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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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Re: The term [Re: SeaShrooms]
    #21174632 - 01/25/15 12:27 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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They aren't disproportionately impoverished, there are more white people below the poverty line. I personally blame hip-hop culture, and I think most white criminals are those who have accepted it.




Wrong, again.


http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0104552.html


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/08/28/these-seven-charts-show-the-black-white-economic-gap-hasnt-budged-in-50-years/



Side note: You know what the term 'per capita' means, right?


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Re: The term [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #21174663 - 01/25/15 12:38 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Well I'll be damned, I even checked other sources, you are absolutely right on that one.


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Re: The term [Re: SeaShrooms]
    #21174774 - 01/25/15 01:08 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, thanks.

I'm not arguing that blacks don't commit more crimes, I'm saying that they're doing so because of factors other than the color of their skin.


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Re: The term [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #21174841 - 01/25/15 01:24 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not saying it's skin color, but it's definitely not just being poor, that's a lame excuse...


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Re: The term [Re: SeaShrooms]
    #21174944 - 01/25/15 01:50 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

It's not just being poor, but poverty correlates with crime more than any other factor, so it might be lame, but it's valid.


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Re: The term [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #21174975 - 01/25/15 01:59 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

My problem is all the supposed studies that show violent music/games don't contribute, gotta wonder who funded those...


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Re: The term "white privilege" is racist. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
    #21175159 - 01/25/15 02:47 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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qman said:
"Hell, whites are even arrested less"

I wonder why?    :huxleyfacepalm:




Considering, per capita, whites commit nearly the same number of crimes as blacks, maybe the answer isn't as easy as you wished it was.



Maybe you post a lot of afactual nonsense.


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Re: The term [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #21175181 - 01/25/15 02:52 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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It's not just being poor, but poverty correlates with crime more than any other factor, so it might be lame, but it's valid.



The playing field has been tilted in their favor in regards to educational opportunity and job contracts for 50 years.  They have no one to blame but themselves and their destruction of the family.  Tell me again how that is Whitey's fault.


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Re: The term [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #21175193 - 01/25/15 02:55 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

This is whiteys fault, for not cracking down on this stuff sooner.



http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/22/detroit-man-who-murdered-two-white-teens-declares-/


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Re: The term "white privilege" is racist. [Re: SeaShrooms]
    #21179412 - 01/26/15 02:13 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

This whole thread :doublefacepalm:


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Re: The term "white privilege" is racist. [Re: Smokey420] * 1
    #21179743 - 01/26/15 03:01 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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This whole thread :doublefacepalm:



Response if this thread had been about how blacks are "oppressed":

This whole thread :cool::thumbup:


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Re: The term [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #21180007 - 01/26/15 03:15 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah, thanks.

I'm not arguing that blacks don't commit more crimes, I'm saying that they're doing so because of factors other than the color of their skin.




"I'm saying that they're doing so (committing a massive disproportional amount of crime) because of factors other than the color of their skin."

It's their culture, not the skin.  That's basic commonsense.

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Re: The term [Re: SeaShrooms]
    #21183442 - 01/26/15 08:57 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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My problem is all the supposed studies that show violent music/games don't contribute, gotta wonder who funded those...



Im sure there are studies on this that aren't funded by media companies. There really is no evidence to support music/games contribute to violence, we are living in the most peaceful time in human history, yet we have more extremely violent music and video games than ever before.

Now the culture surrounding a certain form of media however is a very different thing.


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Re: The term [Re: psyconaught]
    #21183794 - 01/26/15 09:37 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I think I actually agree with you, but doesn't electronic media contribute to tropes of gangsta life, thereby feeding that culture.


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Re: The term [Re: SeaShrooms]
    #21183990 - 01/26/15 10:12 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Thats like blaming the loudspeaker for playing nazi propaganda.


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Re: The term [Re: psyconaught]
    #21184224 - 01/26/15 11:17 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think it's that simple, gangsta rap is a part of the lifestyle, like guitars and horrible singing are a part of the hippy lifestyle.


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Re: The term [Re: SeaShrooms]
    #21184364 - 01/26/15 11:43 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I listen to rap from time to time. As well as folk and death metal. None of those genres affect my behavior. Death metal bands usually sing exclusively about cannibalism, gore, and murder, i'm not about to be the next Albert Fish because of it though :shrug:


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Re: The term [Re: SeaShrooms]
    #21185494 - 01/27/15 09:18 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't think it's that simple, gangsta rap is a part of the lifestyle, like guitars and horrible singing are a part of the hippy lifestyle.




"gangsta rap is a part of the lifestyle"

It's a reflection of the culture and lifestyle.

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Re: The term [Re: qman]
    #21185698 - 01/27/15 10:05 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I think the hippie analogy helps prove my point as well. Did the guitar and out of tune singing lead to hippie ideals? No of course not, its just associated with the culture, just like rap is nothing more than a form of musical expression, it attracts a certain group of people no doubt, but its not the cause anymore than guitars cause hippy ideals.


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Re: The term [Re: psyconaught]
    #21186055 - 01/27/15 11:32 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Actually I see your point, so what does this violent culture originate from then? And why are so few whites a part of it?


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