instead of making people profess their faith in God, they would have to understand the scientific method and the fundamentals of reasonable thought and discussion.

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Re: Death Penalty for the Willfully Ignorant [Re: xFrockx] * 3
    #21176627 - 01/25/15 09:11 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Fuck your rant & Fuck vaccinations for that matter, all hail science which shows simpler mechanisms for defeating viruses instead of your old fashioned outdated approach of incorporating it into your body. You can't just come in here and vote to kill everybody based on knowledge that, in 100 years, will most likely not be used, and looked back on as foolish.

If you would so easily wish death on someone based off your antiquated scientific approach to medicine, then i would claim that you are no different then an inquisition in attempt to gain momentum for your belief in such erroneous things.



Ever heard of ORP? oxidative reductive potential? you should look it up, there is a mountain of scientific evidence showing this method described in the link i provided, that is not just a cure for malaria but tons of other viruses that you are currently vaccinated for. Also, there are no preservatives (with mercury) or potential links to autism with this method. The same can not hold up with the history of vaccines. Have you imposed a death sentence on your self with your silly logic? :shrug:

http://www.nvic.org/NVIC-Vaccine-News/April-2013/CDC-Reports-1-in-50-American-Children-Diagnosed-wi.aspx
This was in 2013^^^

http://www.inhabitots.com/mit-scientist-links-autism-to-monsantos-roundup-and-predicts-half-of-u-s-children-will-be-autistic-by-2025/
This is more recent^^^

And the latter article discusses GMO glyphosate on gut bacteria and how it causes autism. The author is from MIT and For over three decades, Stephanie Seneff, PhD, has researched biology and technology, over the years publishing over 170 scholarly peer-reviewed articles. In recent years she has concentrated on the relationship between nutrition and health, tackling such topics as Alzheimer’s, autism, and cardiovascular diseases, as well as the impact of nutritional deficiencies and environmental toxins on human health.

Wtf do you know about anything frock? Lets see that relevant PhD! And your published work on the subject you so adamantly defend for that matter :facepalm3:

Edited by treesniper119 (01/25/15 09:19 PM)

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Re: Death Penalty for the Willfully Ignorant [Re: treesniper119]
    #21176651 - 01/25/15 09:16 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

"Fuck your rant & Fuck vaccinations for that matter, all hail science which shows simpler mechanisms for defeating viruses instead of your old fashioned outdated approach of incorporating it into your body. You can't just come in here and vote to kill everybody based on knowledge that, in 100 years, will most likely not be used, and looked back on as foolish."

If lemmings could talk, this would likely be how they would tell everyone to follow them off the cliff.

No one is arguing that we shouldn't find better ways to do things, the problem is that your "alternatives" are bullshit, plain and simple. There is no "simpler" way to get rid of measles, smallpox, and polio. Millions upon millions of people have received vaccines, and any claims of harm done by them are paranoid at best. The small number of documented adverse reactions pale in comparison to the alternative, and are also far overblown by jabbering morons who fear what they do not know.

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Re: Death Penalty for the Willfully Ignorant [Re: xFrockx]
    #21176663 - 01/25/15 09:18 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Oh, and one more thing "potential links to autism with this method"

THERE IS NO POTENTIAL LINK TO AUTISM WITH VACCINES. IT WAS ONE STUDY WITH 12 PARTICIPANTS, ONLY 7 OF WHOM HAD AUTISM, WHICH HAS SINCE BEEN RESCINDED, AND REPEATEDLY SHOWN WITH MILLION-PERSON STUDIES THAT THERE IS NO LINK. JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS SUGGESTED OVER AND OVER AGAIN DOES NOT MAKE IT PLAUSIBLE.

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Re: Death Penalty for the Willfully Ignorant [Re: xFrockx]
    #21176667 - 01/25/15 09:20 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Big lettered Lemmings lmfao....

Ever heard of ORP? oxidative reductive potential? you should look it up, there is a mountain of scientific evidence showing this method described in the link i provided, that is not just a cure for malaria but tons of other viruses that you are currently vaccinated for. Also, there are no preservatives (with mercury) or potential links to autism with this method. The same can not hold up with the history of vaccines. Have you imposed a death sentence on your self with your silly logic? :shrug:

http://www.nvic.org/NVIC-Vaccine-News/April-2013/CDC-Reports-1-in-50-American-Children-Diagnosed-wi.aspx
This was in 2013^^^

http://www.inhabitots.com/mit-scientist-links-autism-to-monsantos-roundup-and-predicts-half-of-u-s-children-will-be-autistic-by-2025/
This is more recent^^^

And the latter article discusses GMO glyphosate on gut bacteria and how it causes autism. The author is from MIT and For over three decades, Stephanie Seneff, PhD, has researched biology and technology, over the years publishing over 170 scholarly peer-reviewed articles. In recent years she has concentrated on the relationship between nutrition and health, tackling such topics as Alzheimer’s, autism, and cardiovascular diseases, as well as the impact of nutritional deficiencies and environmental toxins on human health.

Wtf do you know about anything frock? Lets see that relevant PhD! And your peer reviewed published work on the subject you so adamantly defend for that matter :facepalm3:

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Re: Death Penalty for the Willfully Ignorant [Re: xFrockx] * 6
    #21176678 - 01/25/15 09:23 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

"I believe A... if someone else believes B, they should die"

:knowwhatnevermind:

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Re: Death Penalty for the Willfully Ignorant [Re: xFrockx] * 2
    #21176681 - 01/25/15 09:24 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

First thing I thought when I read this was "So you want Eugenics?". While I agree people can be infuriating, we don't need anymore violence in this world.


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Don't make me get the FemNazis involved guys.

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Re: Death Penalty for the Willfully Ignorant [Re: Drumdude27]
    #21176698 - 01/25/15 09:27 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

The very title of this Topic "Death Penalty for the Willfully Ignorant" pot meet kettle :rolleyes:

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Re: Death Penalty for the Willfully Ignorant [Re: treesniper119]
    #21176706 - 01/25/15 09:30 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

:braindamage:

The NVIC is not a scientific organization, it is an anti-vaccine lobby group. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Vaccine_Information_Center


The second link is total fabrication. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tamar-haspel/condemning-monsanto-with-_b_3162694.html

"And the latter article discusses GMO glyphosate on gut bacteria and how it causes autism."

Autism is most likely at least in part, a genetic disorder unrelated to neonatal or early childhood care. If you look up legitimate science on the matter, this is where it is going. Or you can look up crackpots, the choice is yours.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_autism



"Wtf do you know about anything frock? Lets see that relevant PhD! And your published work on the subject you so adamantly defend for that matter "

I don't need to be a fucking scientist to be able to read and critically evaluate research. This is why we have scientists. Moronic argument. As if I have to be a virtuoso piano player to appreciate Beethoven, or that I need to be a world class chef to appreciate well-made food.

And seriously, miracle mineral supplement? Are you freakin kidding me? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement

You want to talk about money grubbing heathcare systems, they have nothing on these quacks.

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Re: Death Penalty for the Willfully Ignorant [Re: Chakra Shock]
    #21176710 - 01/25/15 09:30 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I am not advocating belief, I am advocating the scientific method and reason.

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Re: Death Penalty for the Willfully Ignorant [Re: Drumdude27]
    #21176716 - 01/25/15 09:31 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

No, I don't want to breed only certain people purposely. I just want stupid people to stop existing.

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Re: Death Penalty for the Willfully Ignorant [Re: xFrockx]
    #21176730 - 01/25/15 09:35 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

In my first reply i said "all hail science which shows simpler mechanisms for defeating viruses instead of your old fashioned outdated approach of incorporating it into your body".
Ever heard of ORP? oxidative reductive potential? you should look it up, there is a mountain of scientific evidence showing this method described in the link i provided, that is not just a cure for malaria but tons of other viruses that you are currently vaccinated for...



You still haven't addressed the meat and potatoes of your argument, when presented with damning evidence that destroys your position, you seem to just gloss over it in favor of minor details^^^(watch the video)


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Re: Death Penalty for the Willfully Ignorant [Re: treesniper119]
    #21176740 - 01/25/15 09:38 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Glossing over Miracle Mineral Supplement? Get real, it isn't even worth responding to. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement

"MMS is falsely promoted as a cure for HIV, malaria, hepatitis viruses, the H1N1 flu virus, common colds, autism, acne, cancer, and much more. There have been no clinical trials to test these claims, which come only from anecdotal reports and Humble's book.[4][5] In January 2010, The Sydney Morning Herald reported that one vendor admitted that they do not repeat any of Humble's claims in writing to circumvent regulations against using it as a medicine.[6] Sellers sometimes describe MMS as a water purifier so as to circumvent medical regulations.[7] The International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies rejected "in the strongest terms" reports by promoters of MMS that they had used the product to fight malaria.[8]

Sodium chlorite, the main constituent of MMS, is a toxic chemical[9][10] that can cause acute renal failure[11] if ingested. Small amounts of about 1 gram can be expected to cause nausea, vomiting and even life-threatening hemolysis in persons who are deficient in glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase. When citric acid or other food acid is used to "activate" MMS as described in its instructions,[12] the mixture produces an aqueous solution containing chlorine dioxide, a toxin and a potent oxidizing agent used in the treatment of water and in bleaching.[1] The United States Environmental Protection Agency has set a maximum level of 0.8 mg/L for chlorine dioxide in drinking water.[13] Naren Gunja, director of the New South Wales Poisons Information Centre, has stated that using the product is "a bit like drinking concentrated bleach" and that users have displayed symptoms consistent with corrosive injuries, such as vomiting, stomach pains, and diarrhea.[14]"


They are snake oil salesmen.

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Re: Death Penalty for the Willfully Ignorant [Re: xFrockx]
    #21176751 - 01/25/15 09:40 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

No Frock....:spank:
Clearly, you still didn't watch the video, mixing sodium chlorite with vitamin C and collecting the off gas (chlorine dioxide) and then mixing that, into water, is the cure. It is entirely based on the ORP of viruses and healthy cells. Again, you have glossed over the details and regurgitated cherry picked fda drug lobby rhetoric, that is not relevant to the position i have presented.

Edited by treesniper119 (01/25/15 09:45 PM)

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Re: Death Penalty for the Willfully Ignorant [Re: xFrockx]
    #21176777 - 01/25/15 09:46 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I disagree with the autism thing being a inevitable genetic thing . Oxidative stress could be mutagenic and cause autism . Every illness is going to show itself in DNA . Science is not wrong . The truth about most health however is suppressed or just lied about . Look up bill gates on population control.


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Re: Death Penalty for the Willfully Ignorant [Re: xFrockx]
    #21176782 - 01/25/15 09:47 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

60% of the water companies in the USA are now using chlorine dioxide to purify drinking water. Chances are very high that if you believe that MMS (again, a few drops of Chlorine dioxide heavily diluted in water) is a bleach, then frock you are now probably drinking "bleach" in your own home...:shrug:

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Re: Death Penalty for the Willfully Ignorant [Re: treesniper119]
    #21176794 - 01/25/15 09:48 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

"Clearly, you still didn't watch the video, mixing sodium chlorite with vitamin C and collecting the off gas (chlorine dioxide) and then mixing that, into water, is the cure"

Wow. Clearly you know nothing about water treatment. Chlorine dioxide is already used in water treatment. It doesn't cure malaria, however it would sterilize water and kill mosquito larvae.


Did you fall asleep in science class or what? You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, it is actually ridiculous.

You talk like it is a new thing too... it has been used since the 40s.

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    #21176803 - 01/25/15 09:50 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

We must have just posted at the same time, fortunately i was a lil faster at saying what you were gonna say, & you were a second too late with your insults (see my previous post, right before yours lol)^^

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Re: Death Penalty for the Willfully Ignorant [Re: treesniper119]
    #21176806 - 01/25/15 09:52 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

But it doesn't change the fact that you are sill posting nonsense. A 70 year old method of water treatment hasn't cured autism or malaria yet. (Nor has it reduced the need for vaccines)

It's like you saw some presentation at a Hampton Inn and all of a sudden you've got 10 referrals and consider yourself an expert.

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Re: Death Penalty for the Willfully Ignorant [Re: treesniper119]
    #21176815 - 01/25/15 09:54 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

regardless, it is seen as a water purifier and within published journals it is known to have the ability to destroy viruses through ORP while leaving healthy cells in tact.
You cant play both sides flip flop frock.
First you blast it for being a toxic bleach, then you deny the reason why its being used as a purifier in the first place...
Then you dodge the link i provided, with red cross and scientific members of many communities across the globe proving this...
The video i provided, uses this method in certain dosages, and it has been proven to cure malaria.

Scientific evidence also shows that this same method of ORP can destroy a multitude of viruses that your are vaccinated for.

That is my position.

Your position is "kill everyone who doesnt think like me"

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