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Dr. Delban
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San Pedro alcohol extraction using 95% ethanol >>2ND ATTEMPT<<
#21175108 - 01/25/15 02:34 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for looking!
This is my second ethanol extraction of mescaline from Trichocereus Pachanoi, aka San Pedro cactus.
My previous thread: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20818235
Last time I got scammed by a seller who supplied me with a non-potent material. This was a scam that happened to me in a row - previous scam was on the Peruvianus chips from a different seller. Thankfully I have received refunds on both occasions. But the amount of time I have Wasted is priceless. However, practising an ethanol extraction on a non-potent material helped me to learn new skills anyway.
This time I have ordered 224g powdered T. Pachanoi directly from Peru. I've had my eye on this particular source for a long while, but never bought from them until now. According to one of shroomery users who extracted from this material - it is potent.

Here I go!
I am using 95% ethanol which is consumable and designed for preparation of home made liquors and cocktails, baking etc.
 I am waiting for a bigger syringe to arrive by post. My local "pharmacy" (leading chain) is so crap they don't even have a selection of different syringes - only flimsy 5ml ones.
I have measured 50g of powder and 100ml of alcohol.
 
First thing I have noticed is that this material is lighter - the 50g I have measured for extraction looks like 100g of the scam material I used previously. I had to use a bigger jar due to this. Also, it is ground very finely, as compared to coarse ground Equadorian material used in my previous thread.
One tablespoon weights around 10 grams

Next time I will pour the alcohol in first, and then throw the powder in. This should prevent the powder from sticking to the bottom of the jar. I liked the bubbling which occurred though:

Because this Pedro is very finely ground, it will aid extraction process but it will make it more difficult to separate the layer of liquid. This is how little it settled within an hour:

I am going to post all updates at the top of the thread.
================================ >>>>>> UPDATE 1 <<<<<< ================================
After letting it settle for 15 hours, I have pulled 50ml of liquid. It is interesting how half of the alcohol I used got trapped in the powder.
    
Once all pulls are complete, I will drain all remaining mess through a coffee filter to minimize loss of desired substances.
This is the second cycle extraction:
 I've been shaking it ridiculously vigorously all morning and a little bit in the evening. It has a very dark color, hardly any light can pass through it. I am going to shake it even more and then let it settle for 20 hours and pull the liquid.
================================ >>>>>> UPDATE 2 <<<<<< ================================
Pulled around 100ml today, now doing third cycle extraction with 50ml of alcohol. Once this one is done, I will do two more pulls and then start evapping.
This is how dark the liquid from 2nd pull was:
 
================================ >>>>>> UPDATE 2 <<<<<< ================================
Third pull (used 50ml of ethanol):

Fourth pull (again used 50ml of ethanol):

I have collected a total of around 210ml of extract, which looked pretty damn dark:
 
I poured it onto a pyrex dish on Friday morning. I placed it next to radiator, opened all windows and left the house. This is what it looked like on Friday:

And this is what it looks like today:

You can see that it still hasn't dried out fully. I think it was too cold for it to dry with all windows open.
I have noticed plenty of crystal looking needles. You can see them in these pics:
 
Are these crystals of mescaline or just a coincidence/funky shape?
I want to wash this extract with vinegar. I have read some washing/salting teks which involved 5% vinegar. I have seen some 10% vinegar in a local shop. Would a 10% vinegar be good? What difference will it make to use 5% instead of 10% ?
Edited by Dr. Delban (02/02/15 06:38 AM)
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Re: San Pedro alcohol extraction using 95% ethanol >>2ND ATTEMPT<< [Re: Dr. Delban]
#21175131 - 01/25/15 02:40 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: San Pedro alcohol extraction using 95% ethanol >>2ND ATTEMPT<< [Re: sof4r0ckeRs1984] 1
#21175148 - 01/25/15 02:45 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: San Pedro alcohol extraction using 95% ethanol >>2ND ATTEMPT<< [Re: Aser]
#21175200 - 01/25/15 02:57 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Joining the new thread.
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Re: San Pedro alcohol extraction using 95% ethanol >>2ND ATTEMPT<< [Re: Scrimshaw]
#21175328 - 01/25/15 03:34 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: San Pedro alcohol extraction using 95% ethanol >>2ND ATTEMPT<< [Re: Dr. Delban]
#21176137 - 01/25/15 07:08 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Round 2, coming up!
Good luck Dr. D
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Re: San Pedro alcohol extraction using 95% ethanol >>2ND ATTEMPT<< [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21176419 - 01/25/15 08:15 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: San Pedro alcohol extraction using 95% ethanol >>2ND ATTEMPT<< [Re: cowsRmeat]
#21176466 - 01/25/15 08:28 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: San Pedro alcohol extraction using 95% ethanol >>2ND ATTEMPT<< [Re: SuperFly]
#21200256 - 01/30/15 05:37 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Updates
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Re: San Pedro alcohol extraction using 95% ethanol >>2ND ATTEMPT<< [Re: Ozzy_shroomer]
#21200708 - 01/30/15 09:04 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ozzy_shroomer said: Updates 
I'm evapping. Took some pics but no time to upload.
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Re: San Pedro alcohol extraction using 95% ethanol >>2ND ATTEMPT<< [Re: Dr. Delban]
#21201384 - 01/30/15 11:16 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looking forward to the results
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Re: San Pedro alcohol extraction using 95% ethanol >>2ND ATTEMPT<< [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#21201442 - 01/30/15 11:27 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: San Pedro alcohol extraction using 95% ethanol >>2ND ATTEMPT<< [Re: 4HO-DMT] 1
#21201478 - 01/30/15 11:31 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I tell you What! I hope you have good luck!
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Re: San Pedro alcohol extraction using 95% ethanol >>2ND ATTEMPT<< [Re: Dr. Delban]
#21202414 - 01/30/15 01:19 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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How do you evaporate the alcohol. I have my cuttings in the freezer I heard that causes the mescaline to be pushed to d.green layer.
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Re: San Pedro alcohol extraction using 95% ethanol >>2ND ATTEMPT<< [Re: AbstractFuture] 1
#21202421 - 01/30/15 01:21 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Damn, that is one clean cut!
What did you use, a Samuari sword?
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Re: San Pedro alcohol extraction using 95% ethanol >>2ND ATTEMPT<< [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21202541 - 01/30/15 01:44 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Can you take fresh cuttings chopped into pieces and put them in a blender with alcohol, then evaporate the alcohol and strain the mixture?
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Re: San Pedro alcohol extraction using 95% ethanol >>2ND ATTEMPT<< [Re: leery11] 1
#21202735 - 01/30/15 02:21 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sure, but you strain the mixture first then evaporate.
But stick with tea's leery, it WILL work with a fresh cutting, you have my word
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Re: San Pedro alcohol extraction using 95% ethanol >>2ND ATTEMPT<< [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#21203193 - 01/30/15 04:08 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Sure, but you strain the mixture first then evaporate.
But stick with tea's leery, it WILL work with a fresh cutting, you have my word 
I know, I've tripped nicely 3 times off cutting tea!
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Re: San Pedro alcohol extraction using 95% ethanol >>2ND ATTEMPT<< [Re: leery11] 1
#21203768 - 01/30/15 06:10 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Leery,
If you order a cutting, put it in a dark place forever. I mean, put it in darkeness on its side until there are roots popping out the skin. This will stress it and supposedly, the stress increases the alkaloid content. Order a few cuts of gesii. After all that, make some tea.
I have used this method and broken through on a 14 inch cutting that I dried and powdered prior to making tea with it. I also used lime juice in the tea. I added a bit for each pull. I had them in darkness for over a year though.
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Re: San Pedro alcohol extraction using 95% ethanol >>2ND ATTEMPT<< [Re: leery11]
#21214736 - 02/02/15 05:41 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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leery11 said: Can you take fresh cuttings chopped into pieces and put them in a blender with alcohol, then evaporate the alcohol and strain the mixture?
You will need a lot of alcohol to extract mescaline from fresh cacti. It will cost you too much. If you have a fresh cactus, I suggest you to boil it in water instead.
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