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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: yogabunny] * 1
    #19181793 - 11/24/13 08:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Have you ever used heroin?

Yes.

Do you currently use heroin?

No.  Was an IV addict for ~4 years and am now on methadone maintenance.

Are you content with your usage?

In some ways I am glad for the experience of addiction--I learned the limits of my mind and body, and I'd rather live through both extreme highs and lows than never get to experience either.  On the other hand I'm not so happy for how much money I spent on getting high.  I probably could have bought a couple sports cars and a house by now if I'd saved instead of handing them bills over to my dealer.  At least now I am living a stable, happy life without having to worry about getting arrested for possession, damaging my veins with scar tissue, or spending $300+ a day.

What type of heroin do you usually use?

The only type available around here (to the best of my knowledge) is black tar.

What's your preferred ROA?

Started out smoking it, decided to try the needle and never looked back for the next few years.  Towards the end of my run I actually switched back to smoking just because I had no more usable veins.  :lol:

Are you/have you ever been addicted to heroin?

Yes, obviously, but I use methadone instead now.

Have/would you you ever sell your body/prostitute yourself for heroin/money for heroin?

LOL, no.  I've always been able to maintain a functional lifestyle even while slamming daily--I was able to keep getting a weekly paycheck to afford my dope and never really had to worry about stooping that low.


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #21153420 - 01/21/15 12:32 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I just re-read this thread, I am curious as to how some of you guys that posted in here are doing a little over a year later.


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: PLURAL]
    #21156146 - 01/21/15 11:40 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I'm good.  I actually got on suboxone maintenance a few months after I posted here and have been doing that ever since.  I am planning to get fully clean in the early spring because I just can't bring myself to do it in the summertimederp winter.  That shit is going to suck tho.  I can't believe I already got clean once and fucked it up.  It was so hard to do and I just gave up on being clean when my life didn't go perfectly.

I wonder how mello kitty is doing tho.  I could have sworn I saw her around here more recently than a year, but I guess not.  If I remember right she was having a pretty rough time back then, so hopefully she found a better way to cope.


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: PLURAL]
    #21157875 - 01/21/15 03:22 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Treant said:
I just re-read this thread, I am curious as to how some of you guys that posted in here are doing a little over a year later.





My post from a bit over a year ago is still relevant.


Since that post, I've put some oxy up my nose once or twice and have ate some hydrocodone a few times but haven't done any H. This thread bump has actually made me realize how little opiates I've touched over the past two years, not that I ever had a serious problem with them or anything....


....I still enjoy the stuff and almost got some a few weeks ago, but I don't have an itch to dabble with it all that often. I do take around 2.5g to 4.5g of kratom almost every day though, so no doubt the leaf is keeping any appetite that I'd have for something purely opioid in check. Truth be told, if I didn't have kratom in my life I'd still probably be be snorting some oxy or eating hydo a few times a month.






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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21165089 - 01/22/15 09:25 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Thank both of you for updating us.

@moonrock

Good to hear that you're trying to get clean.

Most would think getting over the dopesickness would be the hardest part, it's really not though, the long term mental addiction is worse.


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: openmind]
    #21165205 - 01/22/15 09:52 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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openmind said:
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Treant said:
I just re-read this thread, I am curious as to how some of you guys that posted in here are doing a little over a year later.





My post from a bit over a year ago is still relevant.


Since that post, I've put some oxy up my nose once or twice and have ate some hydrocodone a few times but haven't done any H. This thread bump has actually made me realize how little opiates I've touched over the past two years, not that I ever had a serious problem with them or anything....


....I still enjoy the stuff and almost got some a few weeks ago, but I don't have an itch to dabble with it all that often. I do take around 2.5g to 4.5g of kratom almost every day though, so no doubt the leaf is keeping any appetite that I'd have for something purely opioid in check. Truth be told, if I didn't have kratom in my life I'd still probably be be snorting some oxy or eating hydo a few times a month.






-OM


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isnt daily kratom use worse? Like you still get WD's if you stop right? Im guessing its a bit cheaper though?


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: kakashi68]
    #21167753 - 01/23/15 03:27 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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.......I still enjoy the stuff and almost got some a few weeks ago, but I don't have an itch to dabble with it all that often. I do take around 2.5g to 4.5g of kratom almost every day though, so no doubt the leaf is keeping any appetite that I'd have for something purely opioid in check. Truth be told, if I didn't have kratom in my life I'd still probably be be snorting some oxy or eating hydo a few times a month.






-OM


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isnt daily kratom use worse? Like you still get WD's if you stop right? Im guessing its a bit cheaper though?






Daily kratom use worse than something like daily pharm-opioid use?...nah, no way. Kratom is as benign as cannabis in my eyes.


I have most certainly experienced some symptoms of withdrawal after taking kratom daily for a month or two, but it's relatively mild to nothing at all. It only lasts for about 2 days and mostly consists of lethargy during the day, some trouble getting good/deep sleep at night, aches & pains in my body start to become more pronounced again....but it's all really mild and the times I taper down my intake for 3 or 4 days before stopping the "WD" is virtually non-existent. And actually quitting the leaf isn't hard at all, I have more cravings and difficulty quitting my daily cup or two of coffee than I do my daily teaspoon or two of kratom.

With that said though....I use a relatively small amount of kratom, two teaspoons a day (around 2.5g to 4.5g) and sometimes a third, and I take a break for at least a few days once a month. If one is taking large amounts every single day for months on end and decides to stop completely, yea they're probably going to run into some WD. Even then, I've talked to some folks that have used moderate amounts of kratom daily for years and they said the WD they run into when quitting was very very benign and mild considering how long they've been using the leaf.


I don't look at the leaf as something to totally get "high" and "loaded" on, rather it's just a part of my day like coffee and cannabis is.



Kratom does have action on the opioid receptors but I believe only one of the alkaloids is a full-agonist while the other is a partial-agonist, and there is even an opioid-antagonist in the mix that has a longer half life than the others (if I remember correctly). Because of this, and other factors I'm sure, kratom seems to have a "ceiling effect" where taking more doesn't necessarily get one "higher". And even though kratom does have opioid action, I don't think there is much respiratory depression from it so there is little chance someone can lethally OD from the leaf...so, just like with most of natures medicinal plants, the spectrum of compounds in the leaf makes for a very well balanced effect....if one were to isolate one of the alkaloids in kratom that is an opioid agonist and only take that every day for months, they would surely run into more WD than if they took the leaf in its whole form for the same length of time.







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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: openmind]
    #21167898 - 01/23/15 04:12 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: SublimeLBC]
    #21169192 - 01/23/15 10:18 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Oh me? I kicked my heroin habit. Shit fucked up my life pretty bad. I dont even know why i ever started that shit.

So ive moved on like a mature adult...  Now i snort fentanyl :feelsgoodman:


Lol, nah im just kidding. I love beautiful brown heroin so much that i dont think anything will ever take its place in my heart. :heart:
Honestly, fentanyl is shit compared to H4. With a daily dependence, literally 10 minutes after you do a bump of fentanyl your high is gone. I would gladly trade the rest of my fentanyl for a gram of brown rock. But unfortunately the fent will have to do for now :shrug:


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #21169242 - 01/23/15 10:33 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I never touched heroin through the many opportunities in life.  Why?  Because I have a very addictive personality, and I know this.  I would probably be dead by now if I ever did.

Also my friend would smoke it daily and vomit all the time, I hate vomiting.


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: RobZombie68]
    #21169259 - 01/23/15 10:38 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Also my friend would smoke it daily and vomit all the time, I hate vomiting.



In all my years i dont think ive ever thrown up from heroin. Ive gotten close plenty times before, but as long as you dose correctly you wont throw up.

Various other opiates on the other hand... uh yeah definitely. Not knowing just how strong oxymorphone was, I did just half a 15mg and one or two bags and I thought i was overdosing forsure. But nope, just got horribly sick. :shrug:


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: RobZombie68]
    #21169263 - 01/23/15 10:39 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Never had the opportunity, but I wouldn't do it if the opportunity arose either. Way too much negative potential to possibly be worth the 'benefits' in my eyes


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: Set]
    #21169264 - 01/23/15 10:40 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Wow, you can actually see my heroin use on my posts-per-day graph.

See where it bottoms out from 2012 to mid-2013?  That's exactly the period of time when I was using.

I stopped caring about everything.







Anybody heard from set recently?  :uhoh:


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: LSDreams]
    #21169275 - 01/23/15 10:42 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

People that get addicted to this shit are almost always deeply unsatisfied with life, lonely and unfulfilled. Ive IV'd meth and heroin semi regularly for a few months. It was easy to quit. I saw three of my friends get claimed by addiction, oddly enough it was the ones who never had their shit together to start with that fell victim.


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: LSDreams]
    #21169287 - 01/23/15 10:46 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Also my friend would smoke it daily and vomit all the time, I hate vomiting.



In all my years i dont think ive ever thrown up from heroin. Ive gotten close plenty times before, but as long as you dose correctly you wont throw up.

Various other opiates on the other hand... uh yeah definitely. Not knowing just how strong oxymorphone was, I did just half a 15mg and one or two bags and I thought i was overdosing forsure. But nope, just got horribly sick. :shrug:




I almost never threw up from the high, but after a few days of doing any strong opiate my stomach pretty much just comes to a standstill, so if I eat, the food has to go somewhere.

I think it is pretty unrealistic to sat that most people won't throw up if you dose correctly.  Throwing up and opiates go hand in hand unless you dose very low, and don't use often.

I never minded puking like that too much.  It was nasty but at least I was high.  The worst is throwing up from dopesickness, because no matter how much you puke you don't feel any better.  It is not like when I get the flu and I throw up then feel ok for a few minutes at least.  I usually just have to force myself to stop dry heaving when I am just too exhausted to keep convulsing.


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21169336 - 01/23/15 10:59 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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I think it is pretty unrealistic to sat that most people won't throw up if you dose correctly.  Throwing up and opiates go hand in hand unless you dose very low, and don't use often.



I disagree with this. When i talk about throwing up from opiates im talking simply from dosing too much. I remember researching adverse effects of heroin before i ever even tried it and was always hesitant because i heard the same that "Throwing up and opiates go hand in hand" and i fucking hate throwing up more than anything.

But then I found out that throwing up is just a reaction of dosing a little too much. Not overdosing by any means, but youll noticeably get sick as fuck before OD.


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: LSDreams]
    #21169352 - 01/23/15 11:04 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Hey, if you have that much self control then more power to you, but you're the exception not the rule IME.  I can not even feel high, and want to take more, but if I've been using for a few days I am very likely to puke sooner or later.  Like I said I sure ain't shitting that often, and the food has to go somewhere.  It will just sit in my stomach until I puke it out so sometimes I will just get it over with if I feel bloated or something.


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21169410 - 01/23/15 11:23 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Ohh.. i know what your exactly talkin about. When you pretty much hit that level tolerance where you actually start to get sick before you can even get high. When that happens to me, rather than just taking more and pushing through the sickness just to feel something.. i hold off until i notice the first signs of WD, then take that same dose and be good again. :thumbup:

And really, vomiting is soo bad for your teeth. If you dont want shitty teeth like alotta older dope heads i know then you need to find an alternative way to cope with that issue.

Im not telling you what to do by any means, i just hate to see ppl with ruined teeth that theyll never get back.. and know exactly how it happened.

Just lookin out for my fellow dope friends :peace: :smile:


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: openmind]
    #21169422 - 01/23/15 11:27 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I took kratom daily for a few months, it doesn't get you high-at least in the amounts I took-but it puts your tolerance to other opiates way up to the point where it's not even worth doing them, which is probably for the best. When I stopped I had a lot of trouble sleeping and had restless sore legs and felt anxious, there were definitely noticeable effects when ceasing use.. I'm guessing nothing compared to actual opiates though, no sickness or anything mostly just trouble sleeping.


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: A Day InThe Life]
    #21169438 - 01/23/15 11:31 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm guessing nothing compared to actual opiates though



Theres no second guessing heavy dopesickness. That shits about as noticeable as it gets.


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