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OfflinePowerPlants
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Is we are one a joke?
    #21174521 - 01/25/15 12:01 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Is saying we are one basically the same as saying there is no we, only me? We being plural, one being singular, doesn't make sense unless it is meant in a transcendental sense or state.

Even then, how could one being experience plural states at the same time without being aware of it? Say God is one being, he partitions his consciousness with boundaries and splits like an atom, how could one awareness experience more than one experience simultaneously without knowing it?

Is it possible

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Re: Is we are one a joke? [Re: PowerPlants] * 1
    #21174578 - 01/25/15 12:14 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

We are One, is probably the single most misunderstood spiritual concept.It doesn't mean that we are the same person, or experiencing exactly the same events.It simply means we are connected to the same super-conscious.Our minds are receivers and the higher our awareness levels reach, the more we can decipher of our greater reality.When we meditate over many years, we can reach the stage of observing ourselves.This observation means that a part of us is "ONE" with everything that is and only a part of our greater being is down here and identified with having a Human experience.Being ONE is like considering a Zen Koan with the deeper meaning, evading the lower levels of consciousness, that 98% of the human race enjoy.

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Re: Is we are one a joke? [Re: gandalfe]
    #21174786 - 01/25/15 01:12 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

i don't think it's a joke, i think it's a literal basic fact & necessary to existence at all. not just a spiritual mumbo jumboey 'we all have the spark of the divine in us' which might be true but just basic physical inter-dependency. don't focus too much on the language, it's just a way to try and communicate it, but it's a nondual thing so language cant actually directly hit it. Think of it like you're the result of all the inputs/causes/effects from the rest of the universe at all the points in time and space that you've occupied, and you're also the 'giver' of outputs/causes/effects that go into making every single 'other' object. in the sense that you cant actually separate things, there are no true partitions, just seems that way because it's a necessary view to do anything more than exist.

everything you are is relative to what everything else is, and dependent on that. if you're 'up' then something else is automatically 'down', they create eachother simultaneously, same with all things you could apply to yourself in defining what/who you are. just take away the idea of partitions and it's easy to see. the sun is always a good example, looking at one aspect of it. the sun sends out light which plants take and turn into plant matter which animals take&turn into a 'higher' configuration which we eat to take&turn it into a human being, unless you're vegetarian but still applies lol. that's the partitioned view, whats really going on is the sun becomes sunlight, which becomes a plant, which becomes an animal, which becomes a human and so on. just expand that to the whole universe. there's no single separate objects or beings doing anything, there's just one big thing happening and changing and flowing.

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Re: Is we are one a joke? *DELETED* [Re: PowerPlants]
    #21175279 - 01/25/15 03:25 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Is we are one a joke? [Re: night_shift]
    #21175475 - 01/25/15 04:14 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Nah PowerPlants, we are not real, you made us up. Thats why we are one. Its only yourself. We were not supposed to tell you ^_^


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OfflinePowerPlants
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Re: Is we are one a joke? [Re: night_shift]
    #21175506 - 01/25/15 04:22 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

No doubt there is interconnectedness between living beings and the Earth, this is quite clear and not what I'm thinking of.

But there are some who have said that it is possible that all lives are an illusive manifestation of a singular omnipotent consciousness. I just wonder how one being could multilocate itself without seeing all the experiences at the same time.

Haha cbub, you mean tell me *again.

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Re: Is we are one a joke? [Re: PowerPlants]
    #21175521 - 01/25/15 04:27 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I honestly think that is the closest viewpoint you can have to truth. Its mostly the omnipotence thing. It is entirely possible you can play every role and have this big show, starring everyone. They say god is omnipotent.
You know the classic paradox - if he is omnipotent, he cannot create a rock heavy enough to be unable to lift it. Sure can.. just need to create time and two versions of himself, easiest thing.


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Re: Is we are one a joke? [Re: cbub]
    #21175532 - 01/25/15 04:29 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

and by create I mean - conjure up inside his mind, no hokus pokus.
And the feeling of existence - the "I am" is exactly the same one you have right now, not only because you are made in his image, but because that is all that is actually real.


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Re: Is we are one a joke? [Re: gandalfe]
    #21186297 - 01/27/15 12:31 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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gandalfe said:
We are One, is probably the single most misunderstood spiritual concept.It doesn't mean that we are the same person, or experiencing exactly the same events.It simply means we are connected to the same super-conscious.Our minds are receivers and the higher our awareness levels reach, the more we can decipher of our greater reality.When we meditate over many years, we can reach the stage of observing ourselves.This observation means that a part of us is "ONE" with everything that is and only a part of our greater being is down here and identified with having a Human experience.Being ONE is like considering a Zen Koan with the deeper meaning, evading the lower levels of consciousness, that 98% of the human race enjoy.





Exactly. Just like how if one monotub is contaminated, it doesn't mean that everyones grows are contaminated. But its all mycelium.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Is we are one a joke? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21186304 - 01/27/15 12:33 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

We are one with the intelligence of the universe but as incarnates on earth we deal with having an ego and decisions, these lives we live are selected before birth and yet within the matrix we still have free will to a certain degree.

It is best to seize this life and use it for enlightenment, meditation each day particularly if a mantra is used can bring our consciousness back hOMe.

Earth is a school and when we graduate from it we can go on to much more cosmic opportunities, Earth is for learning enlightenment or self destruction and absolute annihilation of the soul over many lifetimes of horrible actions , I have so heard from Gurus.


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....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!

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Re: Is we are one a joke? [Re: leery11]
    #21186778 - 01/27/15 02:28 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Just curious as how you know all that to be true?


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Is we are one a joke? [Re: Icelander]
    #21186954 - 01/27/15 02:59 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Well, I've heard it from reputable gurus that I study meditation with, I won't know its true until I reach it lol.

Yes it is a faith issue, but the science of enlightenment does exist, Paramhansa Yogananda brought kriya to the west, I highly recommend his book Autobiography of a Yogi, most amazing book I've ever read! God is a scientific process, quantum physics begins to touch these esoteric and Inner truths....  its a matter of trusting the messenger of course, I haven't been there yet in this life. I have on a few occasions touched the Light though, and been light once, it was nice. :psychsplit:


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....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!

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Re: Is we are one a joke? [Re: leery11]
    #21190562 - 01/28/15 09:43 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Well imo it's not quite fair to state something as truth when you don't really know if it is. :shrug:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Is we are one a joke? [Re: PowerPlants]
    #21190720 - 01/28/15 10:28 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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PowerPlants said:
Is saying we are one basically the same as saying there is no we, only me? We being plural, one being singular, doesn't make sense unless it is meant in a transcendental sense or state.

Even then, how could one being experience plural states at the same time without being aware of it? Say God is one being, he partitions his consciousness with boundaries and splits like an atom, how could one awareness experience more than one experience simultaneously without knowing it?

Is it possible




It's a good question, really the only answer is in abiding in your own consciousness/awareness and then sensing the nature of it yourself, theorizing or thinking 'it's all one' isn't it, you want to come to the place where you're so one with yourself you don't even know it or know anything at all (knowledge requires the idea of two) then that state of peace will predominate your consciousness and you may find it includes all of life

There are experiences that can confirm awareness is simultaniously aware of everything in the universe, it is possible, but don't chase that experience, just be yourself and understand your own awareness and the rest will be revealed


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